Grand Old Thread: League of Legends!

[Jazriel]

Kevin and I just played some hilarious ranked games. Being the type of person who has the worst luck imaginable, I can understand why people complain about ELO hell. I'm not entirely ready to write-off my success to my skill, but we stomped everyone really badly. Sion + Mejai's is just unfair vs noobs haha.

 

[@TKbreezy]

http://allisbrawl.com/blogpost.aspx?id=102926

Possible support?

 

[PhantomX]

Bunch of us in-house all the time... but we also do a lot of ARAM, lol.

 

[@TKbreezy]

I'd Stream that...I'm in The swf chat now but everyones always playing.

 

[UTDZac]

I still don't understand how, when I shoot an Arrow down middle of lane, it misses everyone. Screw ARAMs ><

 

[@TKbreezy]

LMAO^ you clearly have the most precise arrow in the game.

Edit: Imagine if you could hit the nexus with that...lol

 

[Evanms]

How to win Adam: philo stone-wits end-tiamat. Then stack wits end.

 

[DanGR]

I still don't understand how, when I shoot an Arrow down middle of lane, it misses everyone. Screw ARAMs ><

I bet they avoided sitting in the middle just for that reason.

 

[jpak]

Play Kassadin vs Karthus, it is really hard for Karthus to win the lane.

 

[PhantomX]

I still don't understand how, when I shoot an Arrow down middle of lane, it misses everyone. Screw ARAMs ><

That's not even the best one. You missed an almost point-blank arrow... you shot it towards bottom right corner of map through the bottom brush at mid... WTF.

 

[NeverKnowsBest]

Play Kassadin vs Karthus, it is really hard for Karthus to win the lane.

Karthus is just wack from the start. So annoying fighting him as Ezreal.

 

[UTDZac]

That's not even the best one. You missed an almost point-blank arrow... you shot it towards bottom right corner of map through the bottom brush at mid... WTF.

That was that lag glitch where you pick a direction, let go, and it shoots somewhere random. Ya know?

 

[Shaya]

Karthus is just wack from the start. So annoying fighting him as Ezreal.

He wouldn't be annoying at all if you packed as much mana regen as he does!

Realistically, I find it takes a good Karth or some really annoying/whacking minion zoning (**** minions) to harass you effectively.

If you are at the sides of the creeps, as in not behind; which is the general zone Ez likes to put himself in (clearer shots at champs rather than minions / enemies have to waste spells on 'you' rather than 'you + minions') you should be able to manoeuvre around his q while getting auto attack last hits.

AP ez has a much easier time funnily enough,
he packs more mana regen,
will use w to harass, which hurts da nub
doesn't use AAs as much to last hit, etc

 

[Ignatius]

I still don't understand how, when I shoot an Arrow down middle of lane, it misses everyone. Screw ARAMs ><

You should probably have tried aiming it.

 

[Virgilijus]

That's not even the best one. You missed an almost point-blank arrow... you shot it towards bottom right corner of map through the bottom brush at mid... WTF.

He sensed the gank coming. Trust his instincts!

 

[@TKbreezy]

I feel good when a Skill shot in between groups of minions fighting.

speaking of yesterday I hit the best juke ever

I was at the second turret at the top about to get 3 man ganked (our Second line top turret)

So as They (Lux Ashe and Blitzcrank) came I ran into the bush, Then I ran out of the bush going down like I was running to their base

Blitz used his Pull and Lux used her snare and as that came out I flashed Back OVER the bush and started running back to base with ghost. Ashe tried to read my movement and her ult arrow in front of me and I just stopped and watched it pass and then kept running...

3 man gank?

FAILED

I was kat btw.

 

[jpak]

I want to play swain when the other team doesn't hv 2+ heal debuffs

 

[@TKbreezy]

When is the next in house anyway?

 

[M3D]

At least we won when we tryharded last night jpak. That's the trouble running with five and trying new champs. You have to play other teams of five that are tryharding. I need more Irelia practice but I'm tired of doing poorly. I need some wins to bolster my confidence again so I'm gonna go back to tank/jungling for a bit and then switch back to trying new things once I'm on a roll.

