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Guardian of the Ages: Ralph (Legend of Zelda) MOVESET UPDATED.

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Yes you should. I would recommend them, they're great.

Thanks for the continued support bud.
 
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Ralph is about the 13th most likely Zelda candidate... if he is lucky.
Lol, maybe. And the other 12?

Personally, I place him at about 4, behind Midna, Vaati (who I also support), WW Link and tied with Skull Kid (yes, I know).
 

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1. WW Link.
2. Tingle.
3. Skull kid.
4. Midna.
5. Vaati.
6. Stalfos.
7. Wolf Link.
8. Happy mask salesman

I cant remember the other 4 but he might get in at 9 if he is lucky.
 
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well thats actually a great idea, but im not sure if he will make brawl or not.
That remains to be seen. *mysterious voice*

In all likelihood though, Sakurai will again overlook the mini-series. I can't see Ralph as an AT, although I can with Maple.
 

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1. WW Link.
2. Tingle.
3. Skull kid.
4. Midna.
5. Vaati.
6. Stalfos.
7. Wolf Link.
8. Happy mask salesman

I cant remember the other 4 but he might get in at 9 if he is lucky.
Wait, wait, wait...

you're telling me that Stalfos, a generic enemy, and the HMS would get in before Ralph?! F***ING HAPPY MASK SALESMAN?!?!?!

Also, if anyone, Darknut would be in before Stalfos.
 
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Good... good.

(I cant help but feel this post is spam so... er... HMS for Brawl):dizzy:
Hey...

I do disagree with your list, but I think that's been said better above.

Anyway rapht, we will probably get one more "mage character" in Brawl. Whether its Midna, Micaicha from fire emblem (stupid name...) or vaati time will tell, but Ralph is the only other Zelda swordsman you could add.

New discussion guys. Anyone like the moveset?
 

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That list is a list of all the characters that deserve to get in over Ralph... and the ones who would get in over Ralph.
 

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Happy ****ing Mask Salesman over Ralph?! Someone should slap you...

Seriouly though, of that list you posted only Tingle and maybe Vaati deserve to be in more than Ralph as far as overall importance to the series goes, whereas Midna and Skull Kid, despite being popular choices, are in fact equally deserving - as all three have played prominent roles in only one game.
 
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Seriouly though, of that list you posted only Tingle and maybe Vaati deserve to be in more than Ralph as far as overall importance to the series goes, whereas Midna and Skull Kid, despite being popular choices, are in fact equally deserving - as all three have played prominent roles in only one game.
Quoted for truth. Hell, I'm gonna remember that.

I don't like Tingle much. Sure, he might be an...interesting character, but doesn't smack of a Brawl fighter to me. I like Vaati though (must be the hat).
 

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No need to over-react :ohwell:

I am surprised that Stalfos or any other generics made it in over Ralph
But over-reacting makes things so much more fun... :grin:
Quoted for truth. Hell, I'm gonna remember that.

I don't like Tingle much. Sure, he might be an...interesting character, but doesn't smack of a Brawl fighter to me. I like Vaati though (must be the hat).
I'm no fan of Tingle either, but he would be the most logical Legend of Zelda character to be next in line for a spot on the Brawl roster - He even has two of his own games... However, the fact he was featured with the trophies does seem to have lowered the possibility of him being a playable character (let's keep our fingers crossed...).
 

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Happy ****ing Mask Salesman over Ralph?! Someone should slap you...

Seriouly though, of that list you posted only Tingle and maybe Vaati deserve to be in more than Ralph as far as overall importance to the series goes, whereas Midna and Skull Kid, despite being popular choices, are in fact equally deserving - as all three have played prominent roles in only one game.
No... actually all of them do in fact deserve it more than him...

You see Tingle, Vaati and WW Link have all appeared in more than one game so they could be considered the strongest choices. Tingle actually has his OWN game he is better than Ralph. Vaati is the second most important Villain in the Zelda franchise and plays a major role in 2 or 3 games, he is better than Ralph. WW Link could be considered Young Link... appearing in several games and is the favorite Link of the Anouma not to mention he is Link and technically was already in Melee, he is better than Ralph.

