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Geno (♥♪!?): Return of the Starsend Savior

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Ovaltine

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At the very least, we aren't getting any character downloads before the Banjero due to the numbering system (only echoes can be added before them). They can announce another character, but they probably won't release them until after the other two.

Are they planning on the FP characters being in numeric order and no side DLC, if planned, will come between them? Who knows. I hope if there is more DLC that they don't wait until after character 5 to announce them.
I hope so, too, but I guess who knows? Sakurai loves breaking conventions, rules, and expectations. I wouldn't believe in it happening, but you really never know.

(Also, for the record, 'the Banjero' made me cackle. Thanks for that. :drflip: )
 
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My only problem with Crash is that he is owned by Activision. And I don’t like Activision as a company. Mostly because of their practices and what they did to Blizzard. I would prefer them not get the smash exposure.
Activision is at least improving when it comes to Crash, Spyro and Nintendo support.

If Crash got in Smash and sold amazingly well, Activision would keep this track of good releases strong.

When companies get huge benefits from great quality products, they keep making them.
 

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So, it looked like Tansut only had a Square contact. If he says anything new, that will indicate that Square isn't done with Smash.
 

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So, it looked like Tansut only had a Square contact. If he says anything new, that will indicate that Square isn't done with Smash.
If he starts giving us hints at another rep or more Smash stuff in general, I'll be very intrigued, indeed. He's proven not to be infallible, given he got some of the Hero info wrong, but his track record is otherwise proven solid now.
 

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If he starts giving us hints at another rep or more Smash stuff in general, I'll be very intrigued, indeed. He's proven not to be infallible, given he got some of the Hero info wrong, but his track record is otherwise proven solid now.
If anything, the fact that he got minor details wrong almost makes me believe him more - it's entirely conceivable that, because he leaked Erdrick so long ago, he got his information extremely early in the development process, and the details that turned out differently were simply reworked along the way. If nothing else, he certainly believes his source's accuracy, considering he had no qualms about doubling/tripling down on what he was told.
 

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I just want to say that after the past couple of months of this thread basically being the same 7 or so people going back and forth over the same points it's really nice to see a lot of people who took a break from the thread come back to discuss Geno, and be genuinely hopeful for his chances in the future. It's great to have you all back!

The Hero probably did pretty well in the ballot because it's literally the main hero of 11 games rolled into one plus Slime. He's pretty much Dragon Quest: the Character ™. Based on how people talk, "Eight" was probably the most voted for DQ Hero globally but I doubt the numbers were that impressive outside of Japan but, with all the Heroes and Slime combined, the numbers were probably decent.
It's times like this that I'd really wish they would just release the ballot totals. Because every non-ballot poll result I've seen cuts off at like 30 or so and the only DQ rep to make that cut that I've seen is Slime a few times.

I am leaning on Geno being a bonus character. And not part of the fighter pass. I am thinking the last two characters are from Bethesda and Valve. Since we know that Bethesda said they have talked to Nintendo about Smash on top of their heavy support for the switch. And then there are those rumors going around that Nintendo wanted an exclusive half life game but the negotiations fail through. I believe Nintendo wanted more then that and might have got it.

I know two more western characters is HIGHLY unlikely. But I am just going off what we know and the idea that Sakurai is trying to make smash a game where many companies are taking part in it as possible.
The way things are going I would bet on 1 rep from a Japanese company and 1 from an American one if not just 2 from Japanese devs. At this point I'm actually thinking every FP character will be very different than the others in terms of what game they're coming from. We have Hero representing the classic JRPG, Joker representing new-age JRPGs/social simulators, and Banjo representing 3D collectathon adventure games. I think the next most likely rep will be someone from Resident Evil like Jill Valentine representing survival horror games with character swaps for Leon, Clair, and Chris. Hopefully more like Jill's moveset in MvC2 where she summoned zombies and zombie dogs and not too gun heavy. It'd also give the pass a female character. I'm also thinking we're getting Crash Bandicoot because having the Sony mascot finally in Smash would I think be the biggest way to finish off the FP. Either Crash or something incredibly unexpected like unironically Sans from Undertale. And yeah yeah I know Shovel Knight didn't make it in and neither did Shantae, but it's the type of wtf choice I could see Sakurai and Nintendo making at this point.