 

[KevinM]

Kevin and I just played some hilarious ranked games. Being the type of person who has the worst luck imaginable, I can understand why people complain about ELO hell. I'm not entirely ready to write-off my success to my skill, but we stomped everyone really badly. Sion + Mejai's is just unfair vs noobs haha.

Yeah those were some serious stomps.

That one we lost with the Yi was hilarious, and the best part was stomping the Uzeill player in the later game after he said he didn't belong at that ELO.

 

[Teh Brettster]

How to win Adam: philo stone-wits end-tiamat. Then stack wits end.

What's funny... I've built all of those items on Ashe in ARAM, I think. Wit's End was more or less for the enemy Rammus, because I could destroy his mana pool decently fast.

I want to be Tiamat Pirate if I get him in an ARAM. Parley everything. At the same time.

 

[jpak]

http://www.nationalesl.com/us/lol/5on5/ems_quali_2/signup/
http://www.nationalesl.com/us/lol/5on5/scrim_night_2/signup/

SWF should sign up for those two, odin you can set someone up as a co-leader or leader too so he can handle the match reporting and all that.

 

[PhantomX]

At least we won when we tryharded last night jpak. That's the trouble running with five and trying new champs. You have to play other teams of five that are tryharding. I need more Irelia practice but I'm tired of doing poorly. I need some wins to bolster my confidence again so I'm gonna go back to tank/jungling for a bit and then switch back to trying new things once I'm on a roll.

It would help not to open by jungling as her until you have a good path down. I did a lot of custom games w/ Malphite to learn how to do it well before actually using it in game.

But yeah, looks like you figured Swain out pretty quick, jpak. Just a bad team to be using Swain against, lol. Have you considered giving DFG a shot on Swain? I'm curious if the active works with his Torment.

 

[jpak]

It would help not to open by jungling as her until you have a good path down. I did a lot of custom games w/ Malphite to learn how to do it well before actually using it in game.

But yeah, looks like you figured Swain out pretty quick, jpak. Just a bad team to be using Swain against, lol. Have you considered giving DFG a shot on Swain? I'm curious if the active works with his Torment.

I am just going by how xPeke builds Swain who is the top Swain in EU.
He goes doran ring -> catalyst -> either RoA or leaves it there and starts building cap, and if hes doing bad he turns it into banshee. merc or sorc boots are thrown in there somewhere. Once I figure him out better I'll experiment. DFG probably won't work because it says from Swain's attacks but it might I'll try it later.

Anyways after watching CLG vs TSM a second time AoE CC seems to be the way to go, and fighting at dragon isn't that important apparently and neither is getting CV. Also the duo laning phase is really short, at like 5 mins its solo bot with one roaming cooooliooo

 

[UTDZac]

Sharing ward responsibility is also really important. If no one on your team wards but you, then thats bad cause you can't be everywhere at once (getting exp AND warding over and over). But if you learn to share responsibility, like every 6 min bot lane Alistar wards 3 places, then you'll be in better shape. Provided both solo lanes have been doing well, I think the jungler should sacrifice for better map control (moar wards) and getting an oracles.

At higher levels I see using a green on drake then getting oracles is better than getting a pink early for a quick drake by yourself (as jungler).

 

[jpak]

Sharing ward responsibility is also really important. If no one on your team wards but you, then thats bad cause you can't be everywhere at once (getting exp AND warding over and over). But if you learn to share responsibility, like every 6 min bot lane Alistar wards 3 places, then you'll be in better shape. Provided both solo lanes have been doing well, I think the jungler should sacrifice for better map control (moar wards) and getting an oracles.

At higher levels I see using a green on drake then getting oracles is better than getting a pink early for a quick drake by yourself (as jungler).

