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They can always get Chris Sutherland back to add some new clips if necessary!
Not saying I think it will happen... But Microsoft are certainly all for it, as are the Smash fans... It's up to Sakurai now.
Banjo & Kazooie still has a pretty good chance of appearing. I'd say higher than Yooka & Laylee. Last time this was brought up was during the last Smash Bros which we learned that Microsoft saw no issue with working with Nintendo. I doubt anything has changed.
How does Master Chief a character who has never appeared on a Nintendo console have a greater chance than a former 3rd party Nintendo character? Especially when Banjo & Kazooie were already (for the most part) approved by the owner of the IP. Yes, Nintendo would have to agree but why would Nintendo instead change which character they request when Banjo & Kazooie have far more support by fans?
They even were 2nd party characters/games. B-K/Diddy (true Rare characters back then) were all over Nintendo promotion material alongside with Nintys own characters.
That was still BEFORE the Microsoft buy-out. Considering Banjo isn't in the hands of Nintendo anymore, I don't even think they'd even care at this point sad to say if they can't give him a proper new entry. He's more or less fourth-party now.
Not to sound like I'm trolling but aside from being ridiculously requested since the Brawl days (yes, people were kind of dumb back then) there's also the fact that he's not just MS's baby - But pretty much a gaming icon like Mario at this point. I'm not saying he's MUCH more likely but he certainly does have a slight inch chance over ol' Banjo sad to say. Banjo Kazooie is a cult-classic 3D platformer, sure. But you'll also have to go up against the millions of fanboys who praise Super Mario 64 and chances are, people are more likely going to see that game as more important.
I don't think it would be that hard to find a new Voice Over artist. Banjo didnt actually speak all that much.
Fourth party is not a thing. Fittingly, maybe you are saying Banjo is not a thing.
Yeah, Not to sound rude but this is where I draw the line and drop it.
4th party literally doesn't exist. Unless you're talking about the obscure british political group.
How is Banjo & Kazooie in the same vain as "any animation character"? As far as we know being competitors isn't affecting Banjo & Kazooie's chances. As of right now we do need confirmation that Microsoft still is willing but, I do doubt they have changed their stance since last asked. If their stance is the same as it was before; the ball is in Nintendo's court so to speak.
I doubt it, I believe they understand what would be expected from a Banjo and Smash. I honestly do not understand the stigma that Microsoft is somehow protective of Banjo. They just own him and hardly use him. He is not their golden goose. They just redesigned him because they redesigned the game. That is typically what you would do. It is not as though they are super in love with it and would force NIntendo to use it, ha ha.
Well, I wasn't trying to suggest they are protective of Banjo or they even like Banjo over there. As far as I can see they don't really care about the franchise in the slightest. I just meant from a business position, it makes more sense to put Banjo in the form most associated with the company that currently controls him.
I feel as though Cloud more or less dispels that notion. I understand that Microsoft also sells consoles, but their "direct" competitor would be Sony and that has not stopped anyone from suspecting Crash. Beyond that, I believe Microsoft and Nintendo have cross-play, correct? Probably Minecraft and Rocket League? I do not play either, but Sony is the company that does not want to play ball. Microsoft is more into creating powerful hardware while having the weakest line-up of IP and Nintendo is, well, the opposite.
I understand that; however, I thought the issue was association. I suppose not, because most people would probably associate Banjo with Nintendo as is, and yet, here we are.
It would be like what they did to Goldar in the most recent Power Rangers movie- they took away the fact that he ever had a soul!
That's not entirely true. All 3rd parties do have one stipulation, they have to be famous enough to warrant an invitation. Well, that and the parent company has to be willing but I don't feel that's a big issue. Who's honestly going to say no to having a character in Smash? Think about it, Megaman, Pacman, Sonic, Snake, Ryu, and Cloud are all major gaming icons. They don't need to be current their status alone makes them relevant. Bayonetta is a bit of an outlier but she "won" the ballot so her circumstances are unique. Banjo & Kazooie are famous but they don't come close to the recognition of the other 3rd party characters and so that could actually be a preventing factor. Still, there is a lot of fan demand and Xbox is willing so this could be his best chance.
Sakurai was prepared to abandon Pac-Man if Namco wouldn't let him use the classic design, so I don't think he'd be bullied into using a specific design for Banjo.
You seem to be forgetting that:
I don't know about the others but Mr. Bond was a result in a fan poll like the ballot. He was not a genuine consideration.
SG translated it:
I didn't forget those characters were considered it's just the fact remains they were dropped. Also, he considered Banjo and Kazooie while Rare was still apart of Nintendo. Once they were bought out it B&K were scrapped. Bond would have also been a huge name as he's an insanely well-known character so that wouldn't break the trend. And like I said, Bayonetta was due to the ballot so her circumstances are different. Though I will admit I was really just playing devil's advocate. The person I responded to said there was nothing going against B&K's inclusion but Nintendo's unwillingness to put them in. From Sakurai himself for a third party to be included "Both companies have to want the character to join the battle," and, "The character must carry game history with them," from these two criteria it would be easy to say that Nintendo doesn't want him but I was just saying based on who's actually managed to become a third party character it's also likely that he doesn't have enough gaming history behind him. To be fair everything mostly comes down to Sakurai's opinion so even though we think he's famous enough doesn't mean Sakurai does.
There really wasn't anything in the way of "moves" in Nuts and Bolts was there? wasn't that like an entire THING in the game "oh hohoho, you don't need MOVES. you've got a car!" plus there's enough to draw from with Kazooie and Tooie to build a great moveset.
They also had to come to an agreement for DK64 on the virtual console as it still contains Jetpac.
Handheld games don't carry the same weight since they don't directly compete with Microsoft.
TheAnvil
's argument, however, is rather less easy to ignore.
I wouldn't say that, Phil Spencer is the head of gaming over at Microsoft and he's totally for their inclusion, so Nintendo doesn't need to buy Rare for it to happen. Hopefully, Sakurai takes him up on the offer this go around.
