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Glitch 7 - Minus World - Discussion Thread

KirbySquad101

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Here are le Standings for Glitch 7, the next S Tier event coming up (brackets indicate the character is a secondary):

1. Samsora :ultpeach:
2. Tweek :ultpokemontrainerf::ultwario:
3. Nairo :ultpalutena::ultzss:(:ultrobin:)
4. Dabuz :ultolimar::ultrosalina:
5. Light :ultfox:(:ultjoker::ultfalco:?)
6. ESAM :ultpikachu:
7. Dark Wizzy :ultmario:
8. WaDi :ultrob:(:ultwiifittrainerm::ultmewtwo:)
9. Puppeh :ultpokemontrainerf:
10. Cosmos :ultinkling:
11. LeoN :ultbowser:(:ultgnw:?)
12. Rivers :ultchrom:(:ultdiddy:)
13. Stroder :ultroy:(:ultmario::ultluigi::ultfalco::ultgreninja:) (DQ)
14. yeti :ultmegaman:
15. Salem :ultsnake::ulthero: (:ultshulk:)
16. Elegant :ultluigi: (DQ)
17. MVD :ultsnake:
18. VoiD :ultsheik: :ultjoker:(:ultpichu:)
19. Goblin :ultroy:
20. Jakal :ultwolf:(:ultsonic:?)
21. Lui$ :ultfox:(:ultmario:)
22. BestNess :ultness:(:ultpalutena:)
23. BlazingPasta :ultpeach:
24. Wishes :ultjoker::ultpokemontrainerf:
25. MuteAce :ultpeach:
26. Mr E :ultlucina:
27. Suarez :ultyoshi:
28. Juice :ultfalco::ultzss:
29. Fatality :ultfalcon:
30. Sinji :ultpacman:(:ultgnw:)
31. Gen :ultpalutena: (:ultken:)
32. LingLing :ultpeach:
33. Ismon:ultwario:(:ultfalco:)
34. Sandstorm :ultryu::ultken:
35. 8BitMan :ultrob:(:ultdiddy:)
36. ZD :ultfox:(:ultroy:)
37. Frozen :ultpalutena:
38. Sonido :ultsonic:(:ultsnake:?)
39. Squerk :ultyoshi:
40. Kofi :ultfalco:(:ultgnw:)
41. Dill :ultrob:
42. Xzax :ultinkling:
43. Vinny G :ultsnake:
44. Deluxemenu :ultbowser:
45. Benny&TheJets :ultrob:
46. Seagull Joe :ultpalutena::ultyounglink::ultwolf:
47. Adastran :ultwiifittrainer:
48. Biddy :ultyounglink:
49. Dazai :ultroy:
50. Dexter :ultwolf:
51. SAUCE :ultmario:
52. Lucky :ultpiranha:
53. JeBB :ultpalutena:
54. colinies :ultyounglink:(:ultroy:?)
55. Raptor :ultyoshi:
56. Mata-Door :ultwario:
57. Stocktaker69 :ultwolf:(:ultvillager:)
58. Odyssey :ultfox:
59. burntsocks :ultyoshi:
60. Mekos :ultlucas:
61. Geist :ultbayonetta:
62. Dusty_Carpet :ultshulk:
63. Young Eevey :ultbowserjr:
64. Sabo :ultsnake:(:ultgreninja::ultroy:)
65. Dietsoda :ultcloud:
66. SMB :ultluigi:
67. Pink Fresh :ultzss:
68. FROOT :ultpalutena:
69. ram :ultsnake:
70. CORONA17 :ultchrom::ultwolf:
71. Tengu :ultlucina:
72. JLim :ultsnake:
73. Beast :ultpokemontrainerf:
74. 6WX :ultsonic::ultincineroar:
75. File :ultbowser:
76. Xerom :ultness:
77. Roxas :ultjoker:
78. Tension :ultpikachu:
79. Static :ultbowser:
80. DiZ :ultpiranha::ultkingdedede:
81. Disgaea :ultgnw:
82. Joe-J :ultsnake:
83. Ketchup :ultbowserjr:
84. Snorley :ultwario:
85. Blank :ultchrom:
86. DevvyStar :ultisabelle:
87. Wal00gi :ultsnake:
88. excalibur! :ulthero::ultinkling:
89. Ridae :ultpikachu:
90. NickRiddle :ultbowser:
 
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Tweek seems to be using a mix of :ultbanjokazooie: and :ultpokemontrainerf: judging from his sets that were streamed so far. Banjo is obviously more interesting because this is the first major that has him allowed but PT > Wario is also interesting as Tweek used mostly Wario at his last major (Shine).
 

