Grand Old Thread: League of Legends!

[DMG]

^lol


Also, what graphics settings do most people play on? I just updated my video drivers for the first time in like 5 years, so I was able to switch from "very low" to "high".
HOLY **** THERE IS SO MUCH GOING ON
It seems hard to tell what's going on in a fight with all the effects, but maybe i would get used to it. Is it ok to play on the higher settings or should I go back to low?

I used to play on a laptop that had no mouse, and could never go past 10 FPS on the lowest, calmest settings. Anything strenuous put my FPS at close to or at 1 lol.

Then I got a desktop that runs everything highest settings 60 FPS or higher consistently and I fell in love. I was able to see detail on attacks and champs finally!

right, and then they made deathcap and hourglass, further homogenizing AP builds into rushing for Deathcap.

Well to be fair, they didn't really invent anything "new" per se. They just split Z ring into 2 different items. That didn't change much for people besides letting them stack AP more efficiently and quicker.

 

[KevinM]

First off, I'll hit you up whenever I feel like it!

Second, I'm at work... Definitely did not hit you up.

Mayhaz sum1 hak meh acct?!11Eleventeen!

I will forever have my shrine of you up <3

 

[PhantomX]

You don't even need to throw bait for the wild Kleeck to be slain.

 

[jpak]

mpen is better early game, and mp% late game. guise provides hp early game which is something you want but its far from the item it was before with CDR. HP is good early game and you want that on your carries. For example, if you build trinity force, you want to get ruby -> mana -> sheen, not just go straight sheen. You can tell me top players go sheen first ... But they are doing it wrong. The same way with how many corkis like locodoco do not get IE. IE is necessary to be a real ranged AD carry except for like Sivir.

If your team is heavy armor pen, then the team wil likely not build MR or a lot of MR so just stick to flat MPEN. Just gotta adjust.

Then again if you are going to stack flat mpen in your runes(glyphs, quints, marks) and then get sorc shoes, and then they get some MR. Your build is kind of messed up because you should have got swiftness or merc instead and then just go void staff. This brings up the point where you should adjust your runes according to the opponent, something no one does.

 

[Jazriel]

It really isn't that complicated. I'm stunned that you people don't know such simple things. Has no one done the math on their own to understand that CDR means more damage in longer fights? The only thing noteworthy from that CDR vs AP graph is the time it takes for them to overlap: 5 seconds. If a fight is going to last 5 or more seconds, CDR gives you more damage.


If you people don't know these simple things, how do you play this game? Maybe this is why idiots like Dekar think rushing Deathcap on Lux is a good strat compared to itemizing for both AP and CDR.


Next non-issue that's going to pop up on this forum is how raw health is superiour to EHP if it's below 2000 or greater than 3000.

 

[Duff0]

Dekar builds nothing but gunblades.

Lots of them

 

[PhantomX]

Moakai's ultimate is going to make him really really good for push teams.

 

[Wobbles]

You should calm down Jazriel.

Just sayin'.

 

[Dekar173]

I wild Kleeck has appeared!

*throws bait*


"An enemy has been slain."

Implying Kleeck is on the opposing team.



@debate- it's already been hit on the head, build void staff if your opponents look like they're going to be getting MR, build HG if you're just focusing on their squishies (and those squishies have 0 survivability).

This is only for burst, as when you unload everything on someone, you want all of your skills to do the optimal amount of damage.



As for what Jazriel's saying, CdR is character dependent. Lux? CdR is great, as she's a poke hero and a half, and her shield is amazing.

Kennen? Stack nothing but AP for that teamfight viability, and get your hourglass because you're getting focused like a mother****er the instant that ult is down.



Who wins poke battles late game, your team, or theirs? Build accordingly.

 

[DUB]

Any advice on how to build Teemo?
I couldn't resist getting Astronaut Teemo... Just too cute.

A friend of mine who mains Teemo swears that skin literally makes Teemo better. He said back when he first bought it he could tell the attack animation was a little bit quicker. I don't have the skin and I dont play as Teemo so I dont know. I doubt it's true but, could be.

