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Sounds like (to me at least) the only way forward that isn't a Smash reboot (let's face it, Everyone is Here is a one time thing considering the expenses) is either to port the game to the next system (with added features) or to make the Smash equivalent of M.U.G.E.N. where they sell a game engine and let the community make the Charcters, Stages, etc. (Fat chance that's happening considering Nintendo hates modders)
If they added a M.U.G.E.N create a character type mode in Ultimate we wouldn't need another Smash ever again. I wish.
I mean M.U.G.E.N. is just the engine. Everything else (Characters, Stages, BGM, Etc.) is added by the community.
I know. But all we really need is a create a character mode.
Real question would be how would someone make this theoretical game competitively viable if just about everything is created by the community. Most I could see would be a competitive focused mod pack and even then, that **** sure as hell ain't showing up at EVO
I guess created mod characters would be banned from tournaments while developer developed characters would still be viable in competitive play. I would still want it though.
Huh, I guess this really will be it for Ultimate. I think it's times like this were we need to really reflect on how far we've come. We're at the point where worst case scenario is that he'll once again relegated to a Mii Costume. Considering plenty of characters would kill to get referenced nowadays, that's pretty damn impressive for a character whose biggest appearance is about 24 years ago. Based on everything we've seen thus far, his chances for getting in as a fighter are the best they've ever been: No Mii Costume alongside Hero, one of the few names consistently heard by insiders for the past year, a good couple rumors/leaks that bode incredibly well for him, and a level of popularity that cannot be ignored.
Hey, if Urshifu gets confirmed for the game, can you promise me that you'll switch your avatar to this for a month?
Fatmanonice
's theory about the 6 Season Pass 2 characters being Ultimate's last newcomers was right. Watch Fatman be right about Crash, Dante, Geno, Lloyd, Waluigi, and Master Chief. Than we'll see who is laughing after that Fatman haters.
Let's at least wait for the first character reveal.
I don't know if this counts as a reboot or not, but there is one other direction I could see Smash taking: turning into a full on "company vs. company" crossover fighting game. The door to third-party characters has been completely busted open at this point, so for a hypothetical Smash 6, I could see the developers taking it to the next level and pitting a bunch of Nintendo characters against a bunch characters of one other company.
I remember him comparing the Fighters Pass 2 characters to "drunk holiday shopping" or something like that, essentially implying that there would be more fan favorite requests this time around.
Fatmanonice
, is that correct? Was it based on info you got from insiders, or is it all just complete speculation on your part?
All speculation, mon amie
Yep, speculation will get uglier and there will be more backlash towards insiders due to people hoping that they are wrong when they leak a character. Every character added will be judged because there are only 6 spots left, with each judgment will become harsher and harsher as we get closer to character 11. This is why I want Geno early, number 6 would be best. Get him done now so everyone, fans and detractors, can move on.
Can you link it?
: Oh really? Where did you hear that? My all seeing eye hasn't seen this yet.It all depends on how much more the game can handle. After Season Pass 2 there will be only 4 more WoL slots left open and filling them all could be pushing the game to it's limits.
I'm pretty sure due to DLC and iterative development they can revise how many slots are left at a given notice.
Spirit: Geno
Nintendo, Sakurai, please, for everyones sake, this is it. Please oh god please, I have never felt so sure of his arrival, I can't bare to wait longer, its been far too long.
Perhaps, but it's not as likely as you think. The game has limits and it can't go beyond a certain number of slots no matter how many patches they add to fill in more so the game doesn't crash. There was a reason there was empty slots in Smash 4's data so the game could have breathing space so it wouldn't crash.
That has never been confirmed.
AceAttorney9000
My theorycraft is patchwork. It's educated guesses based on what I know. It's reporting on rumors and weighing it against everything I've heard and various strands of logic and past precedent. In that sense, I'm very rarely outright told things.Has it though?
Fatmanonice
mentioned before that Season Pass 1 was originally intended to be the end of the roster.
Sorry, Zippo post??
And the Fortune Street version of Peach's Castle to squeeze in another SMRPG song.
Well I know Layton, Sora, Ammy, and Phoenix are never gonna happen anyway so I got nothing to lose pff Cant lose what is already gone
Neither Nintendo nor Sakurai said at any point that Ultimate support would end with season 1, unlike what Sakurai just said for season 2.Has it though?
Same here. After all the DLC is out, I'm leaving Smashboards until Smash 6 speculation starts. And next time around I don't think I'll be sticking around for the DLC speculation. I will probably only stay for base game speculation come next game.
I don't know about Sora or Ammy, but Layton and Phoenix have a good shot of making it in. I would almost be shock if at least one of them didn't make it in.
I'm pretty sure that's mainly for modding where if they go outside the game's scope the game can't handle it. Sakurai with the professional tools and actual code base should be able to extend the game beyond that point.
Fatmanonice
, but what was Road 100 theory again?
One thing I have learned is its better to be pessimitic then optimistic. If Im optimistic and they dont get in, I will be heartbroken but if Im pessimistic and they dont get in, Im ok, im not gonna be sad because I believed they would have a chance anyway. Hell, Ive already giving up hope on Layton a long time ago
He never provided a source for that despite my asking several times so I think it was just speculation. That's my speculation on the matter, at least.Has it though?
xpnc
we're not getting any salvation from this speculation unless Geno's really early in the pass.
It's not my theory but I gave a name to it. It's a theory that people have been tossing around since the fall or so that Sakurai's intention for this game was to get to 100 characters. My theory is that Sakurai is going to do this in a super cheeky way:I'm sorry
Who you think the Iwata tribute could be? I think if anybody it's Balloon Fighter without a doubt. It was the first game Iwata coded for Nintendo was it not?
