Help me be emo!

[[TSON]]

Self damage is probably the hardest thing to find right now. The Roy project, the Pichu project, Brawl-, and many PSAs to come could put this to full use. When this was in the other PSA threads, the topic just died out. I will be sure not to let that happen. In order for the Pichu project to be Pichu at all, I will need to find the offset for self damage. So please, anyone with a Gecko, help us out, anyone who knows their way around PSA, help us out, we could really use it.

Gogogo!

 

[grim mouser]

Best bet is probably to look at Ike's neutral B.

 

[Alphatron]

Best bet is probably to look at Ike's neutral B.

I'd assumed that this has already been done and hasn't really led anywhere.

Ike isn't the only one who hurts himself btw. Kirby, Dedede, Game and Watch, and Wario do too.

 

[grim mouser]

Yeah, I forgot to note that it's an obvious first step.

And how did I forget those other characters... >.<

 

[[TSON]]

As I did.

http://www.smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=246651&page=21

EDIT: Also you didn't say diddy :V

 

[Kei_Takaro]

Does anyone haz Phantom Wings in mah Boards?

 

[MaRRoK]

I has idea!
spawn a sticky-bomb, make it invisible, throw it upward with like 0 or 0.0000001 velocity, superarmor. in 5 seconds there should be an explosion from the invisible goobomb, and ull take the % with no flinch or any other kind of effect.
yay! i fixeded a problem!

orrrr u can keep doin wat ur doin.

 

[[TSON]]

That would work, if you wanted it to do damage in a multiple of however much damage it does, and if the attack was long enough to wait for the gooey bomb to explode. :v

 

[MaRRoK]

actually you can have an bit variable for the throwing of the goo bomb. if bit is set, superarmor. put that on like everysubaction...ok not so realisic.
besides it would blow up ajacent enemies too.

i think the only person it can work for is roy

 

[[TSON]]

Yeah. For someone like Pichu that'd be strange.

 

[mofo_]

can you make an explosion like from a bob-omb and then just give yourself super armor?

 

[[TSON]]

Again, the attack would need a hitbox if it was in the air, and the bobomb would hurt you too much, and the explosion would also hurt foes.

 

[Zee-V70]

Is there anything that damages only the user that works almost instantly?

...What about a flower? Would it be possible to change it so that the flower does damage at a quicker rate but falls off like a second afterwards or something?

Someone should look into G&W's Judgment and Diddy's "jammed" firing thing.

 

[mofo_]

what i meant was an explosion that'd hurt everyone...not necessarily from a bob-omb
idk w/e i remember untouch or somebody tried doing this before

 

[Oni K4ge]

Is there anything that damages only the user that works almost instantly?

...What about a flower? Would it be possible to change it so that the flower does damage at a quicker rate but falls off like a second afterwards or something?

Someone should look into G&W's Judgment and Diddy's "jammed" firing thing.

Seconded. A flower should do this nicely.

 

[[TSON]]

There's no way to make them invisible, put them on yourself, or tell them when to get off. >_>

 

[Grim Tuesday]

This is also needed for the Yoshimitsu Project, except there would be no explosion...

 

[Untouch]

Game and Watch uses a variable which can be changed but not applied to other moves.

 

[[TSON]]

What is that variable? I have a hunch but I need to know in order to chase it

 

[leafgreen386]

Has anyone tried simply adding to the variable that controls your percent?

 

[[TSON]]

That's an IC variable, which causes a BEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEP if you edit it in any way.

 

[Untouch]

What is that variable? I have a hunch but I need to know in order to chase it

IC 4 I think.

Changing it does nothing only in the >B subactions

 

[[TSON]]

And where is IC[4] called?

 

[Untouch]

The first side B (when GAW gets a 1).

 

[[TSON]]

Mmkay, I'll take a look at it.

 

[MaRRoK]

if some1 can figure out how to make it invisble, thats not a bad idea.
superarmor, generate lipstick, make invis, throw at like no velocity (it hits you but ur superarmored so ull get a flower with no flinch), grab item, consume item.
all that superfast would be good. and it would be very handy because you can do it multipal times and so you can rate the pain in multipals of flowerhits.

however, ud still have that stupid looking flower sticking out of ur head and take damage gradually. that would pose an even bigger problem when you stack damage cuz the flower will just get bigger.

hmmm...

 

[pokelover980]

if some1 can figure out how to make it invisble, thats not a bad idea.
superarmor, generate lipstick, make invis, throw at like no velocity (it hits you but ur superarmored so ull get a flower with no flinch), grab item, consume item.
all that superfast would be good. and it would be very handy because you can do it multipal times and so you can rate the pain in multipals of flowerhits.

however, ud still have that stupid looking flower sticking out of ur head and take damage gradually. that would pose an even bigger problem when you stack damage cuz the flower will just get bigger.

hmmm...

I know how to make items invisible.
EDIT: 1F090100 is what you need to type in in the event thing it get it, and set Parameter 0 to Boolean False

 

[[TSON]]

You can't hit yourself with an item you throw.... >_>

 

[JoeGrandma]

Well, you could always give yourself Super Armor, and throw an invisible bomb at the ground.

Actually, I could probably think of 13289032489 ways that wouldn't work.

 

[[TSON]]

Let's just work out how the game does it and quit making up things that have a kajillion flaws kthx.

 

[pokelover980]

Let's just work out how the game does it and quit making up things that have a kajillion flaws kthx.

Have you tried 14070A00 yet? It's in the "Other" section of Ike's Neutral B, so it may have been overlooked. For what you have to fill in for the parameters you'll have to look at Ike's .pac, there's a lot of parameters >.<

 

[[TSON]]

That's ambient wind.

 

[pokelover980]

That's ambient wind.

Oh. Lets see then... I'd say 06030100 but I'm positive that isn't it.

 

[[TSON]]

...We now know that self-damage is caused by floating points. However, we do not know if this floating point (which would be all zeros) exists in all attacks.

Hint hint wink wink nudge nudge.

 

[NeonTogepi]

Keep posting useless things, bumping this thread. Eventually Phantom Wings will see it and post.

 

[[TSON]]

Shameless bump

 

[phantomphungus]

Good job, Silence! *jumps on bandwagon* wait... when WAS the last time phantom was even active???

 

[pokelover980]

Good job, Silence! *jumps on bandwagon* wait... when WAS the last time phantom was even active???

Yesterday :U

Or maybe even today :U

 

[[TSON]]

It was yesterday in my thread about projectile floating points

 

[Phantom Wings]

"Don't worry, be emo"

1E030100 Add Damage

parameter 1-Scalar: Damage to Add.

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