how does someone enjoy parties/clubs/raves straight edge?

[Mini Mic]

Lie. Racist, sexist sentence fragment. Complete loss of touch with reality.

The way I see it you're either an idiot for what you believe or an ******* for being a troll.

 

[Keblerelf]

Ruby has it wrong. Women are only "biologically inferior" when they are compared to men.

It's only when you try to compare the two genders with each other that you come to this conclusion. That's like saying your leg is 'biologically inferior' for holding things compared to your hand. Men and women are different, but that doesn't mean they aren't equal in value.

I like to use an RPG analogy. In your party, you have different characters each with their different role. The best option to go through the game is to cater to those roles and specialize so you can work as a team. Would you invest all your attribute points for your healer into attack and have him carry a sword around? That'd be ********. Instead, you'd have him stick to what he's good at--healing. Is your cleric "inferior" to your other members because he can't kill your enemies? No, he's just as necessary for you because without him, you wouldn't be able to get through the game.

That's what's wrong with feminism today. Feminists are trying to compare women to men and have them do the same jobs and hold the same position as men do. Instead of cooperation, they are encouraging competition. They don't understand that just because they don't have all the same rights as men do, that doesn't mean they are of any less value. Even if the ONLY thing women could do was give birth and men did EVERYTHING else, including domestic jobs, they would STILL be essential to society because we wouldn't be able to continue the human race without them.

Feminism is teaching girls that they can have it all. They can be a CEO, mother, and a wife combined no sweat. These women are only seeing the benefits of being in a leadership role. They don't realize that being in charge means assuming responsibility for the actions under their authority. They have to be willing to take the blame for what goes wrong. Being in charge also means that they are going to be constantly scrutinized for competence. Not only that, people in charge have to be willing to SACRIFICE THEIR LIVES for the safety of those under them. Do you honestly think women would be able to respond as these men did if they were in charge? They don't teach girls to assume any sort of responsibility. It's always the man's fault if something goes wrong. Ask a girl what it means to be a gentleman and she'll say something along the line of how he should pay for her and care for her. Then, ask her what it means to be a lady. I guarantee you almost no one will tell you how a girl is supposed to treat a guy. Feminists think that they deserve special treatment simply because of their gender.

Feminism is prioritizing people's self esteems over the truth. In this society, people are demonized for telling a person that s/he needs to lose weight. Schools lower their academic standards so students don't feel so bad about themselves. To a feminist, feeling good about herself triumphs hearing what she needs to know, even if it will benefit her. How many times have you guys said something to a girl in order to help her out, only to be responded by a phrase like "you're being so rude!", "that's not nice!", or "you're soo mean, you *******!".

It's not hard to see how this affects social interactions. Guys are taught that women are on a higher social level than they are. Suddenly, we have to watch what we say in order to not offend anyone. This leads to guys becoming extremely neurotic because they’re always thinking about how the other person will take our opinions. Girls are free to ridicule a guy by calling him a weirdo/douche/nerd/virgin but HEAVEN FORBID if a guy defends himself and calls her a *****. Without guys realizing that they are supposed to lead women, they become passive in their relationships. They lose their authority over their spouse/girlfriend. Since female attraction towards a man is based on his authority over her, she becomes emotionally unsatisfied and the guy doesn’t get his sexual needs met as a result of it too. These dysfunctional families pass on this behavior to their children and it is further propagated in future generations.

You don’t even need to see the connection to realize that feminism is complete BS. Whenever someone tries to criticise feminism, they are labeled as misogynists or sexist, as shown in this very thread. No one is allowed to dig deeper to find out about the truth. If the feminist movement was true, then feminists wouldn’t be afraid to stand up to public scrutiny. Why attack others for their questions or criticisms if what they are saying is true?

Hopefully I’ve given some people a better idea of how bad feminism is. This discussion shouldn’t be off topic because it deals with every shy/awkward/nerdy guy issues with socializing with others. If there’s anything else you guys want to talk about, comment and I’ll try to address it to the best of my ability. Otherwise, you can read the ebook I linked earlier.

 

[Falconv1.0]

It's not hard to see how this affects social interactions. Guys are taught that women are on a higher social level than they are. Suddenly, we have to watch what we say in order to not offend anyone. This leads to guys becoming extremely neurotic because they’re always thinking about how the other person will take our opinions. Girls are free to ridicule a guy by calling him a weirdo/douche/nerd/virgin but HEAVEN FORBID if a guy defends himself and calls her a *****.

You realize this stems more from this generation just being full of ****ies right? Also, yeah, men should expect to probably get more flak if he speaks up, and if he's a man, he can ****ing take it.

Also, keep going, you've yet to cover racism and war on drugs and gay people and stuff.

BTW you come off as incredibly insecure and sexist, and this is coming from someone who does believe America is becoming ****ified as hell.

