Harddrives

[autobzooty]

I've gotta think that nintendo is going to add support for this soon, with wii ware on the way and the problem of the wii's limited memory becoming more and more mainstream. the question is when?

The more i think about it, the more i feel like they might bring out harddrive support for brawl. nothing would be a better fit because nothing has more replay value than super smash bros. think about it, we could get:

-New character updates (hope for the megaman/geno/whatever fans)
-New SSE levels
-New stages
-New event matches
-Increased AI
-New music
-New items

There would also be tons more storage for custom levels, screenshots, and replays, not to mention the downloadable content that nintendo is promising. (honestly, how are they planning to make downloadable custom stages work? they DID say we can save those to SD cards, right?)

Basically, if any of us have a gripe about Brawl, all we'd have to do would be let nintendo know that our gripe exists, and they can patch it. Simple as that, right? Need a character to be balanced? Nintendo can make minor tweaks to buff and nerf characters.

It would make it less of a tragedy if brawl had some game breaking glitch or something, and it would give us all a reason to stick around that much longer. plus nintendo needs to release a storage solution anyways. two birds with one stone, yeah?

 

[Tinkerer]

It'd be cool, but not really needed. Super Smash Bros. Brawl will probably have huge replayability already, and I doubt we'll get bored very soon. But it's still possible, as about everything can be included in the Smash Service.

 

[Darkurai]

It's possible, since downloadable content has been confirmed for Guitar Hero III.

 

[Sp1yd3r]

possibility in the air

 

[matthewdw94*]

It's possible, since downloadable content has been confirmed for Guitar Hero III.

WHAT, WHEN WHERE?!?!

 

[autobzooty]

WHAT, WHEN WHERE?!?!

Not on Wii, but it's always been there for 360 and PS3.

 

[Tobi-]

I don't understand why the Wii can't handle downloadable content. The internal hard drive has 512 MB. If you were to go online with wi-fi from the game, then it should be able to easily download 10mb-20mb of updates/content at least. You have to download everything from Wii Shop channel, so why not Wii games either?

Maybe the wii just doesn't support in-game downloading.

 

[autobzooty]

The Wii could do it no sweat, the problem is the memory. I don't know how much space a few guitar hero songs would take up, but I'm pretty sure that it'd be too much for wii after very long.

A demo of a wii game (smash bros. in particular) would be more than the entirety of the wii's internal memory. Demos of xbox 360 games are often times a gig or more, and while the wii isn't the same graphically speaking, it'd still be a lot.

As a side note, I believe activision said somewhere that if nintendo released a storage solution, they could update the game to support downloadable content.

 

[Otori Warrior]

I agree with the original poster. A lot of Wii fans predicted that the lack of a hard drive would cause the Wii some problems. I hope that Nintendo is able to see their error and correct the problem. I really hope Nintendo patches the Wii to allow the use of external hard drives. I think people would much rather buy a USB hard drive than have to purchase SD card(s).

It is getting to the point where I think the lack of storage maybe costing Nintendo money through loss of VC purchases.

On another note: Brawl seems like it would be a great game to offer additional content for a small fee. I would gladly pay $5-10 for some new characters/items/professionally designed stages/ect. For a game that is likely to be played for the whole lifespan of the console (maybe longer) it makes sense to offer these expansions for a small fee. I doubt there would be many people who wouldn't want the additional content.

 

[Darkurai]

Not on Wii, but it's always been there for 360 and PS3.

Yes on Wii. Don't you listen to Show Me Your News!?

 

[Gerudo Warrior]

i think an SD card will cover your brawling stuff

 

[NDUDE]

-New character updates (hope for the megaman/geno/whatever fans) - very unfair for those who can't go online.
-New SSE levels - would alter the actual story of the game
-New stages - we're getting those
-New event matches - would be sweet
-Increased AI - let's just hope they get it right the first time...
-New music - would be sweet
-New items - would be sweet

Let's see. Some songs, some event matches, and some items. A song should NOT take up a lot of space, and neither should an item. Event Matches also wouldn't take up too much space (full SNES games can take up like 30-some blocks...a single event match shouldn't take up too much). An SD card with like 15k blocks (2GB) would be way more than enough for downloadable content.

 

[Pink Reaper]

Nintendo has(multiple times) stated that they do not plan to release an external hard drive for the Wii as they don't feel it necessary. They have been quoted as saying that you should simply delete what you don't use and re-download it if you want it back. See here for a proof.

 

[KingKraken]

No thanks.

 

[Otori Warrior]

Nintendo has(multiple times) stated that they do not plan to release an external hard drive for the Wii as they don't feel it necessary. They have been quoted as saying that you should simply delete what you don't use and re-download it if you want it back. See here for a proof.

This is exactly the problem though. If you have to delete files and re-load them later when you want to play them, then there is definitely a need for a larger storage device. SD cards can do the job, but I really don't want to have to keep track of several different SD cards. Nintendo doesn't have to release an external hard drive, just do an update that allows people to connect a USB HD. Until this happens Wii owners will continue to be denied additional down loadable content.