Yeah they oracled a lot earlier than I usually would. Oracled at about 10 minutes. What went wrong when I played Solomid was my team, well carries, don't play a lot of the common ones. For example we don't have a sivir, ashe, corki, anivia player so that hurt us. What we banned was trist corki shen forcing loco to go sivir since his sivir is not good at all. This worked well but we gave them janna too and Janna+Sivir is too strong, so we got outpicked right there . Oh well, we'll be changing our lineup sooon.

 

[Wobbles]

jpak: Don't take too much as gospel from that match. It's more important you understand *why* certain things were advantageous and why certain factors could be ignored *in that particular game*.

TSM got that early dragon and it was a big deal because it helped make up a bit for Corki/Olaf's FB. Had TSM gone back to laning, it would have been more helpful. Taric+Sion might have been able to shut down Cho together once Ali went running around the map, for instance; instead they *both* started wandering and Chaox didn't even bother to get farm anywhere.

Something you should definitely take as hard fact from it is this: don't let lanes (especially carry lanes) free-farm, and don't forget your own. Chaox's Taric was level 7 when there were three 10+ champs on the other team, one of them being Chauster's level 14 Corki. A Corki with almost 200 CS at the time. After Chauster got FB he stayed pretty far up in his lane, and nobody went to do anything about it. He got to supress Regi, then Locodoco b/c Loco couldn't actually fight back.

CV is how TSM was able to keep the game even in a lot of cases. The CV is actually what scared CLG away from their blue and kept Olaf blue-less for awhile; he made up for that loss of gold and exp though by helping Chauster FB, but that doesn't necessarily mean junglers don't need blue.

TSM's biggest problem was hesitation; they stuttered on a lot of openings, then over-committed when they went in (even after it was too late). They also prioritized poorly, going for a gank on jiji even though they know CLG had no CV or wards at baron.

 

[PhantomX]

Sharing ward responsibility is also really important. If no one on your team wards but you, then thats bad cause you can't be everywhere at once (getting exp AND warding over and over). But if you learn to share responsibility, like every 6 min bot lane Alistar wards 3 places, then you'll be in better shape. Provided both solo lanes have been doing well, I think the jungler should sacrifice for better map control (moar wards) and getting an oracles.

At higher levels I see using a green on drake then getting oracles is better than getting a pink early for a quick drake by yourself (as jungler).

The only thing I don't really like about getting Oracle's on a jungler is that it you have to play safer with it when you have it, at least until it somewhat pays itself off. Not to mention junglers can also often have expensive builds. Way I see it is if a support hero can afford it, they should be getting the oracle's.

Sharing ward responsibility is super important though, and a lot of people don't do it (especially if they see a jungler drop a few wards).

As for Dragon, the only time I think it's worth getting a Dragon at the expense of a tower is if it's the outer top turret. If you're losing any other structure to get dragon its a bad trade because you're giving up huge positional advantage in doing so.

 

[UTDZac]

If a jungler has Oracles he shouldn't be dieing. Having oracles means the opponent won't have map control, and cannot surprise you. This is assuming you are a smart player and don't run in the middle of no where when you can't see the opposing players in their lanes on the mini map.

 

[PhantomX]

Yeah... that terrible gank on Anivia was what put the final nail in the coffin for them, for sure. Once that wall went up and they couldn't land that stun they should have just backed off and regrouped. It was silly that they chased and got out of position for that, which is what let them get aced.

Chasing Anivia is always a disaster

 

[jpak]

Especially when the Anivia has swiftness

The game was probably lost in champ select, chaox does not know how to build taric. Their team had no tank, taric naturally is tanky if he levels aura early on. He also has to have like merc/banshee because he is a meele character and needs to be close to be effective with his armor aura and ult. Sion was building something else too either AD or tank too I think. AD takes too long and they should have realized that the game was not going to take that long. Tank works and so does support apparently since Elementz went support sion in their first match vs TSM.

Also my idea of everyteam having a heal is wrong apparently as CLG showed me once again with Alistar being their only healer and a weak one at that. I don't even think CLG was trying all that hard tbh.

