Teh Brettster
Smash Master
Sheen Alistar tooo goooood. Tower? BONK.
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- Thread starter JTB
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Was it ranked? I think Pee Pee plays, but I've never heard him say anything about doing ranked.
I'm not level 30 yet, so I still haven't gotten into ranked games but I totally get where you're coming from.
I feel like I go on hot streaks where my team composition is great, our communication is excellent, people don't over extend themselves, and they initiate when it's smart to do so.
Then I go through like a dozen games where I have to deal with feeders, people who don't play a champ they know, put themselves into stupid and avoidable situations, or just make a team of all Melee characters or AP carries or something.
I make a point to be able to at least decently play somebody of every type. I can play Udyr and Olaf in the jungle. I can play Siver for a ranged AD, I can play AP Teemo, Rammus if we need a tank, and Janna if we need a support. Granted the level of comfort between them all varies, but I can at least not suck. If I could play Teemo or Udyr every game I would, but sometimes somebody just locks in a champ that already fills that role.
Last game I played today I went 9/2/5 as AP Teemo. The rest of my team had at least 10 deaths each. They wouldn't call mia's despite me constantly asking, they wouldn't ping for help or respond to pings until it was too late, and they let a Vlad just feed off of them. By level 16 their Vlad had a Void Staff and two Death Caps along with the rest of his build. They just didn't play smart at all despite me trying to lead them.
Everything I hear about ranked makes me kind of dread it if it's going to be more of the same I get already in normal que.
There's no reason to. Just don't stress about it. You WILL get bad teammates from time to time and you will lose here and there, but you can still enjoy yourself by playing your role to the best of your ability.Everything I hear about ranked makes me kind of dread it if it's going to be more of the same I get already in normal que.
Juno McGrath
Smash Hero
Dekar173
Justice Man
Maybe EU doesn't like burst? That's the only thing I can see with Malz/Cho, and morgana/swain I'm not seeing where that's coming from but perhaps top players on the teams are beastly with them? ;p
Also gotta remember sometimes you want 2 amazing picks after the opponents get first pick.
Also gotta remember sometimes you want 2 amazing picks after the opponents get first pick.
john!
Smash Hero
anivia nerfs are fine, now elementz has an excuse to take her down from top since she's rare in high elo anyway, and i can play her in peace. i expected worse. these had better be the only nerfs though.
Unless the nerfs were drastic, they aren't gonna change the champ much at all. Increased mana cost would give her incentive to get Catalyst or mana item early instead of damage, but wait she already does that because she's able to do that to cover mana and still do great. Compared to changing range, damage, CD, etc Mana would feel like the least effective thing to change if you are trying to bring a champ in line. Especially with things like Blue Buff and Catalyst around to address anything but sheer wasteful mana useage.
I'm not gonna get into Anivia, I don't think you guys will see eye to eye on this one, but you gotta admit Riot probably should have looked into other changes first instead of basically hitting mana.
I'm not gonna get into Anivia, I don't think you guys will see eye to eye on this one, but you gotta admit Riot probably should have looked into other changes first instead of basically hitting mana.
Cho provides huge amounts of CC with incredible survivability if you build him tank (enough to tank towers quite a bit to either push/for teamfights), as well as a targeted nuke that can effectively remove one person from the fight, tank or not. He's also an incredibly strong laner due to his passive and can easily invade opponents' jungle (and secure important objectives with feast). He's stupidly good imo, and I think US underrates him. Building him AP as opposed to CC bot tank is wasting his potential, imo [the Cho on H2K built him tank].
Swain and Malz provide A LOT of sustained damage (although it's over time) as well as some fairly good CC... but Malzahar does it from a very safe distance comparably, which is why I guess they banned him.
I play tanks, yo.
john!
Smash Hero
Kassadin is overpowered. I will not be convinced otherwise. That is all.
StealthyGunnar
Smash Champion
Hes not that op if hes not fed
john!
Smash Hero
too bad he ALWAYS gets fed. every kass gets mejai's, every kass gets fed. maybe not at top level, but at 1400 elo you see him every game and he carries every time. i have to beg our captain to ban him so i can play bird without getting stomped by derpadin's bull****.
last game the kass was on OUR team (i was ashe). he also got fed and carried.
i'd buy him but he's gonna be free next week if i do. but i should try him out. reallllly op.
last game the kass was on OUR team (i was ashe). he also got fed and carried.
i'd buy him but he's gonna be free next week if i do. but i should try him out. reallllly op.
This is quite funny. You want to complain about Kass, but give Anivia the benefit of the doubt? LOL
Kass is quite strong, but the idea of complaining about him over anivia sounds silly.
StealthyGunnar
Smash Champion
kass is somewhat op, but id say anivia is even more. i played an anivia a couple weeks ago who carried their whole team. he/she went 34-2-18
Frolossus
Smash Lord
kass shuts down anivia hard
Dekar173
Justice Man
Doesn't discount the fact that Anivia is what everyone's hating atm (aside from Vlad).
People don't feel that they're actually outplayed when Anivia defeats them in lane- they feel out charactered.
StealthyGunnar
Smash Champion
i used to play vlad a lot. it was just easy mode with him.
does any1 else feel that they constantly switch mains just to enjoy this game? it's like i find a champ that i love, and they get boring. just got done "maining" yi. i really didnt get fed all too much, but won lots. now i wanna play some ashe after a nice game i had last night (9-2-14). too bad i wasnt soloing mid. prolly woulda had more kills lol.
Dekar173
Justice Man
Play characters with skillshots they're way more fun
StealthyGunnar
Smash Champion
does DPS blitz sound fun? lol
john!