 

[Keblerelf]

You realize this stems more from this generation just being full of ****ies right? Also, yeah, men should expect to probably get more flak if he speaks up, and if he's a man, he can ****ing take it.

Also, keep going, you've yet to cover racism and war on drugs and gay people and stuff.

BTW you come off as incredibly insecure and sexist, and this is coming from someone who does believe America is becoming ****ified as hell.

I'm not going to respond to someone who is as demanding as you are. Show me how I'm being insecure and sexist or dont bother replying to my posts. You sound like a typical emasculated male.

 

[Falconv1.0]

I'm emasculated because I feel that your statement that feminism the root of ALL social problems is hyperbolic? You know I pissed off plenty of girls like a total ****ing troll for the lulz in highschool and was known for not being so goddamn scared of what little things they might say cuz I'm weeeiiird right?

Course, this is coming from the guy claiming women are ruining everything, yeah, I'm the one who is emasculated. Obviously there are extremes to feminisms that are stupid and once again, I do agree parts of our society are being ****ified, but you sir are the one who seems just plain sexist. If a woman can compete with a man, then it's fine and they ****ing should, deal with it.

 

[Pluvia]

OP how do you attempt to attract girls?

 

[Mini Mic]

By telling them they are inferior before Kebleref comes along to congratulate him for putting them in their place.

 

[Pluvia]

Oh I just skimmed through the thread, I just wanted to know how you pick up girls if you don't go out to socialise.

 

[Mini Mic]

I imagine his solution involves chloroform, a rag, and serious jail time.

Keb: you wouldn't happen to be related to Jesiah by any chance would you?

 

[Luigitoilet]

This thread is the worst.

 

[Mini Mic]

It really is.

 

[Kewkky]

How about people start throwing sources around? All this conversation could've been avoided by just linking respectable websites that say what you're arguing is the truth. Where's the proof that women are inferior? Where's the proof that they aren't? What about that of hispanics and whatever other ethnicity was mentioned being superior? What about a clear definition for Feminism? To me this all looks like a bunch of stereotypical Amish talking about computers.

Looking at pretty much everyone here.

 

[Pink Reaper]

ThePinkReaper 11:59 pm
http://www.smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=326133
i was totally gonna reply to this topic
to try and help the OP
then i saw it was Rubyiris
and was like "**** that"

Strong Bad 11:59 pm
loooooooooooool
when he started calling women objectively inferior to men i stopped reading

ThePinkReaper 12:05 am
idk, i'd say being born female is definitely inferior to being born male
in the same way being born not white is inferior to being born white

Edit: No seriously, I have like, legit good advice for people who are in the OP situation. Just not for Rubyiris

 

[theeboredone]

How about people start throwing sources around? All this conversation could've been avoided by just linking respectable websites that say what you're arguing is the truth. Where's the proof that women are inferior? Where's the proof that they aren't? What about that of hispanics and whatever other ethnicity was mentioned being superior? What about a clear definition for Feminism?

This isn't the debate hall. Furthermore, if one person throws "x" source, then another person can reply back with "y" source. Then you have to throw more sources, and debate about the validity of each one. That in itself can become subjective, which this thread, or any thread is.

Sources wouldn't do anything in regards to, as you put it, "conversation would've been avoided". It would just incite more. As far as defining "feminism" goes, like I said...not the debate hall, and each person holds a different belief to the word. Some more extremist than others.

I will agree with Keble on one thing. Because women are now getting more into the work force, they are doing their best to advance their careers, which in turn delays marriages. We are seeing a lot more single women pop up in their 30s. Although to counter that, you can say that a woman with status and power can attract a man if he respects her for who she is. But that also means, men have to accept possibly being "inferior" in almost all aspects minus physical strength. Lesser pay, lesser responsibilities, and possibly even doing what a lot of men don't think about, and that's being a stay at home dad.

I do like to joke with women that why do I have to pay for dinner if we're considered "equal"? A woman who goes Dutch has my heart lol.

And on another note, Islamic feminism is complete opposite of what Keble described to a certain extent. Everything from how a woman should dress to extremists preferring the old values of staying at home and being a good wife.

 

[Luigitoilet]

hmmm Just kinda reiterating a point here but

there are over 25 different variations or "sects" of feminism that often come from very different ideologies/backgrounds and have different beliefs. many feminists hate each other because of these sub-divided differences in the "culture" of feminism. Basing a thesis on just "feminism" is like basing a thesis on "socialism is bad because look at Nazi Germany!" without specifying and delineating the philosophies of national socialism and totalitarianism. It's just kinda meaningless flame-fanning words without such elaborations.

then everybody else is just kinda yelling and swearing at you guys so idk it's just an annoying thread in general just thought i'd say that stuff up there

 

[Teran]

This thread is about being socially inept, not feminism...