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Disgaea (81st seed) :ultgnw: 2-0s Biddy :ultyounglink: (48th seed)

EDIT: Bully :ultlink: 2-?s LingLing :ultpeach: to make it to Top 96 on the Winner’s Side.
 
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KirbySquad101

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MuteAce :ultpeach: is out at 97th after losing to Rideae :ultpikachu: in Pool’s Loser’s Finals. Apparently his R Button was broken down so he had to play without a shield button.
 

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Alo! sends both Raptor:ultyoshi: and 6WX:ultsonic: to loser's.

The two upsetted players did fight in loser's, with 6WX coming on top, knocking Raptor out of the tournament in pools.
 

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Here is the top 96 winner's side in Glitch 7.

Pool H1
Samsora:ultpeach: vs Bully:ultlink:
Dazai:ultroy: vs MVD:ultsnake:
WaDi:ultrob: vs Kofi:ultfalco:
Cosmos:ultinkling: vs Wishes:ultjoker:


Pool H2
Tweek:ultbanjokazooie::ultpokemontrainerf: vs Gen:ultpalutena:
yeti:ultmegaman: vs VoiD:ultsheik:?
Puppeh:ultpokemontrainerf: vs Mr E:ultlucina:
Dark Wizzy:ultmario: vs BlazingPasta:ultpeach:


Pool I1
Nairo:ultpalutena: vs Sinji:ultpacman:
Salem:ultsnake::ulthero: vs Goblin:ultroy:
ESAM:ultpikachu: vs Suarez:ultyoshi:
LeoN:ultbowser: vs Vinny G:ultsnake:


Pool I2
Dabuz:ultolimar::ultrosalina: vs Fatality:ultfalcon:
Lucky:ultpiranha: vs JaKaL:ultwolf:
Light:ultfox: vs Frozen:ultpalutena:
Rivers:ultchrom: vs Lui$:ultfox::ultmario:


Notable Players in Loser's
Logic:ultolimar: (Pool H1)
LingLing:ultpeach: (Pool H1)
Mata-Door:ultwario: (Pool H1)
Stocktaker69:ultwolf::ultvillager: (Pool H1)
Biddy:ultyounglink: (Pool H1)
Rideae:ultpikachu: (Pool H1)
Xzax:ultinkling: (Pool H2)
Sandstorm:ultryu::ultken: (Pool H2)
Young Eevey:ultlarry: (Pool H2)
Odyssey:ultfox: (Pool H2)
6WX:ultsonic::ultincineroar: (Pool H2)
Dexter:ultwolf: (Pool H2)
BestNess:ultness::ultpalutena: (Pool I1)
colinies:ultyounglink: (Pool I1)
Sonido:ultsonic: (Pool I1)
8BitMan:ultrob: (Pool I1)
Seagull Joe:ultwolf::ultpalutena: (Pool I1)
Pink Fresh:ultzss: (Pool I1)
Blank:ultchrom: (Pool I2)
ZD:ultfox: (Pool I2)
Benny&TheJets:ultrob: (Pool I2)
Juice:ultfalco::ultzss: (Pool I2)
Mekos:ultlucas: (Pool I2)
Ismon:ultwario: (Pool I2)
Ralphie:ultwolf: (Pool I2)
Geist:ultbayonetta1: (Pool I2)
DeluxeMenu:ultbowser: (Pool I2)



In the winner's side: Bully:ultlink:, Dazai:ultroy:, Kofi:ultfalco:, JaKaL:ultwolf:, and Lucky:ultpiranha: are the wild card picks.

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Btw, Tweek:ultbanjokazooie: Nairo:ultpalutena: takes Glitch 7 doubles. Tweek definitely showing off the character's potential in doubles.
 