 

[Plum]

I've fallen in love with AP Teemo.
My natural instinct with him was to try to build an AD Teemo, but after a game or two I realized I was just building a bad Siver/Ashe/Or other good AD range.

Once I went AP I saw an immediate improvement. tHaving 30 or so shrooms at any and every choke point is great, and when they are each doing several hundred points it becomes dangerous for any squishie to even walk around.

I don't know if it's really worth it to take Teleport at the end of the day though. I really love the mobility you get by going to any mushroom, but I don't know if it's worth passing up over other spells.

 

[Frolossus]

they are probably releasing a new kat skin soon based on the maokai art spotlight thing
can't wait! :3

 

[Jazriel]

You should calm down Jazriel.

Just sayin'.

I'm not upset. I'm just amazed at the stupidity and gall of people on the internet. People who have protection and unaccountability due to the anonymity and meaninglessness of it all.

Dekar seems to have changed his tune, he argued that deathcap first (by 22 min) was superiour on Lux rather than building her my way; a solid mid-game poker with a strong end-game.

And in the end, no one cares. Dekar is as meaningless as my disbelief. I just played a particularly bad game, where the understanding that almost all of the people who play this game are ****ing ******* was really driven home. People on SWF and TL talk and act like they know how to play this game. They believe that because they can namedrop or win some games with friends they know it all.

But when it really comes down to it, they don't even know the math behind the game. Or what strategy is really like. It's just a bunch of blind scrubs leading other blind scrubs.

The maddening meaninglessness of it all just makes me bored.

 

[jpak]

I'm not upset. I'm just amazed at the stupidity and gall of people on the internet. People who have protection and unaccountability due to the anonymity and meaninglessness of it all.

Dekar seems to have changed his tune, he argued that deathcap first (by 22 min) was superiour on Lux rather than building her my way; a solid mid-game poker with a strong end-game.

And in the end, no one cares. Dekar is as meaningless as my disbelief. I just played a particularly bad game, where the understanding that almost all of the people who play this game are ****ing ******* was really driven home. People on SWF and TL talk and act like they know how to play this game. They believe that because they can namedrop or win some games with friends they know it all.

But when it really comes down to it, they don't even know the math behind the game. Or what strategy is really like. It's just a bunch of blind scrubs leading other blind scrubs.

The maddening meaninglessness of it all just makes me bored.

So what makes you know the game? Oh and math is like a very small part, if you math most ap champs you can make them look real OP http://www.leagueoflegends.com/board/showthread.php?t=444788

 

[Frolossus]

I'm not upset. I'm just amazed at the stupidity and gall of people on the internet. People who have protection and unaccountability due to the anonymity and meaninglessness of it all.

Dekar seems to have changed his tune, he argued that deathcap first (by 22 min) was superiour on Lux rather than building her my way; a solid mid-game poker with a strong end-game.

And in the end, no one cares. Dekar is as meaningless as my disbelief. I just played a particularly bad game, where the understanding that almost all of the people who play this game are ****ing ******* was really driven home. People on SWF and TL talk and act like they know how to play this game. They believe that because they can namedrop or win some games with friends they know it all.

But when it really comes down to it, they don't even know the math behind the game. Or what strategy is really like. It's just a bunch of blind scrubs leading other blind scrubs.

The maddening meaninglessness of it all just makes me bored.

more-so on TL then here several people do in fact know a lot about this game, considering the number of people that are 1600+ here and there proves that they are doing something right and are qualified to share their knowledge

edit: unrelated to the above but a good read anyways
http://www.leagueoflegends.com/board/showthread.php?t=505477

 

[Jazriel]

more-so on TL then here several people do in fact know a lot about this game, considering the number of people that are 1600+ here and their proves that they are doing something right and are qualified to share their knowledge

I bolded all the logical fallacies. Please, continue.