Smash Hero
Lol
Did you take a large sample of high elo? I mean I saw your 10+ games or so, but that's indescribably small compared to a multi thousand compilation of games demonstrating that.
Even assuming Anivia is unpopular at higher elo, are you suggesting character popularity is the factor that decides whether a champ is OP or not? I can tell you regardless of how popular she is that she's really strong right now.
john!
Smash Hero
What I'm getting at, is that you're willing to complain about Kass (and admittedly not on a high elo bases, but on a 1400- basis) but yet when the spotlight is on Anivia, someone even further above Kass, you turn your back and ignore it. Maybe not entirely you in particular, but people who want Anivia left alone but then say "Man Taric is too good" or Kass too good or something similar.
It's like complaining about the "bottom of the barrel" of champs who might be OP, instead of looking at the top and going "wtf is this ****".
It's like complaining about the "bottom of the barrel" of champs who might be OP, instead of looking at the top and going "wtf is this ****".
StealthyGunnar
Smash Champion
god dmg i cant read ur posts. ur ****ing sig is like im on something.
john!
Smash Hero
this is what happens when i debate tier lists lol. i look directly at top level pros and see who places well at national tournaments (i.e. puff is top tier because she dominates international tournaments.). then i debate people who base their tier lists off their own personal opinions and experiences (i.e. puff sucks because i've never played a good puff and she dies easily off the top). i just laugh because they don't know as much as the top pros, and think that they do.
Jpak, you need an avatar ;P
After playing so many 5s games today I found a few new things:
Soraka is really good
Zilean is counter by a hard CC team ie lux taric ashe and ya
Global ult team is really strong - soraka karthus tf panth shen
Malphite is a very good champion despite how many times hotshot says he is not on stream
doublelift's blitz is the real deal
Soraka is really good
Zilean is counter by a hard CC team ie lux taric ashe and ya
Global ult team is really strong - soraka karthus tf panth shen
Malphite is a very good champion despite how many times hotshot says he is not on stream
doublelift's blitz is the real deal
john!
Smash Hero
i wasn't aware that this was the official definition of "top player". my mistake.
Malzahar is an 'op' character imo.
People just don't want to believe it yet.
1. He pushes and farms like Heimerdinger (not as 'quickly' to set up, but he can mow down towers). He outbursts heimerdinger. He has better 'escape' than heimerdinger (higher movement speed plus q 'covering as you run' + the danger of his burst + suppression).
2. He has two huge aoe spells that do a pretty fair amount of damage. One scales with HP%.
3. He has 'dps' like damage in Malefic Visions, and with proper use keep his mana supply up. Coupled with rylais he has a 5.5 second slow (with the minimum being 4 seconds).
4. Suppression, the longest range, the longest duration and the highest damage.
5. Four spells for a minion = great harass potential increase + tower pushing, etc etc.
6. In middle he reaches close to ungankable status at around level 7. Where he can malefic vision melee creeps, throw out q and then sit next to tower as he still gains xp and gains gold, as well as resupplying him with mana. Most characters are pushed to the tower, tower clears creeps, most characters are forced to let malz free farm as getting hit by a 300 damage dot which can get turned around into a voidling bash/ult is enough burst to kill most mid carry characters.
He's mediocre (not bad by any means, but he can't be as 'free willed', q + w + e by camping in a bush reminds you of spin to win garen, amirite?) in top lane because he 'needs to push' but he can't do so safely.
Ditto to bottom lane.
He outbursts just about all ap carries in 2 spells (q + w) in aoe, and has sustained damage.
Like, realistically, his single target damage is almost up there with le blanc (requires skill shots though).
With any sort of aoe cc his damage in aoe is better than... like everyone.
His range is godlike.
People just don't want to believe it yet.
1. He pushes and farms like Heimerdinger (not as 'quickly' to set up, but he can mow down towers). He outbursts heimerdinger. He has better 'escape' than heimerdinger (higher movement speed plus q 'covering as you run' + the danger of his burst + suppression).
2. He has two huge aoe spells that do a pretty fair amount of damage. One scales with HP%.
3. He has 'dps' like damage in Malefic Visions, and with proper use keep his mana supply up. Coupled with rylais he has a 5.5 second slow (with the minimum being 4 seconds).
4. Suppression, the longest range, the longest duration and the highest damage.
5. Four spells for a minion = great harass potential increase + tower pushing, etc etc.
6. In middle he reaches close to ungankable status at around level 7. Where he can malefic vision melee creeps, throw out q and then sit next to tower as he still gains xp and gains gold, as well as resupplying him with mana. Most characters are pushed to the tower, tower clears creeps, most characters are forced to let malz free farm as getting hit by a 300 damage dot which can get turned around into a voidling bash/ult is enough burst to kill most mid carry characters.
He's mediocre (not bad by any means, but he can't be as 'free willed', q + w + e by camping in a bush reminds you of spin to win garen, amirite?) in top lane because he 'needs to push' but he can't do so safely.
Ditto to bottom lane.
He outbursts just about all ap carries in 2 spells (q + w) in aoe, and has sustained damage.
Like, realistically, his single target damage is almost up there with le blanc (requires skill shots though).
With any sort of aoe cc his damage in aoe is better than... like everyone.
His range is godlike.
-Vocal-
Smash Hero
I fought a Malz with max CD. He suppressed someone on my team. Then he did it again 35 seconds later.
O_O
**** is scary yo
Hey DMG, since you're here do you think you could give me the instructions on how to use skins, just for my own personal viewing? I tried something like the instructions you gave before but it didn't work
In other news
Characters I never wish to face in ARAM again
-Sivir
-Taric
-Lux
-Vocal-
Smash Hero
Sorry for double posting, had the thread open in multiple tabs and forgot I had just posted
Backward arrow too strong.