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I compiled a tier list where the amount of mains/secondaries are listed. I'm incredibly late :(
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(If the link doesn't work, or I got something wrong, let me know. )
 
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Samsora:ultpeach: 2-1 Bully:ultlink:
Not a surprising result, but he took a game, so that is cool.

Stocktaker69:ultwolf: 2-1 Biddy:ultyounglink:
This eliminates Biddy at 65th place.

Young Eevey:ultlarry: 2-0 Xzax:ultinkling:
This eliminates Xzax at 65th place.

SMB (Scot!):ultluigi: 2-1 6WX:ultsonic:
This eliminates 6WX at 49th place.

Dexter:ultwolf: 2-0 BlazingPasta:ultpeach:
This eliminates BP at 33rd place.
 

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Apparently, there was actually 2 :ultlink:s in Top 96, Sova Unknown being the second, but he lost to Young Eevey :ultbowserjr: in Loser's, eliminating him at 49th place.

BlazingPasta :ultpeach: and Adastran :ultwiifittrainer: are also out at 33rd and 49th respectively against Dexter :ultwolf:.
 
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Wishes:ultjoker: 2-1 Cosmos:ultinkling:

SMB:ultluigi: 2-0 Puppeh:ultpokemontrainerf: to eliminate him at 33rd place.
 
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Wishes :ultjoker: 2-1 over Cosmos :ultinkling:, knocking Cosmos into Losers bracket.
 

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VoiD:ultsheik: 2-1 yeti:ultmegaman:

This was a close one. Not sure if yeti knew exactly how to fight against Sheik in this game (almost no one plays Sheik in Ultimate), but still a good win for VoiD nevertheless.
Now he is about to fight Tweek, so we will see how well that will go.

Edit: SMB:ultluigi: 3-1 Dexter:ultwolf: eliminating him at 25th place.
 
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Breaking news:

Young Eevey:ultlarry: 2-1 yeti:ultmegaman: to eliminate him at 33rd place.

yeti is not having it with these lower tiered characters today.
 

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This is the second time Cosmos :ultinkling: 3-0's MVD :ultsnake: (eliminating him at 17th). Snake really has trouble with this MU.
 

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This is the second time Cosmos :ultinkling: 3-0's MVD :ultsnake: (eliminating him at 17th). Snake really has trouble with this MU.
How did these two end up fighting this early in the bracket?

But yeah, I can see Inkling being one of Snake's more problematic matchups.
 
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Mr E is scheduled to face the winner of Young Eevey and Gen.
Can :ultlarry: strike lightning twice? I'm not sure if Gen faced a competent Jr. yet. I wanna watch the set :D
 

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WaDi :ultrob: 3-2s Wishes :ultjoker: to make into Top 16 Winner's, while Dark Wizzy :ultmario: 3-1s Mr E :ultlucina: to get into there as well.

What I'm still curious about is how Sonido ended up fighting Saurez so early (they were in the same pools for some reason).
 

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Querty 2-1 Frozen:ultpalutena:, eliminating him at 65th place.

Edit: Hawk 2-1 colinies:ultyounglink:, which eliminates both YLink players of this event at 65th place.
 
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How did these two end up fighting this early in the bracket?

But yeah, I can see Inkling being one of Snake's more problematic matchups.
Cosmos got upset against Wishes which sent him into the lower end of the bracket. MVD was originally projected to go up against the latter.
 
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Well Young Eevey didn’t get to upset Gen after all...Eevey’s eliminated at 25th.
Good stuff though regardless!
 

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BestNess:ultness: 2-0 Goblin:ultroy: to eliminate him at 33rd place.
SAUCE 2-1 Seagull Joe:ultwolf: to eliminate him at 49th place.
Mekos:ultlucas: 2-0 Fatality:ultfalcon: to eliminate him at 33rd place.
VoiD:ultsheik: 3-1 SMB:ultluigi: to eliminate him at 17th place. VoiD moves on top 16 loser's side.
 
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That LeoN vs Vinny G set was real close.Especily that comeback LeoN made in game 2 G was smart on using gernades to get out of Flying Slam.

