Give Us Melee Weight Please

Diddy Kong

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#1
It makes no sense that Mewtwo is a feather weight in Smash honestly. In Melee, he also had a glarring weakness with his low weight in Melee, which also felt weird. So I don't know why exactly Mewtwo was made even lighter than that in Smash 4. Yes his strenght, combos and speed make up for it, and sure a character should have certain weaknesses, but this is just taken a tad too far. I really hope Mewtwo will be around his weight in Melee yet again, because with recoveries nerfed, I think it's weird that Mewtwo would be KO'd at even lower precentages than even Squirtle.
 
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#2
While it doesn't make sense it's nessicary. Mewtwo would be too good of a character if it was heavier. Most if not all top players say if mewtwo had weight, it would probably be top 3, if not the best character in smash 4. I understand the concern, and I inside feel the same, however doing so, even by a little would make mewtwo a little too strong for the metagame currently how it's looking. It's already a strong enough character on it's own.
 

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#3
I get that point entirely, but Mewtwo was a feather weight before being actually good. And whilst Mewtwo looks quite damn solid in Ultimate at the moment with his moves that have so much power, shield pressure, speed and whatnot.. this wasn't how Mewtwo was innitially desiged when he first became playable in Smash 4. He was quite underwhelming, and his weight made things worse. Am glad he's a great character now! He really should be.. but it's just kind of an eyesore to me in a way. But as long as he's good, am game. Don't get me wrong. It's just a little pet peeve I guess.
 

Gimj

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#4
As long as Mewtwo makes up for it in other areas I legit don't care. Maybe a slight buff is ok but I like the "glass cannon" archetype. He seems quite fast already.
 

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Mewtwo has a top tier recovery, top tier dash speed and high tier aerial mobility in smash 4. You can't just give a heavyweight all of those traits and honestly if someone told me would I trade Mewtwos weight for say, Falcon if I also had to swap out his recovery, I'll take the low weight every time.

Don't forget, heavier weight also involves taking a lot of free damage from early combos. Whats the point in living 20% longer every stock if you get combo'd for 20% more on an early grab combo? So you end up dying in the same amount of hits, with a worse recovery on top of that.
 

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#6
Smash 4, and Smash Ultimate Mewtwo make me wanna forget that Melee Mewtwo was even a thing. So am gonna pretend he wasn't even in that game. Much like how Ganondorf wasn't in Brawl and Smash 4 either.
 

godogod

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Mewtwo has a top tier recovery, top tier dash speed and high tier aerial mobility in smash 4. You can't just give a heavyweight all of those traits and honestly if someone told me would I trade Mewtwos weight for say, Falcon if I also had to swap out his recovery, I'll take the low weight every time.

Don't forget, heavier weight also involves taking a lot of free damage from early combos. Whats the point in living 20% longer every stock if you get combo'd for 20% more on an early grab combo? So you end up dying in the same amount of hits, with a worse recovery on top of that.
His weight in SSB4 is currently *74. 85 weight(melee) is not heavy. That's still considered lightweight Mario is 100 +- 1.
 
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Diddy Kong

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His weight in SSB4 is currently 84. 85 weight(melee) is not heavy. That's still considered lightweight Mario is 100 +- 1.
Melee Mewtwo was still heavier than the likes of Mr. Game & Watch, Fox, Falco, Pikachu and Kirby. He's now lighter than all of those characters.
 
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