 

[Mogwai]

I'm glad Nidalee poops on Kass.


At least during laning. <_<

Kass ***** her throughout the whole game in my experience. Utahime always used to give Hotshot the business in that matchup.

TL beat RS last round but then failed vs. DOA. bleh, I really hope they don't **** up the seeding in the next qualifier because of Goose no-showing in Qualifier round 1. I think we have a very legit shot at qualifying so long as we don't hit Goose in the bracket (preferably not RS again too, but hey, did it once, do it again ). BLEH, Goose really ****ed **** up, I still can't believe how weak that bracket was without them, lElo lucked out hard.

 

[Frolossus]

decided im gonna buy ez next weekend when i have enough ip
soooo much fun lol

also should i still be buying chalice on him?
and what about the whole inf edge vs bloodthirsters argument
and is brutilizer worth it?
and for boots cdr or mercs?

 

[Evanms]

When is the next in house anyway?

pretty much everyday more then 5 of us are on. But every Friday arams are for sure.

About wards, we had some great map controll this weekend. Everyone was buying wards and one game we had their entire jungle lit up constantly. Only lost 2/13 games this weekend in normals.

 

[jpak]

I heard today they are doing serious inhouses is this true?

 

[Mogwai]

decided im gonna buy ez next weekend when i have enough ip
soooo much fun lol

also should i still be buying chalice on him?

I answer this question in the following manner:
is the character in question Galio?
yes: yes
no: no

so, since Ezreal is not Galio, no, you should not build Chalice.

and what about the whole inf edge vs bloodthirsters argument

what about it? BT is better for Mystic Shot, IE is better for auto-attacking. You gotta come to that decision on your own, but both builds have merit.

and is brutilizer worth it?

bruta + sheen was the FotM early dominance Ezreal build. Is it still worth it? I dunno, again, it still has merit, but again there are perfectly viable alternatives.

and for boots cdr or mercs?

zerker's greaves are also viable, again it's situational and build dependent. sheen + bruta + cdr boots -> bt + bv -> triforce sounds good in my book, but you'll see all sorts of different ****. CDR + Mystic Shot is incredibly powerful synergy.

 

[Frolossus]

thanks mog will try that

 

[L__]

decided im gonna buy ez next weekend when i have enough ip
soooo much fun lol

also should i still be buying chalice on him?
and what about the whole inf edge vs bloodthirsters argument
and is brutilizer worth it?
and for boots cdr or mercs?

I don't think you should be buying Chalice.

Most Ezreals I've heard from use Triforce/Wriggles with boots depending on what you wanna do more. I'm pretty sure brutalizer is always worth it on Ez. BT is cheaper, and imo it's better if you're good at not dying.

ooh got ninja'd

 

[NeverKnowsBest]

decided im gonna buy ez next weekend when i have enough ip
soooo much fun lol

also should i still be buying chalice on him?
and what about the whole inf edge vs bloodthirsters argument
and is brutilizer worth it?
and for boots cdr or mercs?

No chalice. Chalice is poop. You shouldn't be wasting mana on killing creeps with MS.

I play AD Ezreal and I usually go:

Doran's Blade
Sheen - for harder hitting MS and mana. Also builds into Trinity Force.
Boots of Speed into Berserker Grieves - because Ezreal's auto attack hurts a lot when going AD.
Bloodthirster - Because life steal and 100 AD after stack is awesome.
Last Whisper - Armor Pen and more AD? Hell yes.
Usually I end with Trinity Force and buy random things that I think would be fun or survivability. You could buy an Infinity Edge at the end if you want. I've done it before and had a blast with it.

Brutilizer is not worth it. Build a sheen. When rushing both items the Sheen has 13 more points in damage that the Brutilizer. + I like Triforce.

Ezreal is a mid champ and should always get first blood in my honest opinion. If you wanna talk about Ezreal just PM me and I can link you to some awesome resources.

 

[Juno McGrath]

I really like the things NKB says and does.

Seems like a cool guy.