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As long as you get a reasonable AD carry, you can definitely be a factor support wise. It may be due to the ELO bracket I'm in now, but unless your ad bot is absolutely ******** (which in soloQ this can happen to any lane) your basically the dictator of how the lane is going to be.how do i say this...
supporting in solo-queue is ****ing ********. who would ever suggest such an idea to me
I don't get Jannas who spam this though, what would keep the other AD+support from jumping on your carry as soon as your shied runs out and your dmg is ignorable again?As long as you get a reasonable AD carry, you can definitely be a factor support wise. It may be due to the ELO bracket I'm in now, but unless your ad bot is absolutely ******** (which in soloQ this can happen to any lane) your basically the dictator of how the lane is going to be.
Sona is great at this because of her Q and range, I use gp5 quints, but I've been debating just ad quints with my current arpen reds, flat armor yellows, w/e blues I use on her/Janna.
I find Janna/Sona being the most effective at trading harass if you don't want to rely on your AD to recognize and help you. I suppose Nunu/GP are good for this too but I never have used them for support. Just shielding yourself as Janna and autoing while retreating back into bushes is pretty strong.
Taric/Alistar/Leona are great too but they are sort of reliant on there AD carry to follow them up. Soraka is sort of the same way except she doesn't initiate anything usually unless it's a bait, since you rely on them to know if they take dmg they are about to get healed and 1000000000+ armor buff so they can keep attacking.
It's lane matchup/skill dependent. You see there AD/support use skills? Your free to go ahead and harass. There's a lot of factors for when to do it or not. Such as if your ad is far back waiting on the caster minions etc. It's certainly something that shouldn't be spammed unless it's something you think you can get away with.I don't get Jannas who spam this though, what would keep the other AD+support from jumping on your carry as soon as your shied runs out and your dmg is ignorable again?
Yeah you can still help him out with your other skills but that costs alot of mana just for some harass with shield empowered AAs.
I'm not saying the whole idea is stupid, but from the little amount of Jannas i see in solo q most of them dont use this very wisely imo
I run AD quints and get Sheen with my support Sona. People learn to be ****ing terrified of that **** quickly bot laneSona is great at this because of her Q and range, I use gp5 quints, but I've been debating just ad quints with my current arpen reds, flat armor yellows, w/e blues I use on her/Janna.
I think it's you and Leacero.swf doesnt play mid? I always thought it was the most popular and appealing role to casuals since you get to see yourself do lots of damage
Ap mid main. Right here.I think it's you and Leacero.
Also I was talking to Kevin, Andy, not you, lol. You already have AD and jangle.
I'm pretty sure you main jungle Amumu. I have witnessed it.Ap mid main. Right here.
damn yo, what did jb do to you?Sometime I que up when jb ques so I get a free win.
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3rd, I prefer support and jungle over it, more a utility player than a "DEAL TONS AND TONS OF DAMAGE" player.swf doesnt play mid? I always thought it was the most popular and appealing role to casuals since you get to see yourself do lots of damage
Honestly, Leona is not great unless you're paired with sivir and on purple side.Taric/Alistar/Leona are great too but they are sort of reliant on there AD carry to follow them up. Soraka is sort of the same way except she doesn't initiate anything usually unless it's a bait, since you rely on them to know if they take dmg they are about to get healed and 1000000000+ armor buff so they can keep attacking.
Pantheon bodies Garen and Riven. So long as you chuck spears on the way in and build up your passive prior to engaging, you will work them over even at level 1.@Mogwai in that guide you say pantheon smacks at level 1.
and I can see that in most cases but what about panth vs riven? or panth vs garen?
guide was great tho. definitely put up some numbers after trying your build.
I'll duo with you, sir. I don't play a ton of AD carries, but honestly if you keep our carry alive while I jungle, we'll be a potent duo.Odds are you're better then you were before.
Which reminds me, I'd like to start ranked rather soon, I'm a competent player that mains support. Currently looking for a duo queue partner, preferably an AD carry. Would like to practice in a number of normals with said duo queue partner before actually playing ranked.
Kevin is all about stealing what I play. When I only played AD bot Kevin took it. He's def gonna just start Karthusing and Xerathing mid.KEVIN, what happened to playing ranged AD???
But then a wild malphite appears!Pantheon bodies Garen and Riven. So long as you chuck spears on the way in and build up your passive prior to engaging, you will work them over even at level 1.
Ok, we could try it in some normals. In that case we'd primarily be concentrating on map control since we do the majority of the warding (all at low levels unfortunately)I'll duo with you, sir. I don't play a ton of AD carries, but honestly if you keep our carry alive while I jungle, we'll be a potent duo.
you mean the malphite like a month ago who got completely bodied by my drunk Pantheon who decided to rush LW!?But then a wild malphite appears!
I still remember that game, that malphite was probably worse then mine.
Longer, the one that was ridiculously bad and died twice I think it was in lane. Then he hit 6 and completely outbodied you and even killed you under turret 1v1. Also kennen wouldn't switch.you mean the malphite like a month ago who got completely bodied by my drunk Pantheon who decided to rush LW!?
wait, swf elite play lol really well? I thought everyone on swf sucked other than jpak...so guys when i reach lvl 30 will u guys adopt me into the 'swf elite we play lol really well' party and train as as one of your kin
oh yea, that game, yea that one sucked. the other one where I was drunk was after that and I seriously just rushed LW and bodied the malphite, it was hilarious. Still don't really understand how it happened.Longer, the one that was ridiculously bad and died twice I think it was in lane. Then he hit 6 and completely outbodied you and even killed you under turret 1v1. Also kennen wouldn't switch.
I dunno, there's not a ton of trolling going on when I play with smashers, guess it depends on the group.Judging skill in League is really hard if you don't play arranged play
Soloq and arranged are COMPLETELY different monsters, this is evident in literally any game with team play.
EDIT: Also, the SWF people troll the **** out of eachother every time they play together.