 

[Frolossus]

I bolded all the logical fallacies. Please, continue.

lemme fix it then

more-so on TL then here several people do in fact know a lot about this game, many of these people have consistently been in the top 1000 or better for most of the life of this game.
why are you criticizing the credibility and validity of their posts and ideas?

 

[Virgilijus]

Jazriel, if you are just coming here to stir up trouble and can't debate without flaming and trolling, it's going to be a problem.

Anyone that responds in kind will face similar repercussions.

Continue.

 

[-Vocal-]

It really isn't that complicated. I'm stunned that you people don't know such simple things. Has no one done the math on their own to understand that CDR means more damage in longer fights? The only thing noteworthy from that CDR vs AP graph is the time it takes for them to overlap: 5 seconds. If a fight is going to last 5 or more seconds, CDR gives you more damage.


If you people don't know these simple things, how do you play this game? Maybe this is why idiots like Dekar think rushing Deathcap on Lux is a good strat compared to itemizing for both AP and CDR.


Next non-issue that's going to pop up on this forum is how raw health is superiour to EHP if it's below 2000 or greater than 3000.

Wait, rushing Deathcap isn't good?

;_;

I'd really like to know what a proper build is, if you don't mind. I love the Lady of Luminosity and I'm making her as close to a main as you can have in this game. I don't need anymore cooldown; with Ionian boots, masteries, runes, and a blue elixir I hit 39% and that's because I'm missing one rune. My build right now is

Meki and 2 HP Pots (Or Faerie Charm + HP Pots + other items if I essentially need something like a ward for Eve)
Boots and Tear
Ionian Boots
Blasting Wand > Deathcap

And from there I usually build Void Staff, or an Abyssal if there's a mage screwing with me. Possibly upgrade to AA if it seems like Tear is full enough to warrant the bonus (which I seem to remember being 1500 mana for some reason, but I usually wait til at least 2000).

What should I change?

 

[Dekar173]

No, just after a few games playing with what I'd consider "the best Lux I've personally played with" I've noticed that the ABSOLUTELY 100% most effective way to play her is poke/support.

You can't poke with long cooldowns, but likewise you can't burst with low AP. Then again, her burst isn't spectacular, so you've gotta build her according to her strengths.



****riel- please stop being a **** in your posts to absolutely everyone ever. There's a reason you were banned from TL

 

[GOD!]

at least he's intelligent when he posts.

dekar also said get haunting guise when squishies have no survivability. LOOOOOOL
like thats a dumb thing to say. every champ has survivability or can buy it or have it given to them. So you should sell your guise once they hit level 7 or 8 and buy banshees or ga?
maybe instead of telling him to calm down you should listen to what he says.

 

[Tom]

Hai guys. It's me.

KLEEECK WHAT IS UPPPP

It really isn't that complicated. I'm stunned that you people don't know such simple things. Has no one done the math on their own to understand that CDR means more damage in longer fights? The only thing noteworthy from that CDR vs AP graph is the time it takes for them to overlap: 5 seconds. If a fight is going to last 5 or more seconds, CDR gives you more damage.


If you people don't know these simple things, how do you play this game? Maybe this is why idiots like Dekar think rushing Deathcap on Lux is a good strat compared to itemizing for both AP and CDR.


Next non-issue that's going to pop up on this forum is how raw health is superiour to EHP if it's below 2000 or greater than 3000.

I'm not upset. I'm just amazed at the stupidity and gall of people on the internet. People who have protection and unaccountability due to the anonymity and meaninglessness of it all.

Dekar seems to have changed his tune, he argued that deathcap first (by 22 min) was superiour on Lux rather than building her my way; a solid mid-game poker with a strong end-game.

And in the end, no one cares. Dekar is as meaningless as my disbelief. I just played a particularly bad game, where the understanding that almost all of the people who play this game are ****ing ******* was really driven home. People on SWF and TL talk and act like they know how to play this game. They believe that because they can namedrop or win some games with friends they know it all.

But when it really comes down to it, they don't even know the math behind the game. Or what strategy is really like. It's just a bunch of blind scrubs leading other blind scrubs.