IGN editor Matt Casamassina has already made this argument. Read this if you are interested Linky

 

[Pink Reaper]

This is exactly the problem though. If you have to delete files and re-load them later when you want to play them, then there is definitely a need for a larger storage device. SD cards can do the job, but I really don't want to have to keep track of several different SD cards. Nintendo doesn't have to release an external hard drive, just do an update that allows people to connect a USB HD. Until this happens Wii owners will continue to be denied additional down loadable content.

IGN editor Matt Casamassina has already made this argument. Read this if you are interested Linky

Despite how true this is, it doesn't change the fact that this is Nintendo we're talking about. You know, the same company that refuses to get rid of friends codes despite how often they are complained about. The company that actually DOWNGRADED their photo channel so you couldn't listen to your own MP3's. The same company that despite making some of the greatest games of all time, seems to have no idea what they are doing when it comes to their actual consoles. Despite the fact that we NEED external hard drives, Nintendo won't release one, and they definitely wont allow other companies to release one for the Wii. This is partially due to the fact that Nintendo is worried about gamers downloading direct to hard drive and just sharing all their downloads.

 

[autobzooty]

-New SSE levels - would alter the actual story of the game
-New stages - we're getting those

I mean just new levels they can tack on to the end of the existing story, and as far as stages go, I don't mean stages that users made with the level editor. Any shmuck can make those. I mean a new stage that has things that won't be in the level editor. Stages with weird stuff like norfair and mario kart.

Yes on Wii. Don't you listen to Show Me Your News!?

I did once, but I thought it was really dreadful. I didn't make it to the end.

Nintendo has(multiple times) stated that they do not plan to release an external hard drive for the Wii as they don't feel it necessary. They have been quoted as saying that you should simply delete what you don't use and re-download it if you want it back. See here for a proof.

I know that's what they SAID, but they also lied about releasing the DS lite about a week before it actually launched. They said they had no plans for a remodeled DS any time soon.

And anyways, I don't need Nintendo to make one, I just want them to patch my wii so that i can use them.

 

[autobzooty]

This is partially due to the fact that Nintendo is worried about gamers downloading direct to hard drive and just sharing all their downloads.

Xbox does! Doo doo doo doo doo doo doo doo

What NintenDON'T! Doo doo doo doo doo doo

 

[Otori Warrior]

Despite how true this is, it doesn't change the fact that this is Nintendo we're talking about. You know, the same company that refuses to get rid of friends codes despite how often they are complained about. The company that actually DOWNGRADED their photo channel so you couldn't listen to your own MP3's. The same company that despite making some of the greatest games of all time, seems to have no idea what they are doing when it comes to their actual consoles. Despite the fact that we NEED external hard drives, Nintendo won't release one, and they definitely wont allow other companies to release one for the Wii. This is partially due to the fact that Nintendo is worried about gamers downloading direct to hard drive and just sharing all their downloads.

I completely agree with you. Nintendo's fear often overwhelms their judgment. I just hope that Nintendo will see the success being had by the 360 and realize that having a HD on your console doesn't mean everyone is going to start pirating software. I'll cross my fingers but you are right, I definitely wouldn't hold my breath.

 

[autobzooty]

I completely agree with you. Nintendo's fear often overwhelms their judgment. I just hope that Nintendo will see the success being had by the 360 and realize that having a HD on your console doesn't mean everyone is going to start pirating software. I'll cross my fingers but you are right, I definitely wouldn't hold my breath.

I don't doubt that they'll do it eventually, it's becoming such a huge issue.

Currently, you can't download all of the N64 games available for download. There just isn't enough room.

Obviously, to hardcore gamers who download a lot of stuff, it's a problem. My guess is, though, nintendo is going to wait until even the casuals are running out of room before they take any action.

and my wii is NOT a refrigerator, dammit.

 

[Tobi-]

I completely agree with you. Nintendo's fear often overwhelms their judgment. I just hope that Nintendo will see the success being had by the 360 and realize that having a HD on your console doesn't mean everyone is going to start pirating software. I'll cross my fingers but you are right, I definitely wouldn't hold my breath.

That's the biggest issue I think nintendo has. Which is pirating. You'll never see someone playing PS1,xbox emulation on Gamecube/Nintendo Wii, Yet on Ps2/xbox I've seen many people mod it to where they could play gamecube games on Xbox. They took blank mini-dvd's, and burned the iso.

Just take a look at PSP. PSP pretty much got utterly destroyed by HEAVY pirating. This is why companies are afraid to make major games for the psp. It will nearly automatically get pirated, and downloaded.

 

[Mic_128]

The Wii topic in the lighthouse would be the best place to discus this, and there's been nothing hinted at about any use of Harddrives for Brawl.

Also Guitar Hero 3 DLoadable content isn't available for Wii, but they haven't ruled it out.