How to Destroy Your Friends with Puff

Cia · Oct 14, 2009

Instead of Giving an insanely long list of instructions, I've got videos! :laugh:

Mike B · Oct 14, 2009

fell into a lot of things but i loved some things you did

AllyKnight · Oct 14, 2009

love playing with vanz lmao.

Maniclysane · Oct 14, 2009

I thought the first 25 seconds were lame special effects.

Your Jiggz is amazing VaNz, get more videos.

Cia · Oct 14, 2009

^ thanks :D

Ally - come back to NY so we can't get more games in. One set = lame (and Snake+Puff=Raaaape)

lolz

Icyo · Oct 14, 2009

Inspirational.

GeneralWoodman · Oct 14, 2009

don't use rollout on mk :>
you seem to face the wrong way when you try to grab someone out of an airdodge in marth matchup :>
nice short hop rests
team matches were awesome
good stuff vanz

M-WUZ-H3R3 · Oct 14, 2009

Were you wasted when you edited these videos perchance?

Dispite the audio desync and random speed, great stuff!

(Textures annoy me by the way.)

Cia · Oct 15, 2009

GeneralWoodman said:
you seem to face the wrong way when you try to grab someone out of an airdodge in marth matchup

I do this A LOT. I'm workin on fixing that, but thanks :D

M - My friend recorded these matches and my guess is that he recorded them at DVD perfect quality. That takes sooo much memory that a laptop often can't handle it and the results is usually this glitchy mess you see here. I told him not to do it, but he's a quality whore and backfired this time. So from now on, I'm recording everything.

Mike B · Oct 15, 2009

GeneralWoodman said:
don't use rollout on mk :>

I Disagree; at least catch them offguard once or twice a match, maybe spam it when theyre at killable percents. Like charge it and wait for a Smash, then release on their cooldown.

san. · Oct 15, 2009

Rollout won't catch anyone offguard. Rollout can only be feasibly used after you knock them down and they don't tech or something.

Cia · Oct 15, 2009

I love charging rollout when someone thinks it's a good idea to charge a smash against puff :laugh:

GeneralWoodman · Oct 15, 2009

using rollout for a stage return never works (unless your opponent has no jiggz experience)
mk can stop rollout with nado...so yeh

Mike B · Oct 15, 2009

I typically grab the ledge then FF jump to Pound for recovery. Makes people stay away from the ledge.

I tried to Rollout ledgegrab once, but most of the time I BOUNCE OFF AND DIE

g-regulate · Oct 16, 2009

rollout is all about mindgames.

start charging up high, and let go early. most people jump to avoid rollout, so they jump right into it.

let go of it late, you can just hit the ledge and reset yourself. mixing up your options and watching how they react helps you make better decisions with it.

rollout when someones in a corner, and just holding the direcion of that corner = a million hitboxes.

changing rollout direction in midair will slow down her lateral movement dramatically, but will keep the same speed and full knockback upon landing. tricks people sometimes.

landing on platforms and changing direction is also a good mix up

you dont always have to hit, just charging it up and rolling to safe places will keep your opponent on his toes, because if he messed up, its a strong KO move when it hits.

the best defense ive seen to defending rollout and facing the other way and just shieldgrabbing after she passes you.

Mike B · Oct 16, 2009

shhh g-reg! we should make a recipient mailing list so nobody else knows our secrets.

But to be semi-helpful, I've never seen somebody try to shieldgrab a Rollout successfully. Usually when I poke their shield at killable percents, they never try to challenge it.

Mister E · Oct 16, 2009

g-regulate said:
rollout is all about mindgames.

start charging up high, and let go early. most people jump to avoid rollout, so they jump right into it.

let go of it late, you can just hit the ledge and reset yourself. mixing up your options and watching how they react helps you make better decisions with it.

rollout when someones in a corner, and just holding the direcion of that corner = a million hitboxes.

changing rollout direction in midair will slow down her lateral movement dramatically, but will keep the same speed and full knockback upon landing. tricks people sometimes.

landing on platforms and changing direction is also a good mix up

you dont always have to hit, just charging it up and rolling to safe places will keep your opponent on his toes, because if he messed up, its a strong KO move when it hits.

the best defense ive seen to defending rollout and facing the other way and just shieldgrabbing after she passes you.

Don't forget Pivoted Rollouts are really hard to predict since it looks like Jiggs is going to rollout the opposite way the first 0,5 seconds and may catch the enemy of guard

Glick · Oct 17, 2009

I love rollout recovery. It's fun as hell but it's not worth much and smart players will start to edgehog you LOL

The only people who have ever really caught me on that was rykoshet a few times and vanz does it to me all the time LOL

Vanz is a jiggz player though.

Lots of people are afraid to edgehog me though because sometimes I hit them as they are going for the edgehog. It's a little mindgame I have.

Mister E · Oct 17, 2009

But if you hit them with it... you'll die... so isn't it worth it?

Rykoshet · Oct 18, 2009

I treat rollout recovery the same way I treat quick draw recovery, wait it out and when theyre at a point where they can either hit you while youre standing or below, hug the ledge, either the jiggs goes over you and you're safe from being hit completely or they go lower and get hogged (slight difference being if I see an ike go below a certain point I just get ready to dtilt spike them but sometimes it's just easier to hog them). It's the same concept as doing mostly retreating pivot grabs against wario, the worst situation is that nothing bad happens and the best situation is you take a life for it.

M-WUZ-H3R3 · Oct 18, 2009

Rollout's ONLY uses:

-During a laggy, charged smash attack.
-Horrizontal recovery.
-Edge huging.
-Edge shenanigans.
-Tech chasing on a moment's notice.
-When an opponent helplessly falls above the stage.
-When you feel like being a spammy **** online.

san. · Oct 18, 2009

Shields **** rollout so bad, simply standing there will be enough for rollout to come towards you so you can shield grab it or whatever. I only use it to mess with people, especially if they don't even know how to stop it. I aim it just above them so if they jump, they'll be in range of it, and if they stand still, it knicks the top of the other person's shield.

M-WUZ-H3R3 · Oct 19, 2009

san3711 said:
Shields **** rollout so bad, simply standing there will be enough for rollout to come towards you so you can shield grab it or whatever. I only use it to mess with people, especially if they don't even know how to stop it. I aim it just above them so if they jump, they'll be in range of it, and if they stand still, it knicks the top of the other person's shield.

My friend's Ganon recently spiked me out of my rollout offstage when I was recovering.

Made me cry :cry:

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