I'm still hoping for a surprise Geno appearance in the FP somehow or a second FP announcement at the very least. Vergeben technically wan't 100% on the SE character. He was 100% on Erdrick specifically. Though he did say Erdrick was more of a class title for the DQ character he also had Luminary listed separately from Erdrick on his list of 7 SE characters. It's still possible that his claim of Geno being leakbait might've not been 100% accurate.
 
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I am leaning on Geno being a bonus character. And not part of the fighter pass. I am thinking the last two characters are from Bethesda and Valve. Since we know that Bethesda said they have talked to Nintendo about Smash on top of their heavy support for the switch. And then there are those rumors going around that Nintendo wanted an exclusive half life game but the negotiations fail through. I believe Nintendo wanted more then that and might have got it.

I know two more western characters is HIGHLY unlikely. But I am just going off what we know and the idea that Sakurai is trying to make smash a game where many companies are taking part in it as possible.
When did Bethesda discuss with Nintendo about a Smash character? All I have ever heard about was that they weren't opposed to the idea.

The only Valve collaborating with Nintendo rumor I've heard was that Gabe Newell and Miyamoto were discussing a Half Life (I think it was Half Life) project for the Wii U but the plans fell through. This rumor was also confirmed in an interview that Valve News Network had with Gray Newell where he confirmed it.

I would really appreciate it if you could link me the sources to these claims as this would help with my personal speculation.
 

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When did Bethesda discuss with Nintendo about a Smash character? All I have ever heard about was that they weren't opposed to the idea.

The only Valve collaborating with Nintendo rumor I've heard was that Gabe Newell and Miyamoto were discussing a Half Life (I think it was Half Life) project for the Wii U but the plans fell through. This rumor was also confirmed in an interview that Valve News Network had with Gray Newell where he confirmed it.

I would really appreciate it if you could link me the sources to these claims as this would help with my personal speculation.
Here is the Bethesda claim:
http://www.nintendolife.com/news/20..._bros_future_nintendo_exclusives_are_possible

And here is the Valve claim:

I think the next most likely rep will be someone from Resident Evil like Jill Valentine representing survival horror games with character swaps for Leon, Clair, and Chris. Hopefully more like Jill's moveset in MvC2 where she summoned zombies and zombie dogs and not too gun heavy. It'd also give the pass a female character.
As a Phoenix Wright fan this thought scares me.
 
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As a Phoenix Wright fan this thought scares me.
Tbh if it's not RE as the Capcom rep I would say it's likely Phoenix Wright. I'm just making this prediction based on purely aesthetic and genre differences between the characters in the FP. It's also why I don't think a Tales rep seems as likely at this point even with the rumors around Lloyd. But hey I could be completely wrong and you get Phoenix Wright and Tales fans get Lloyd.
 
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Tbh if it's not RE as the Capcom rep I would say it's likely Phoenix Wright. I'm just making this prediction based on purely aesthetic and genre differences between the characters in the FP. It's also why I don't think a Tales rep seems as likely at this point even with the rumors around Lloyd. But hey I could be completely wrong and you get Phoenix Wright and Tales fans get Lloyd.
Right now the only 'leak' out there advertised enough has the last two be Leon Kennedy or Jill Valentine and Lloyd (the others were Joker, Banjo and Erdrick). However, as that damned 5chan leak showed us, they may not have the full DLC list this early.

Now the pressure is on character 4 and 5. Those will get backlash if they aren't commonly huge fan requests (basically Corrin and Bayonetta all over again). That's because it won't be due to who they are, but who they aren't. I doubt very much Hero would be received so well if he was character 5. Banjo, though? He could meet character 5 hype.

That's why if Geno is a pass character, let him be number 4. 4 won't get as much hype backlash as 5.

Could you imagine if Corrin was the final character?
 

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I paid for the fighter's pass and 2/3 of the characters shown thus far have been wasted slots as far as I'm concerned

My and everyone else's dissatisfaction is just as valid as your passive acceptance. It's not entitled when you think a product you've paid for is lacking in some way. That's my right as a consumer and a customer and I will vote with my wallet in the future and straight up not purchase the characters I don't like.

You don't get to tell me this is entitled or selfish. Nintendo isn't entitled to my money if I think the characters they pick are dumb.
If you don't mind my asking, which of the 3 do you think is worth it so far?

PS. Your concerns are exactly why I refused to buy the mystery box. If I don't like that crap, I ain't buyin'. That's why I'm going to test drive "Hero" on my brother's switch before I decide whether I'm going to get him. Banjo's a lock for me though. No doubt about it.