Usually I would have been inclined not to poke my nose in to sway the discussion, but this discussion is so mind numbingly idiotic and farcical that I think if it continues the whole site will implode and be reincarnated as Ayatollah Khomeini.

 

[Keblerelf]

Ruby has it wrong. Women are only "biologically inferior" when they are compared to men.

It's only when you try to compare the two genders with each other that you come to this conclusion. That's like saying your leg is 'biologically inferior' for holding things compared to your hand. Men and women are different, but that doesn't mean they aren't equal in value.

Do guys just not read when you respond to threads?

 

[Mic_128]

Men and women are different, but that doesn't mean they aren't equal in value.

Do guys just not read when you respond to threads?

And yet

Feminists are trying to compare women to men and have them do the same jobs and hold the same position as men do. Instead of cooperation, they are encouraging competition. They don't understand that just because they don't have all the same rights as men do, that doesn't mean they are of any less value. Even if the ONLY thing women could do was give birth and men did EVERYTHING else, including domestic jobs, they would STILL be essential to society because we wouldn't be able to continue the human race without them.

So just because they're valuable, it doesn't mean they deserve the same rights. Sounds like an argument used to defend slavery to me. Yes that slave is valuable! I spent $$$ on him! He does my hard labour and is essential to society! Who else would do all the heavy lifting and other untasteful jobs?

That of course, doesn't mean they deserve the same rights as non-slaves.

 

[Rubyiris]

I don't try to attract girls specifically. A. I'm looking for friends/connections mainly.

B. I prefer men, or trans in most situations because being pansexual, personality, and relatability are more important to me than sexual attraction.

Sent from my LG-VM670 using Tapatalk 2

 

[Lore]

Ooooook this has gone on enough; it's gonna get much worse soon. I'm locking up.

 

[Azua]

Ruby has it wrong. Women are only "biologically inferior" when they are compared to men.

It's only when you try to compare the two genders with each other that you come to this conclusion. That's like saying your leg is 'biologically inferior' for holding things compared to your hand.

that doesn't even make sense

Men and women are different, but that doesn't mean they aren't equal in value.

ok

I like to use an RPG analogy. In your party, you have different characters each with their different role. The best option to go through the game is to cater to those roles and specialize so you can work as a team. Would you invest all your attribute points for your healer into attack and have him carry a sword around? That'd be ********. Instead, you'd have him stick to what he's good at--healing. Is your cleric "inferior" to your other members because he can't kill your enemies? No, he's just as necessary for you because without him, you wouldn't be able to get through the game.

Generally you should have people stick to what they're actually good at to be useful in normal situations. That has nothing to do with gender. Men and women can excel in things outside of their gender stereotype.

Also, Clerics/Priests are inferior as they die in two hits because they wear **** for armor.

That's what's wrong with feminism today. Feminists are trying to compare women to men and have them do the same jobs and hold the same position as men do.

I'm beginning to be frightened that this bothers you.

Instead of cooperation, they are encouraging competition.

Life is about competition and cooperation. I believe at this point I am deliberately trying to ignore what you're saying because it's so ridiculous.

They don't understand that just because they don't have all the same rights as men do, that doesn't mean they are of any less value.

Yup. That is exactly what I was doing. I was deliberately convincing myself that you were not a blithering idiot and I was just mistaken, however you have just totally proved me wrong (Must be my feeble female brain herp derp) so here we go.

Even if the ONLY thing women could do was give birth and men did EVERYTHING else, including domestic jobs, they would STILL be essential to society because we wouldn't be able to continue the human race without them.

Yes, let's degrade half the population down to just baby making machines. This "I'm not sexist look I'm saying good things about women!" is so transparent it's shameful.

Feminism is teaching girls that they can have it all. They can be a CEO, mother, and a wife combined no sweat.

Because they can, you thick-headed ****. If they so choose, they can be whatever the **** they want. Just like men. Being a mother, having a good job, and being a good wife is hard but I currently work with two women (one who owns the company) that have been quite successful in those things. I have no idea what you're even getting at it's so ridiculous. It's actually quite hard for me to come up with replies right now.

These women are only seeing the benefits of being in a leadership role. They don't realize that being in charge means assuming responsibility for the actions under their authority. They have to be willing to take the blame for what goes wrong. Being in charge also means that they are going to be constantly scrutinized for competence. Not only that, people in charge have to be willing to SACRIFICE THEIR LIVES for the safety of those under them.

Yes, that's generally what being in charged means. I'm glad you're at least informed of that. Not sure what this has to do with gender.

Do you honestly think women would be able to respond as these men did if they were in charge? They don't teach girls to assume any sort of responsibility.

Uh, they absolutely do. What about the guy in that story, the one that left his girlfriend and the child in the theater to cower outside? No mention of that? I guess feminism is to blame for his inability to respond in a disaster situation as well. OR MAYBE IT WAS BECAUSE A LUNATIC SHOT UP A ****ING THEATER AND PEOPLE HAD NO IDEA WHAT WAS GOING ON. Everyone reacts differently. Male or female.