But LeoN doing what he does best. Taking MU's where you woukd think Bowser will be horrible at at pulling though.
 

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Lui$:ultfox: 2-1 Rivers:ultchrom:

Lui$ has been on a rampage these past few major tournaments.
 
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Ismon:ultwario::ultfalco: (Not sure who he used) 2-0 Rivers:ultchrom:

This means that both the best Roy (Goblin) and the best Chrom (Rivers) are both out at 33rd place.
 

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BestNess:ultness: 2-0 Goblin:ultroy: to eliminate him at 33rd place.
SAUCE 2-1 Seagull Joe:ultwolf: to eliminate him at 49th place.
Mekos:ultlucas: 2-0 Fatality:ultfalcon: to eliminate him at 33rd place.
VoiD:ultsheik: 3-1 SMB:ultluigi: to eliminate him at 17th place. VoiD moves on top 16 loser's side.
SAUCE usually play Mario (if it's the player I think of)

And here we have another tournament where a so-called low-tier player gets into Top 32 while players that are PGR-rated and play a top-tier are out (much) earlier.
Kinda makes me think again that tiers don't really existz in Ultimate or the deifferences between the tiers is really miniscule, except a few exceptions.
 
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Kinda makes me think again that tiers don't really existz in Ultimate or the deifferences between the tiers is really miniscule, except a few exceptions.
There will always be some mathematically discernable difference between characters, regardless of if you are talking about results, popularity, or theory.

It's just a matter of different magnitudes, except that anything can become the new normal, the new frame of reference--and our language shifts to match the moving goal posts.

Melee Kirby is "terrible". Brawl Ganon is "terrible". Smash 4 Puff is "terrible". Ultimate K. Rool is "terrible".

All four of those "terribles" mean wildly different things, mathematically.
 

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Glitch 7 Top 16


Winner's
Samsora:ultpeach: vs WaDi:ultrob:
Dabuz:ultolimar::ultrosalina: vs Light:ultfox:
Tweek:ultpokemontrainerf::ultbanjokazooie: vs Dark Wizzy:ultmario:
Nairo:ultpalutena: vs ESAM:ultpikachu:


Loser's
Wishes:ultjoker: vs Jakal:ultwolf:
ZD:ultfox: vs Cosmos:ultinkling:
Gen:ultpalutena: vs Salem:ultsnake::ultbayonetta::ulthero:
LeoN:ultbowser: vs VoiD:ultsheik:

SAUCE usually play Mario (if it's the player I think of)

And here we have another tournament where a so-called low-tier player gets into Top 32 while players that are PGR-rated and play a top-tier are out (much) earlier.
Kinda makes me think again that tiers don't really existz in Ultimate or the deifferences between the tiers is really miniscule, except a few exceptions.
VoiD had the advantage of playing a character pretty much no one actually fights against anymore. The only notable win (PGR) win he got so far is against is yeti, who is known to sometimes falter against lower tiered characters (he immediately lost to Young Eevey's Bowser Jr. soon after losing to VoiD).

We will see if he can pull any other upsets in this tournament.
 
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Salem:ultbayonetta: 3-1 8BitMan:ultdiddy::ultrob:

R.O.B. mains have lamented this matchup since day 1 despite her drastic nerfs. It seems to come back to haunt him.
 

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Salem:ultbayonetta: 3-1 8BitMan:ultdiddy::ultrob:

R.O.B. mains have lamented this matchup since day 1 despite her drastic nerfs. It seems to come back to haunt him.
hes the easiest characterin the game to witch time. his nair, top, and dair are all reactable to witch time. its a really bad MU. salem combo game wasnt even on point.
 

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Extremely questionable play from Cosmos against ZD, The desperate empty grabs had me shaking my head.

Nonetheless, 13th at his first tournament in a good month or so, especially after his really low EVO placing, is a respectable bounceback. Hope he can return to form at Mainstage.
 
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VoiD:ultpichu: 3-2 LeoN:ultbowser:

VoiD's Sheik got absolutely destroyed game 1, but the Pichu pick was definitely the right call.

The matchup is basically: "Bowser is either not allowed to play the game, or he KO'ing Pichu at 60%."
 
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