The maddening meaninglessness of it all just makes me bored.

you mad.....

 

[Dekar173]

at least he's intelligent when he posts.

dekar also said get haunting guise when squishies have no survivability. LOOOOOOL
like thats a dumb thing to say. every champ has survivability or can buy it or have it given to them. So you should sell your guise once they hit level 7 or 8 and buy banshees or ga?
maybe instead of telling him to calm down you should listen to what he says.

Calm down inbred this is the LoL thread not the ****ride thread.

 

[Jazriel]

No, just after a few games playing with what I'd consider "the best Lux I've personally played with" I've noticed that the ABSOLUTELY 100% most effective way to play her is poke/support.

You can't poke with long cooldowns, but likewise you can't burst with low AP. Then again, her burst isn't spectacular, so you've gotta build her according to her strengths.



****riel- please stop being a **** in your posts to absolutely everyone ever. There's a reason you were banned from TL

Oh, so you're saying the best Lux you've ever played with had an understanding and build of her that was EXACTLY the same as mine? A mere 980 ELO scrub? Please Dekar, since it's so easy to gain rank in a meta no one cares about, please explain to me why you were wrong to begin with. I'd love to hear it.

Flaming dumb people aside: Virgilijus, every post I make is a subtle attempt to promote discussion. Most people however aren't intelligent enough to pick up on it. Which is why I was banned from TL. Which is also why I do it, to personally distinguish the smart from the dumb.




Personal plugs aside; Lux. I've already written posts about how I build her and some of my theorycrafting on her. I've done a lot of testing prompted by this thread to ensure I have the absolute correct information so I can disprove dumb people who think they know more about this game than I do simply because I trolled my ELO to below 1k.

Basically there are 3 ways to build Lux. 1 is novelty and bad, the other is niche and fills a specific role, and the other is good.

Novelty build is early sheen (or sheen at all for that matter). It's not good. It's a cute way to do early/mid-game DPS and does nothing else. Lichbane isn't that good and unless you can snipe some kills with Sheen procs you won't have enough gold to itemize into a proper AP/CDR build.

The niche role is DC first. This does one thing and one thing only: It gives you a lot of damage in the mid-game. You can get a DC by 17-22 minutes, and will give you around 230 AP. This is a viable niche build, because mid-game damage is something that is extremely important in this game (and something overlooked by pretty much everyone). The downside is that you won't have the mana, cdr, or utility towards the late-game that a proper build would do.

I haven't played Lux in a while. I find that once I get very good with a support hero I'm let down by not being able to find someone who can play a carry on a level that can keep up with my support, so I usually jump to carries or simpler roles (Veigar is pretty fun). However my personal build keeps these things in mind:

-Tear is necessary to maintain spell output mid/late-game.
-CDR early game can be hard to work with due to mana issues.
-DFG is good.
-CDR Runes are horrible.
-Mejai's is inconsistent.
-RAges is horrible.
-Ionian boots are core, and gave Lux the flexibility in itemization and rune/mastery specs she needed.
-Ghost is pointless
-Flash is core
-Teleport is good. I really like running teleport. It also gives you an incredible early-game counter gank, due to your shield and CC


There're more points I have, but I can't remember them.
Avarice quints
Crit reds
MP5/lvl yellows
AP/lvl blues

Dring
If harass is strong, a second dring + boots1
Else boots1 + kage
tear if you're being spammy with shield + e, otherwise codex then tear
DFG
At any point before this you can finish boots2 if you feel you need the ms/cdr/have money to burn
AA or NLR

Pew pew lasers. Also, 1 point in Q at level 4 and don't touch it again. Could also get it at level 3 depending. Open shield first.

[Edit] With the new Mana Regen changes all of this might be subject to change. Veigar was playable due to Locket, then was rendered complete garbage when it was removed. Now with the Mana Regen changes, Veigar is viable again because he can open dshield. Something similar might be applicable to Lux, I don't know.