It's always the man's fault if something goes wrong.

Uhhh no

Ask a girl what it means to be a gentleman and she'll say something along the line of how he should pay for her and care for her.

again, no

Then, ask her what it means to be a lady. I guarantee you almost no one will tell you how a girl is supposed to treat a guy. Feminists think that they deserve special treatment simply because of their gender.

aaaand nope. I know exactly how to treat a man (tailored to his personality, even) and I absolutely do not expect special treatment because I have a pair of ****. Your generalizations are quite frightening, truth be told.

Feminism is prioritizing people's self esteems over the truth.

That isn't just feminism. That's what's wrong with a lot youth, the "Everyone wins and everyone can do everything" attitude. That's aimed at both boys and girls and sets them up for disaster once they enter the real world.

In this society, people are demonized for telling a person that s/he needs to lose weight.

A lot of people in the world need to lose weight. Again, gender doesn't matter with this one, a lot of overweight people get pissy when told that they need to lose weight.

Schools lower their academic standards so students don't feel so bad about themselves.

Again, this is a problem across the board and not related to genders at all.

To a feminist, feeling good about herself triumphs hearing what she needs to know, even if it will benefit her.

Jesus christ have you ever even spoken to a real feminist

How many times have you guys said something to a girl in order to help her out, only to be responded by a phrase like "you're being so rude!", "that's not nice!", or "you're soo mean, you *******!".

Well gee, it sounds like you're talking to teenagers here. Which are idiots regardless of gender. Or you're just a ****. I could believe both here, really. If you trying to help someone goes off as well as you trying to explain your ... I don't even know how to describe the issues and stereotypes you cling to about gender roles. It just hurts my brain.

It's not hard to see how this affects social interactions. Guys are taught that women are on a higher social level than they are.

No they aren't. Whoever is teaching you this **** is an idiot.

Suddenly, we have to watch what we say in order to not offend anyone.

That goes with anyone and so far you've failed miserably

This leads to guys becoming extremely neurotic because they’re always thinking about how the other person will take our opinions.

I pretty much say whatever I like so long as I'm not being unneccessarily vulgar/etc or blasphemous. Most people get offended if you say a sideways comment about religion rather than anything else. Let's take down these religious people that think they're better than everyone else!

Girls are free to ridicule a guy by calling him a weirdo/douche/nerd/virgin but HEAVEN FORBID if a guy defends himself and calls her a *****.

Okay none of those are gender specific insults. Not to mention those kind of insults stop in junior high usually, and if they're still using those later on in life as actual insults, you really don't need to be offended because they appear to have other issues.

Also if anyone just constantly rags on you they're probably a **** anyway. Fire back if you don't like it, that's what I do. Girl or not.

Without guys realizing that they are supposed to lead women, they become passive in their relationships.

Someone tries to 'lead' me and I will be leading them out the door with my foot up their arse.

They lose their authority over their spouse/girlfriend. Since female attraction towards a man is based on his authority over her, she becomes emotionally unsatisfied and the guy doesn’t get his sexual needs met as a result of it too. These dysfunctional families pass on this behavior to their children and it is further propagated in future generations.

You have got to be kidding me. Did your parents raise you in the farking dark ages?

You don’t even need to see the connection to realize that feminism is complete BS. Whenever someone tries to criticise feminism, they are labeled as misogynists or sexist, as shown in this very thread.

I'm not labeling you anything aside from a disillusioned dolt. It is absolutely amazing the kind of crap you're writing here. Do you ever go outside? Have you ever even had a girlfriend? Are you even out of highschool?

No one is allowed to dig deeper to find out about the truth. If the feminist movement was true, then feminists wouldn’t be afraid to stand up to public scrutiny.

They do. Frequently. Personally I can't stand feminazis, but to treat them like they're some sort of conspiracy is hilarious at best.

Why attack others for their questions or criticisms if what they are saying is true?

Because you can attack anyone for saying anything, really, and in order for a cause to get more attention there must be controversy. There must be drama. It must be kept in the spotlight for as long as everyone is willing to pay attention. This is not limited to feminists.

Hopefully I’ve given some people a better idea of how bad feminism is.

No, the only thing you've shown is your complete detatchment of reality. Which is great I guess, I hope you're happy there.

This discussion shouldn’t be off topic because it deals with every shy/awkward/nerdy guy issues with socializing with others.

Again with the gender specifics. Nearly zero of the things you listed were actually gender specific. Have you ever even spoken to a girl? And I mean a girl, not a swag-whoring, yolo howling teenage ****.






I hope you are not actually a female, because you would be the worst kind of female.


Sincerely, an independent female who works in a male dominated tech field and also happens to be a ****.