Now the pressure is on character 4 and 5. Those will get backlash if they aren't commonly huge fan requests (basically Corrin and Bayonetta all over again). That's because it won't be due to who they are, but who they aren't. I doubt very much Hero would be received so well if he was character 5. Banjo, though? He could meet character 5 hype.

That's why if Geno is a pass character, let him be number 4. 4 won't get as much hype backlash as 5.
I was thinking the exact same thing. There's going to be stupid amounts of pressure considering the hype after Banjo getting dropped. The only three characters I could think of that people would go crazy for are Geno, Sephiroth and Master Chief. I think Nintendo would effectively match expectations with those considering the insane fan followings of each, especially the latter two when it comes to gaming culture in general. The biggest catch though, is that I doubt the fighter pass would get away with being so Square Enix-heavy. Still, if they end the entire DLC cycle with something like Piranha Plant, there's going to be riots in the streets.
 
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I paid for the fighter's pass and 2/3 of the characters shown thus far have been wasted slots as far as I'm concerned

My and everyone else's dissatisfaction is just as valid as your passive acceptance. It's not entitled when you think a product you've paid for is lacking in some way. That's my right as a consumer and a customer and I will vote with my wallet in the future and straight up not purchase the characters I don't like.

You don't get to tell me this is entitled or selfish. Nintendo isn't entitled to my money if I think the characters they pick are dumb.
If you're going to be so defensive over disliking Nintendo's choice of characters, why did you commit to a year's worth of DLC without knowing any of its contents? That's a decision you make only if you're willing to accept whatever those contents may be, as a responsible consumer, no?
 

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It's weird, I thought Geno actually had a better chance than Banjo, seeing the long time fanbase, fan polls, etc. Since Banjo got in along with so many other long time requests, I actually have more hope for him as the last DLC slot.
 

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- BotW Sequel
- Link’s Awakening Remake
- Luigi’s Mansion 3
- Animal Crossing New Horizons
- Witcher 3
- Alien Isolation
- Collection of Mana, third game finally comes to the West
- Ni no Kuni Switch port (never got the chance to play it the first time)
- Marvel Ultimate Alliance 3: The Black Order
- Super Mario Maker 2
- No More Heroes III
- Trials of Mana Remake
- Panzer Dragoon Remake
Same, everything was awesome this presentation.
So now we have a Hero Sandwich

Smashdough Bread
Lotuce
Tomeighto
Solomi
Lumontary Jack Cheese

Taste varies between regions.
This is genius level.
I guess one of the nail biting things about the Mii costume situation is that Square Enix has a ton of characters that could be Mii Gunners, especially now that Dragon Quest is in the mix. Plus, characters like Mii Isabelle and Mii K.K. show that the interpretation of a "Gunner" can be goofy as all hell and take huge creative liberties. On top of this, we STILL don't know what Sakurai was using that gun model for because none of the DLC characters use the type of gun that model did. That said, one of the remaining two has a decent chance of being a projectile specialist so it's back to speculation heartburn despite the whole Erdrick thing finally coming to a nearly year long conclusion.
Phoenix Wright: Projectile Specialist.

Yeah I'm reaching.
I paid for the fighter's pass and 2/3 of the characters shown thus far have been wasted slots as far as I'm concerned

My and everyone else's dissatisfaction is just as valid as your passive acceptance. It's not entitled when you think a product you've paid for is lacking in some way. That's my right as a consumer and a customer and I will vote with my wallet in the future and straight up not purchase the characters I don't like.

You don't get to tell me this is entitled or selfish. Nintendo isn't entitled to my money if I think the characters they pick are dumb.
Seems to me like you're not too easy to please, which makes me wonder why you bought the Fighter Pass so early.

Like, my only qualm was that I didn't want it if it contained Steve (which I didn't think was going to happen) and I still waited until yesterday to buy it.
 

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Good think Geno is a Mario character then.

To compare him to the likes of Dragon Quest and Final Fantasy was ludicrous on our end.