 

[Teh Brettster]

I -love- being subscribed to drama. Sigh .... I'll check back next week, I guess.

 

[Dekar173]

@Jaz- you will never, ever, EVER run into good teams in low ELO.

 

[Jazriel]

@Jaz- you will never, ever, EVER run into good teams in low ELO.

Are you trying to put forth a tautology as an argument? Because that would be dumb.

Or are you trying to infer that I cannot fight good people? Because that is also dumb since this game isn't all about ranked.

Or are you trying to infer that there is somehow some correlation between ELO and individual skill? Which is also dumb because solo ranked is a lottery.

So, you're dumb? I already knew that Dekar. How kind of you for bringing it up though. Next.

 

[Frolossus]

Which is also dumb because solo ranked is a lottery.

how so?
it just requires a different skill set then premades

 

[PhantomX]

Pretty sure a large part of the reason that Jaz is having difficulty encountering success with teams in LoL (though it's true there are many, MANY bad players) is his lack of interpersonal skills. Antagonizing everyone accomplishes nothing.

 

[F8AL]

Jazriel, settle down. You've already been verbally warned by Virg.

There is no need to call another member an "idiot."

 

[ruin`]

i LOVE this guy jazriel. He's like the kid in elementary school that goes "i know u are but what am I?"

gawd, im so jealous

 

[Dekar173]

@Jaz- at low elo, there is no teamwork, and the players are bad, you aren't going to argue this away because this is fact. The people are at low ELO because they are not as good as people 300-400 ELO higher than them.

Are you still playing LoL? Yes. Are you playing at a top level? No.



As for solo queue being a lottery, this may be true BUT the players are still going to be similarly matched skill-wise.

 

[jpak]

Are you trying to put forth a tautology as an argument? Because that would be dumb.

Or are you trying to infer that I cannot fight good people? Because that is also dumb since this game isn't all about ranked.

Or are you trying to infer that there is somehow some correlation between ELO and individual skill? Which is also dumb because solo ranked is a lottery.

So, you're dumb? I already knew that Dekar. How kind of you for bringing it up though. Next.

Is arranged 5s a lottery too? Start playing 5s where there aren't "solo queue idiots" on your team, and prove to us your skill . Or sign up for a tournament www.nationalesl.com

 

[GOD!]

Calm down inbred this is the LoL thread not the cockride thread.

wow youre an idiot

lol i guess this guy doesnt get warned cause hes a mod

red name op

 

[Virgilijus]

All ready infracted those that didn't heed the warning.

Break it again and most likely temp bans will soon follow. There is no need to insult people; if you want to argue a point, argue the point.

 

[Mogwai]

I just carried a game on my smurf with annie where I opened sorc shoes + haunting guise and later sold them for void + mercs, get at me.

 

[Shaya]

Ultimate Malhazar Build:

3 Dorans
Boots
Sorc Boots
Sell 1 dorans > Haunting Guise

 

[GOD!]

All ready infracted those that didn't heed the warning.

Break it again and most likely temp bans will soon follow. There is no need to insult people; if you want to argue a point, argue the point.

LOL I got warned when he called me an inbred and told me I was "****riding"

Oh man ****ing mods are too good. free insults and then when u respond u get warned LOLOLOLOL

yeah i went ad soraka the other day and went 13-3. wow ad soraka must be good

 

[S l o X]

@Jaz- at low elo, there is no teamwork, and the players are bad, you aren't going to argue this away because this is fact. The people are at low ELO because they are not as good as people 300-400 ELO higher than them.

my last few 1200 games have consisted of a stupid amount of wards and teamwork, although at this elo nobody has any idea about team comp and noone cares. :/ (there's probably like <100 people who do)

 

[Jazriel]

All ready infracted those that didn't heed the warning.

Break it again and most likely temp bans will soon follow. There is no need to insult people; if you want to argue a point, argue the point.

Time to see if the SWF mods are better than the useless, unintelligent, and immature mods over at TL.


Also, opening dsheild on casters now is pro. Dshield imba.