Midna, Skull Kid and Wolf Link... these three characters have only appeared in one game... but you see the thing is this one game they appeared in is much more important to the franchise than OoS / OoA because not only were they 1. The most recent or 2. Considered the best or second best game in the series but they were actually made by Nintendo... for the main consoles and are more popular and much better.

Happy mask salesman and Stalfos... Happy Mask salesman is the single most unique and mysterious character in the entire Zelda series, he is apparently based off of Miyamoto and plays the biggest role (Or second biggest role) in MM which is as i explained before immensely more important than OoS and OoA. Stalfos... meh Darknut would be a better choice.
 

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No... actually all of them do in fact deserve it more than him...

You see Tingle, Vaati and WW Link have all appeared in more than one game so they could be considered the strongest choices. Tingle actually has his OWN game he is better than Ralph. Vaati is the second most important Villain in the Zelda franchise and plays a major role in 2 or 3 games, he is better than Ralph. WW Link could be considered Young Link... appearing in several games and is the favorite Link of the Anouma not to mention he is Link and technically was already in Melee, he is better than Ralph.

Midna, Skull Kid and Wolf Link... these three characters have only appeared in one game... but you see the thing is this one game they appeared in is much more important to the franchise than OoS / OoA because not only were they 1. The most recent or 2. Considered the best or second best game in the series but they were actually made by Nintendo... for the main consoles and are more popular and much better.

Happy mask salesman and Stalfos... Happy Mask salesman is the single most unique and mysterious character in the entire Zelda series, he is apparently based off of Miyamoto and plays the biggest role (Or second biggest role) in MM which is as i explained before immensely more important than OoS and OoA. Stalfos... meh Darknut would be a better choice.
While I will agree with you that Twilight Princess is more important to the series overall, the same can't really be said of Majora's Mask as it was really just a follow-up to Orcarina of Time. Also, even if he is unique and mysterious, HMS fills a considerably niche role - even in his "breakthrough role" game Majora's Mask, and you must realize that a generic enemy type is NEVER going to get in over an established character...

But at any rate, before we go any further into the "who is more deserving?" debate, I have two words for you: Pokemon Trainer.
 

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... What? the only reason we didn't think he could get in because we couldn't see how he could possibly be made a character... he is more deserving than Pikachu FFS.
 

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... What? the only reason we didn't think he could get in because we couldn't see how he could possibly be made a character... he is more deserving than Pikachu FFS.
But you forget that the Pokemon games are all about the Pokemon; the generic Pokemon Trainer only serves as an avatar for you, the player. But then again, the three pokemon that you actually control, the Red/Blue starters, are arguably more important than Pikachu (and certainly more so than Jigglypuff). Still, there are plently of other examples of were a character's deservingness can be debated - just look at the whole mess surrounding the Ice Climbers, particularly prior to their confirmation. As Clint once put in,''Deserve's got nothin' to do with it.'' - because whoever gets in is ultimately whoever Sakurai wants to include. Simple as that.
 

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What why wouldn't the IC deserve a spot? they were retro when choosing retro characters they would likely go through an entirely different process.
 
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But you forget that the Pokemon games are all about the Pokemon; the generic Pokemon Trainer only serves as an avatar for you, the player. But then again, the three pokemon that you actually control, the Red/Blue starters, are arguably more important than Pikachu (and certainly more so than Jigglypuff). Still, there are plently of other examples of were a character's deservingness can be debated - just look at the whole mess surrounding the Ice Climbers, particularly prior to their confirmation. As Clint once put in,''Deserve's got nothin' to do with it.'' - because whoever gets in is ultimately whoever Sakurai wants to include. Simple as that.
''Deserve's got nothin' to do with it.''

****ing major win. I'm sigging that one day.

I agree with that. Ice Climbers were rumoured to be cut because they were unpopular, and look what happened. Jigglypuff too.