Sure maybe ownership wise they are one in the same, but Sakurai can pick whoever he wants in his game. Banjo and Joker proves nothing is stopping him from doing what he wants. He could easily just be a mii costume but what says he is obligated to picking an X amount of characters per company? If he likes a character, he will put them in.
We say nothing is stopping him by honestly I think the only person stopping Sakurai is himself. Right now all Sakurai is doing when it comes to Geno is compromise. He compromise with Square to make the Geno Mii Costume in Smash 4, which is understandable since Smash 4 and the Wii U were at the end of it's life cycle. Now Smash Bros Ultimate comes along and he's making compromise to have Geno in as a Spirit. There might be an obligation of choosing a certain amount of character from each company since Nintendo was the one that came up with the list and they're probably going to try and get other series represented. Looking at the amount of content that they got for Dragon Quest in Smash Bros must have cost a lot, so there's a good chance that Sakurai and Nintendo want to move on to another company for a different character than coming back to Square Enix for Geno in this current Fighters Pass. Plus again we know from leakers that there was only one Square Enix planned for DLC, and that happen to be Dragon Quest. They're not going back for Geno, Sakurai going to think that the compromise he made for the Spirit and the upcoming Mii Costume was more than enough to satisfy the fans (mostly because he is pretty disconnected from the fanbase). I would love for Geno to be in, but I think we got to accept the fact that Sakurai never intended to make Geno playable and is contempt with just referencing Super Mario RPG if Piranha Plant is any indications (such as it's victory screen in Classic Mode and reference to a SMRPG Boss in it's Palutena's Guidance).
 

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Honestly, now that Banjo's in, I'll probably buy the Fighter's Pass later today. Maybe. I dunno, I already bought Joker separately, so is that even a thing I can do?
 
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Honestly, now that Banjo's in, I'll probably buy the Fighter's Pass later today. Maybe. I dunno, I already bought Joker separately, so is that even a thing I can do?
Hopefully that’s the case.

I can only buy each fighter pack separated since my mother wants me to learn how to control virtual currency in order to prevent any possible problem in the future.
 

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Honestly, now that Banjo's in, I'll probably buy the Fighter's Pass later today. Maybe. I dunno, I already bought Joker separately, so is that even a thing I can do?
I was thinking about it too but I think I'm going to hold off at this point. I already bought Joker as well, and tbh I'm just not very interested in Hero. Like I'm trying to make myself excited by looking at his gameplay and am just not really. I might try him out on a friend's system and see if I feel more positively after he releases. At this point it feels like I'd be buying him for the sake of having all the characters rather than actually wanting to play him. I'd be fine with buying Banjo and the other two characters separately if I like them as well.
 
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If Geno is indeed out of the running which I don't think he is just yet it really depends on the Mii Costume, Who would you want after him? I'd focus my attention on my dude Phoenix Wright cause I recently started playing the trilogy on Switch and the games are so great and the music is so fantastic! If Geno is indeed out of the running I'd want Phoenix Wright in Smash 100%.

But I don't think Geno is out of the running just yet not until we see if the Mii Costume returns or not, If anything I see more hope for Geno than anything after Banjo's reveal which you'd think would be the opposite with Erdrick being a Square rep. Even I feel more hopeful for Geno now which is strange.
 

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If Geno is indeed out of the running which I don't think he is just yet it really depends on the Mii Costume, Who would you want after him? I'd focus my attention on my dude Phoenix Wright cause I recently started playing the trilogy on Switch and the games are so great and the music is so fantastic! If Geno is indeed out of the running I'd want Phoenix Wright in Smash 100%.

But I don't think Geno is out of the running just yet not until we see if the Mii Costume returns or not, If anything I see more hope for Geno than anything after Banjo's reveal which you'd think would be the opposite with Erdrick being a Square rep. Even I feel more hopeful for Geno now which is strange.
I actually just purchased the Trilogy myself yesterday, despite having beaten the first three games innumerable times, as a sort of summoning ritual for our boy in blue. If I give Capcom enough money, do you think they'll grant me a wish?

(And if we all buy The Hero will Squeenix take pity?)
 

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If Geno is indeed out of the running which I don't think he is just yet it really depends on the Mii Costume, Who would you want after him? I'd focus my attention on my dude Phoenix Wright cause I recently started playing the trilogy on Switch and the games are so great and the music is so fantastic! If Geno is indeed out of the running I'd want Phoenix Wright in Smash 100%.

But I don't think Geno is out of the running just yet not until we see if the Mii Costume returns or not, If anything I see more hope for Geno than anything after Banjo's reveal which you'd think would be the opposite with Erdrick being a Square rep. Even I feel more hopeful for Geno now which is strange.
To be completely honest I don't especially want any character other than Geno at this point. Like, I'm sure there are characters that I like and maybe even am not a fan of that could be made to look really cool in Smash, but at this point I'm not really invested in any other character getting in now that Banjo is finally in.
 

