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Yeah, I feel myself switching from 25/0 grenade gunner to 0/0 charge shot gunner. Super Missiles are ~ -4 on shield point blank, so you know you're pretty safe if they can't hit you with an attack in time or power shield. With uair buffed, gunner doesn't need reliable smashes as much.
I saw it. I think you got this next time. I was wondering why you didn't use more of gunner's normals given the chance? Did you just want to keep him away?
I didn't think Gunner would do too good up close and keeping him away was working pretty good so I kept doing it. Gonna use Nair a bit more against people up close. Need to find more ways to survive up close situations in general.
Against villager is a bit weird since his dair is so good. I like to use utilt if I really have to challenge a move (they should be approaching from above).
Thing is, I'm more comfortable weaving in with small Gunner. Default is much slower so it was hard for me to run in at times to capitalize on things. I think default is at it's best walling people out while smaller gunners can afford to be more aggressive. I still need to get used to default size, been with small for so long lol. I'll try to weave in if I catch them with Fair a bit closer to default Gunner.
Yeah, I know what you mean. Great effort on your part nonetheless
I don't have an exact list of characters, but on fast-falling / heavy characters, in the 25-35% range you can f-throw into fully charged charge shot. Some characters you can jab-reset using an uncharged charge shot (Shiek at 25%) and then dash in and up-smash, which does similar damage to fully charged charge shot. These aren't true combos in the sense that the opponent can tech, though so far I've had no one tech out of this.
At very low %, dthrow to nair. At ~60-70% %, dthrow to uair (they can DI this though). These both registered as combos in training mode. If they keep Diing behind you, you can uthrow instead.
But do any of these register as true combos (I.E. cannot be DI'd out of)?
No. You can only trap if they DI behind you. They're still put in some bad positions. If they DI towards you, they go straight up.
mix dthrow/uthrow since there's no singular way to DI both.
lol, against someone who has no idea how to fight them, yes I'm sure it will seem super cancerous. But if people learn the match up that will probably change. Good use of a reflector can ruin everything for Gunner.
Fun stuff! Hopefully people start showing up and playing as the Mii Fighters.
It's not really that, it's just shields are supposed to beat projectile spamming characters (what Mii Gunner is). So if you give that character heavy shield pressure (Down B 2 is the biggest culprit by far) then you're taking away the one weakness that the character has.
Then you oughta perfect shield everything then, haha.
Bowser's can't armor anything of Gunners.
I have to disagree, I think this character with customs destroys most/all of mid tier and lower, but loses pretty hard to a few top tier MUs like Fox and Rosalini. Similar to Brawl Dedede really.
Down B 2 does not have multi hit properties, you're thinking of the Grenade. And no its not :U, it's a pretty good tool against this character, at least I think anyways.
When used in the air you've got a fair amount of end lag, especially since a lot of heavy hitting moves destroy / clang through the bomb, but it may just be for disjoints iunno for sure.
I feel inclined to disagree but w/e.
Unless the first hit sends the opponent past the second hit or when they tech before the second hit lands, it's a pretty potent kill move I agree.
you gotta let people experiment before making assumptions tho IMO
okay that is definitely absurd lol
I know Dedede can armor through some things, I'm sure Bowser can too :\