And Pichu?

WTF.
 

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IC were rumored to be cut so what? that has nothing to do with this.

Jiggly has lost popularity in Japan but considering she isn't a clone she likely will still get in.

Pichu a side effect of rushed development.

What has all that got to do with anything?
 

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^^It has to do with this concept of deservingness you seem to be advocating and those are examples of characters who made the Smash roster in spite of such general ideas concerning character worthiness. For example, before Melee, Ice Climber was but one rather unremarkable title out of Nintendo's entire retro NES library and yet they made it ahead of other more well-known retro NES characters like Pit and Little Mac (and I recall that actually got under quite a few retro gamers' skins). Jigglypuff, for a time, played a fairly important role in the anime - which is probably why she was included in SSB64 as she was just another Pokemon in the games, but this was no longer the case leading up to Melee's release... and yet she was still included in the roster despite there being a number of more popular Pokemon that could have served as her replacement. Now certainly, there is a criteria in place as far as character selection is concerned. However, it is evidenced that it is in fact much more open-ended than we seem to give it credit for.
 

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Yes but i dont see how not being able to animate someones wings and a few characters that look identical to their counterpart due to rushed development even applies here.

And popularity and the Anime is one of the few things that separate Pokemon from one anther... so dont pass it off lightly.
 

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^^Now the fact of the matter is we don't EXACTLY know why Pit wasn't included in Melee. Sure the wings issue is the popular explanation, but I've yet to see a definitive source to back up that claim. And that still doesn't explain why Mac was passed over in favor of the Ice Climbers... And I'm not passing the Anime Factor off lightly by any means. However, even at the height of her career, Jiggs was really nothing more than a recurring bit character. So if any other Pokemon were to be included on account of the anime, it really should have been Meowth... And regardless of whether a character was included due to rushed development or not, the fact still remains that they were chosen by Sakurai, and in Brawl's case it will also be completely up to Sakurai and Co. as to who will make the final cut.

And with that I'm finished. You're free to have the final word as I have already made my point and don't want to stray off topic any further. Arguing over a plausible character's validity ALWAYS ends up going in circles; it's usually just best to state your opinion of the character and leave it at that. I don't see why you're so hung up over someone you're so certain won't make the cut anyway - although I will openly admit that I've been guilty of that before myself.

Now getting back on topic... Ralph (Link's ONLY rival) FTW!
 
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Admit it, you probably browsed the web looking for characters cause no one would immediately come up with this as a suggestion.
Nope, I've liked this guy since I was eleven years old. Sad, but true.

Anyway, what do you newcomers think of the moveset? Any suggestions?
 

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When I first saw this thread title, I laughed and thought to myself, "Pfft, what a stupid idea for a character."

After reading the Original Post and the moveset, I've seen the light...

RALPH FTW!!!!!!
 
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When I first saw this thread title, I laughed and thought to myself, "Pfft, what a stupid idea for a character."

After reading the Original Post and the moveset, I've seen the light...

RALPH FTW!!!!!!
If I have done that, then I have succeeded.

Anyway, MOVESET. I was thinking of adding a feature like Luigi's in Melee, where there would be a small "failure rate" after some moves.
 
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XD.

I finally found a good down smash, and changed the forwards smash.

Don't know why it took me so ****ing long, I've done fencing for over a year now!!
 

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Wow. I pretty impressed by the initial post. I new the character but didn't think anyone would have the imagination to make him into a PC. Nice work, however, you've reminded me that I never beat OoA, **** Goron Dance...
 
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*cough cough*

Hopefully my last update to the main page for ages (no pun intended) now. I did promise it would go up though, so don't kill me because the screen is stretched! (Help resizing on photobucket wanted!)

Thanks.
 

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You know, the more closer we get to Brawl's release, the less likely Ralph seems.

I mean, he wasn't mentioned on Sakurai's polls, and his fanbase isnt' too big...

I might just go unnoticed. :(
 
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