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Honestly, now that Banjo's in, I'll probably buy the Fighter's Pass later today. Maybe. I dunno, I already bought Joker separately, so is that even a thing I can do?
You most likely still can buy the whole pass, it just means you’ll lose money, as they won’t give any discount for buying joker originally. Chances are it’ll let you buy the pass right up until you only have one character left to buy. You’d still be getting a better deal however by getting the pass now.
 

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I actually just purchased the Trilogy myself yesterday, despite having beaten the first three games innumerable times, as a sort of summoning ritual for our boy in blue. If I give Capcom enough money, do you think they'll grant me a wish?

(And if we all buy The Hero will Squeenix take pity?)
For both cases I hope so if we can get our boys in blue for Smash that would be great. Phoenix Wright and Geno in Smash? I would absolutely adore that and the music both could bring would be absolutely fantastic.
To be completely honest I don't especially want any character other than Geno at this point. Like, I'm sure there are characters that I like and maybe even am not a fan of that could be made to look really cool in Smash, but at this point I'm not really invested in any other character getting in now that Banjo is finally in.
I agree with you though, Geno is my main priority when it comes to Smash but if he is indeed out then I'd probably move over to Phoenix. Still, Geno is my main priority.
 

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Tbh it's kinda weird we don't have any Mario RPG music in Ultimate. Especially with how Square's already onboard, and with the Geno & Mallow Spirits, I'd think we get at least one or two tracks considering how popular Mario RPG's music is in the Nintendo and gaming community.
 

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Alright , a bit late on that one , but I'm going to share my thoughts on the DQ Heroes and HOLY MOLY BANJO AND KAZOOIE ARE IN SMASH , THAT'S ACTUALLY REAL*cough*

DQ Heroes : Let's start with the positive. They managed to include 2 of my favorite 3 DQ characters , Eight and Slime. (The third is Joker from Monster Joker , he may get a spirit) I do like the aesthetics of the DQ stage , I'm a sucker for colorful stuff like that. I do admit that I was a bit nostalgic , I love Toriyama's artstyle and DQ8 is a game I loved.
I sadly dislike the fact that it's another sword user. Several normales feel really same-ish. His magic will be the glue to it's moveset... At least I hope so. Also , directlu cutting in the DQ 11 S commercial just scream "please , we like money". Yeah , it's how the video game market is nowadays... But couldn't thye have been more subtle ? But hey , it's independant from the character.

Banjo and Kazooie : I love everything about them. King K. Rool all over again for me. 11/10. All I'm hoping for is a dragon kazooie alt.

Who do I think could be next ?

-I'm still betting on Geno , but as a bonus character or for FP2. If not... Then there's Smash 6/Ultimate Deluxe.

-Bandai Namco rep. Klonoa would litteraly make me cry , but he's not the most likely. While Lloyd is wanted , I don't want half of the DLC characters to be from RPGs again , like in Sm4sh. Don-Chan sadly got deconfirmed. But they're probably getting someone...

-Someone from a company that isn't in Smash. Rayman , Crash , Spyro , ect...

-A Rythm Heaven rep. No music gimmick in Smash , and would give interest to the franchise. If spirits don't mean anything , I'm hoping for Chorus Kids , otherwise , I want the Barista from Megamix.

-Something like Labo Guy. A unique and weird character that scream Nintendo.

To be honest , I'm probably gonna co-main Banjo-Kazooie and King K. Rool now. People can't stop ******** about Olimar (seriously , I dropped the character because of the hate I would get. This community can be ****ing sad at times... Because damn , can they find the right words to hurt you sometimes.) , Pac-Man feel too simple for me (Listen , I was the kind of guy to do a RAR SH D-air propulsed by the water of the hydrant to stage spike people who ledge stall) , Dedede is very fun... Actually , I should play him more lol. Plant is fun , but can feel a bit repetitive at times.
I love my childrens Popo and Nana but I sadly don't have the time to become an eclipse Iceberg master with all of these desyncs. I tried , but I can't follow the rythm with all the balance patches that keep messing up Nana in some way.

Anyway , long story short , I'm a Rare main lol.


... Well , until they announce the Geno mii costume.
 

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Here's a question. To those of you not yet sold on the Fighters Pass, what characters are missing to truly sell it for you?
I bought it immediately cause I want the full roster, but...

