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Goddess buffs in patch 1.1.4!!!

Are you satisfied with the buffs Palutena has received in patch 1.1.4?

  • Yes

    Votes: 4 9.1%
  • No

    Votes: 31 70.5%
  • Neutral

    Votes: 9 20.5%

  • Total voters
    44

PHP

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I'm making this thread ahead of time for our one and only beautiful goddess of light Palutena.

This thread is for Palutena buffs and only Palutena buffs.

Even if someone accidentally reports placebo please just correct them and move on. Please refrain for bashing people for mistakes, nobody is perfect.

If you have the ability to accurately count frames please make it know to everyone.

Let's enjoy our new and improved goddess! :D

Bayonetta < Palutena
 
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Eisal

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Sorry if I'm late to the party, but has anything been seen with Palutena at all yet?

Can't vote just yet then, but I hope this thread will report a lot of stuff for her.
 

PHP

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Sorry if I'm late to the party, but has anything been seen with Palutena at all yet?

Can't vote just yet then, but I hope this thread will report a lot of stuff for her.
The patch hasn't happened yet, BUT WHEN IT DOES you know I'm going to be the first one in the lab =]
 

Eisal

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The patch hasn't happened yet, BUT WHEN IT DOES you know I'm going to be the first one in the lab =]
I hope you have everything recorded pre-patch then!

All the moves tested on Mario. All the tilts, all the aerials, all the specials, all the smashes. Speed and damage, movement speed and fall speed!

Then compare that recorded snip to Palutena when the patch hits!
 

sjb.dario

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Lmao. These preemptive votes tho.

It's all or nothing guys. Let's see if lady fortune will be on our side this patch.
 

kamus_aran

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Yeah, she seems unchanged to me regarding to frame data
 
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Rran

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Even though I voted before the patch released, I am satisfied with my "no" vote :|
 

kamus_aran

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Perhaps it's my imagination but it looks like her u-smash's hitbox is a bit bigger?
 

Dinoman96

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Can't say I'm surprised one bit.

Well, my friends, unless by some miracle the competitive scene for this game reconsiders its position on custom moves or atleast make an exception for Palutena, I'm afraid that's it as far as competitive Smash 4 is for our goddess. It's been well over a year since the release of this game and they have done barely anything about Palutena to get her out of the gutter she's been in in this custom-less meta.

Shameful. Well, hopefully when the next game comes around, Sakurai (or whoever's directing it by that point) realizes that designing a character around a peripheral feature that ended up being banned wasn't the smartest of ideas. But other than that, all we can do now is hope for a Project M-esque mod to come along and fix this mess.
 

sjb.dario

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Lol, welp. No buffs here I guess lmao

Back to training mode I go. I wasn't in dire need for her to get buffed anyway :p
 

Wonkit

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We wanted a subpar f-tilt anyway. . .
 
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Xenami

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No buffs? And people accuse Sakurai of being biased
 

sjb.dario

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Well, we can always look at the bright side.
Palutena didn't get nerfed.
.........Right? :p
 

PHP

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I checked every single move and the checked the framedata a I can report it looks like forward tilt got an angle change? Other than that... nothing... absolutely nothing has changed. I didn't compare run speeds though. I can thoroughly say I a definitely unsatisfied with the sheer lack of buffs, because it means she's getting nerfed indirectly matchup wise. Maybe the KBG and BKB are different well have to see when the patch notes for patch 1.1.4 comes out. How could they possibly overlook this character? I mean, do they not see the sheer amount of lag on several of her moves compared with other light weight characters and her under average damage output? If they were going to make her frame data this bad they could at LEAST give her a default set the supports her like 2123 and not a hyperdefensive 1111 set that's extremely slow that can't even wall projectile based characters

Palutena buffs:
Forward tilt: links better now, still ****, seems to have an angle adjustment or KB adjustment, did I mention it's still ****?
Evidence: it hits twice (on pit) at 140+
 
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MysteriousSilver

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I'm so done with this

I don't even have a witty comment.

This character had been bad from day 1 and hasn't gotten any better. I don't know what the balance team is smoking.

Screw this. I'm salt as hell.
 

PHP

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I'm so done with this

I don't even have a witty comment.

This character had been bad from day 1 and hasn't gotten any better. I don't know what the balance team is smoking.

Screw this. I'm salt as hell.
I've been salt Hell since patch 1.1.2
 

Dinoman96

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I'm so done with this

I don't even have a witty comment.

This character had been bad from day 1 and hasn't gotten any better. I don't know what the balance team is smoking.

Screw this. I'm salt as hell.
Whatever they're smoking seems to make them think that everyone on the planet uses custom moves, it looks like.
 
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PHP

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Well guys look on the bright side, now that DLC is over all of the upcoming patches are going to be character based. We can expect the most buffs then in 2~4 months when patch 1.1.5 drops. I'm looking forward to it (^_^ ), so please don't drop Palutena...speaking of dropping Palutena does that mean AeroLink_the_SoulMaster AeroLink_the_SoulMaster is going to be the Bayonetta mod and not the Palutena mod now?
 
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CreatureComforts

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I checked every single move and the checked the framedata a I can report it looks like forward tilt got an angle change? Other than that... nothing... absolutely nothing has changed. I didn't compare run speeds though. I can thoroughly say I a definitely unsatisfied with the sheer lack of buffs, because it means she's getting nerfed indirectly matchup wise. Maybe the KBG and BKB are different well have to see when the patch notes for patch 1.1.4 comes out. How could they possibly overlook this character? I mean, do they not see the sheer amount of lag on several of her moves compared with other light weight characters and her under average damage output? If they were going to make her frame data this bad they could at LEAST give her a default set the supports her like 2123 and not a hyperdefensive 1111 set that's extremely slow that can't even wall projectile based characters
I have no problem with Palutena being hyperdefensive. It's just that having so many laggy, extremely punishable moves kind of defeats the purpose of having all that defense.
 

AeroLink_the_SoulMaster

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Well guys look on the bright side, now that DLC is over all of the upcoming patches are going to be character based. We can expect the most buffs then in 2~4 months when patch 1.1.5 drops. I'm looking forward to it (^_^ ), so please don't drop Palutena...speaking of dropping Palutena does that mean AeroLink_the_SoulMaster AeroLink_the_SoulMaster is going to be the Bayonetta mod and not the Palutena mod now?
I'm still a mod of the Palutena boards, and I'm already a mod of the Bayonetta boards.
 

wpwood

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We've been making due with what we have, so there's no reason to drop the character now. Palutena just feels right to me, and I can't play any other character the way I play her.
 

sjb.dario

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The meltdown was real lmao.

Anyways, I ain't dropping her myself. I still think she's more than viable and has plenty of potential to be a good fighter (yes, even without the buffs). So, it's gonna be awhile till I even consider switching.
 

C3CC

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Her Counter needs a buff URGENTLY. It's freaking useless and using it is not really worth it. I can never kill anyone with it.
 
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