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Hate to be that guy, but he never actually said Brawl would be the last Smash game. He said he was making it AS IF it were the last game, trying to achieve as much as possible.
IIRC didn't Sakurai detail Spirits as a way to kinda shout out characters that couldn't be fighters, similar to ATs?
It's just a replacement for the trophies that took 1% of the time to make
Yeah I know that Awakening is what really boosted FE but putting characters from a Nintendo series the US kinda didn't know existed was a big deal. Roy, despite his game never being localized, is a huge thing where even I was pissed at his exclusion because I loved the character that much. Though I will say that's more of a Smash thing than a FE thing.
Ahem.
EricTheGamerman
mentioned I believe...Resident Evil is the more iconic choice to fit that style. Crono, Neku, and pretty much any other Squeenix character doesn't have enough relevance or pull to be much of a contender. FF and DQ have their big bois already in the arena, so....
You know, I recall someone saying "we have nothing to lose and everything to gain" when talking about character support.
Not that I recall. Spirits are mentioned as a way to "enjoy characters other than fighters", and from the "lore" of Smash, where toys fight battles in the world of imagination, they can't return to their physical bodies. The fighters are the ones who did return to their bodies.
I believe Sakurai described Spirits as a form of “role play”, but only offered condolences to ATs and the Rex Mii costume.
Seeing a lot of ****-flinging at Harada, and I'm gonna need you all to put a little bit more respect on Harada's name here.
This was from one person who tagged Harada in a thread. Maybe that guy was being an idiot but that doesnt make all those fans rude or entitled.
Spam is something that unfortunately comes with being a popular figure. Complaining about it isnt gonna stop people from doing it, often times it just makes it worse. Im not condoning the spammer(s).
While I understand where you’re coming from, i’d advise against using “mentally challenged” as an insult. It’s a real problem for real people and shouldn’t be associated with Twitter spammers.
Okay here's the thing about the Mewtwo and Lucas trophies, it was very clear that they were making Smash Bros 3DS & Wii U without thinking DLC was going to happen. When selecting the rosters they cut Mewtwo & Lucas and decided to make them trophies instead, which also takes a lot of work just to make. So near the end of development they decided to do DLC and they selected Mewtwo & Lucas, but the trophies were already made so they weren't just going to cut two trophies from the base game since it took a good amount of work to make; they were also not going to use those trophies as their Fighter Trophies because they had to take their Amiibo into consideration before making them. There's also the description of the trophies and how both fighter and nonfighter trophies of Mewtwo & Lucas are completely different and how they had to hire someone to localize write and localize them. This is a fair assumption seeing how Smash Bros 3DS release in September 2014, Mewtwo model was revealed near the end of October and Mewtwo released in April 2015. We had to wait 7 months for the first DLC to release while we had to wait 2 months for Piranha Plant and 4 months for Joker, both of which had trailers while Mewtwo reveal was just an unfinished model. Also I can't find the link but I remember a comment saying that it took 10 months to make a Smash Bros fighter for Smash 4, so comparing the time it took to get Mewtwo and the time it took to get Piranha Plant and Joker shows that Smash Bros Ultimate DLC was planned a head of time when compared to Smash 4.
Proof, please?
https://mobile.twitter.com/Harada_TEKKEN/status/1169516190319828993?s=19
This doesn't have anything to do with Undertale. It's not even Harada saying it.
How? The second they drew up the project plan they probably knew they were doing DLC. Think, my guy, they made the game with the intention to be updated.
Piranha Plant is not true DLC, it's unfinished base game content that got pushed to DLC and made free for early adopters of the game - a time period that most people are going to buy the game anyway. Bowser Jr. would have been in the same boat if they hadn't pushed so hard on him to get him into the game in Smash 4. I'm not even going to pretend like I know what the development cycle was or is for the DLC of these two games, just that it's more likely than not that they knew good and damn well they were putting Mewtwo and Lucas into the game when they made those trophies.
Hideki Kamiya vibes off this guy, I like him.
wynn728
why are we even bringing this back, though? Do we really have any definitive proof that DLC Pass 2 was decided before the game was out? That seems like a big reach, tbh. And if it isn’t a pass, it makes even less sense that these characters would be planned out soooo early on.Condescending or not, I don't appreciate the sarcasm right now, bucko.
I wouldnt say the whole pass is planned out, but I wouldnt be surprised if there was at least been early negotiations. I think the current pass was definitely decided by December though. Edit: I think Capcom probably wants in on the dlc but were too late for pass, and that Bethesda interview from like last summer will probably factor in to wave 2, unless of course Doom Guy is #5. Just a hunch though
I think those three are all likely for something, though what it is we cant know. Theyre all a little too big to be ignored. My guess is that the spirits will promote future games or remakes. Prime 4 for Sylux, some new kirby game for adeline, and a Earthbound remake or Mother collection for Porky. If they were intended for that and those games dont happen they might get stuck in limbo.
I would encourage you to be wary of how you use the phrase "mentally challenged" especially in a post critiquing the way in which people utilize media. I agree with the rest of your post, but can't condone the use of that specific phrase.
I'll own this as my fault. I'm the one who said that Brew has a semblance of legitimacy if we find out there's 10 DLC characters or were 10 planned when Nintendo told us there'd be 5, and that brought Wynn back on how spirits are implicit deconfirms (I'm not adopting "disconfirm" no matter how much people get hot under the collar about it being an actual word because I don't think it means what you think it means, especially not in this context) and Geno's up a creek even further if they had ten characters planned out since June 2018 and still put him in as a spirit.
If we're going off of Brew leak who was saying the Sakurai and his team already planned out 10 fighters back in 2018 then the Spirit argument has relevance. If they knew there were going to make more than the first five initial fighters they announce and already know who they were going to use then they wouldn't have turn those characters into Spirits. If what Brew says isn't true and the next wave of DLC was decided in 2019 then yeah the Spirit Argument holds no relevance.
I agree
from Super Mario RPG: Legend of the Seven Stars
Mallow
I think it's funny how easy it is to come up with Geno's special moves with the glaring exception of his Up B. Reason being is because most Up B's have some element of recovery (ie upward movement) and he never demonstrated any such kind of technique in his own game. The only Up B I could come up with was some kind of rocket punch where he shoots his arm downward similar to Megaman's dair but with the upward blowback of Mii Gunner's Up B. What other ideas have people come up with for his recovery?
No, what I was saying was that during development Sakurai & his team were unsure if they were going to make DLC for Smash Bros 4 and just made the game without that in mind. Trophies takes a long time to make so they probably had the team start on that early. Near the end of development Nintendo & Sakurai came to a decision that they will make DLC for Smash Bros 4. When deciding they weren't going to be like "Okay, let's put X in the game. What? We already made a trophy, guess they're out of the running."
What the hell is a Geno?