Brian(Quest 64)
Scorpion(Mortal Kombat)
Agumon(Digimon)

Those are my big 3 at the moment. Assuming no repeated companies in the current one.

For those who are otherwise;

Geno(SMRPG)
Rabbids(Rabbids)
Master Chief(Halo)
Doom Slayer(Doom)

Probably more, but this isn't counting AT's.
 

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Here's a question. To those of you not yet sold on the Fighters Pass, what characters are missing to truly sell it for you?
Man do I expect a lot of "Geno." answers to come from this...
Honestly, if you haven't bought the pass yet, chances are you won't. My friend's like that and I doubt he'd buy it even if his favorite anime weeb stuff got in.

(for the record, I bought it the second it was purchasable, and I do not regret that decision so far, with the first 2 being neutral picks (though Joker's now my main, lol) and the 3rd being "OMG WHAT THE HECK YESSSSSS!!!" my #2 pick, so yeah, I'm glad I saved $5 :)
 

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Now that Ridley and Banjo are in, Geno's pretty much the last character that I have a long term attachment to aside maybe Takamaru. I'm personally 18 years into Geno for Smash support and 23 years into being a Geno fan so it's really my last goal post as a Smash fan.
 

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Here's a question. To those of you not yet sold on the Fighters Pass, what characters are missing to truly sell it for you?
While being reasonable , here's a list :
-Rayman
-Crash
-Spyro
-Rythm Heaven rep
-Nintendo rep that isn't FE with a sword
(Louie , but he's weird. Enough moveset potentiel for unique , depend on context if he's an echo or nah)

Would make me buy the FP instantly :
-Geno
-Klonoa
-Billy Hatcher
-Camilla
-Zizou Olympia
 
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Here's a question. To those of you not yet sold on the Fighters Pass, what characters are missing to truly sell it for you?
With Eight and Banjo I got it already sold, although Crash Bandicoot would be the ultimate cherry on the top.
 

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I didn't buy the fighter's pass on the occasion a character I really didn't want makes it in.

granted the only characters that fit that bill were Minecraft Steve (nothing against the fanbase or franchise, but Steve himself really is anti-hype for me), or stuff that was super-duper, ridiculously unlikely like Freddy Fasbear or a Fortnite character, or Goku or some other non-gaming franchise. Still though...

Don't know if getting a character I actually want would change that.
 
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I'm also thinking we're getting Crash Bandicoot because having the Sony mascot finally in Smash would I think be the biggest way to finish off the FP.
Crash would definitely be extremely hype. If he were to get in, he would definitely be the most hype character of the FP
 

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Crash is a character that I've always been partially interested/hype over.

If he got announced he'd be my favorite of bunch so far TBH.
 
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Crash is a character that I've always been partially interested/hype over.

If he got announced he'd be my favorite of bunch so far TBH.
I'm hoping he's character #5 so he can be the icing on the cake
 

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Now that Ridley and Banjo are in, Geno's pretty much the last character that I have a long term attachment to aside maybe Takamaru. I'm personally 18 years into Geno for Smash support and 23 years into being a Geno fan so it's really my last goal post as a Smash fan.
Yeah this is pretty much how I feel. Megaman, Geno, Banjo, Ridley and K. Rool are the characters I’ve collectively wanted in since Melee/Brawl.
 

Vector Victor

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Tbh it's kinda weird we don't have any Mario RPG music in Ultimate. Especially with how Square's already onboard, and with the Geno & Mallow Spirits, I'd think we get at least one or two tracks considering how popular Mario RPG's music is in the Nintendo and gaming community.
But if they added the music now, what will accompany Geno in his fighter pass later? They promised a stage and music.
 

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If Geno gets in, I honestly think he'll be last. Last game's DLC was the supposed winner of the Smash ballot, i.e. a big deal. Geno would be a big deal for long time smash fans.
 

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Here's a question. To those of you not yet sold on the Fighters Pass, what characters are missing to truly sell it for you?
Funny thing. It isn't so much a question of who's missing...it's who they could add. I mean, Geno is still missing, so there's that, but even if he didn't get in somehow, I'm reserving my wallet vote to punish anything I deem to be too stupid or nepotistic. For example, if they were to try and add Minecraft Steve, I would straight up decline. All due respect to his fans, I have absolutely ZERO interest in him or his franchise and I find his design to be boring and repugnant. Other things I'd refuse to buy include: any other generic swordfighters, any other generic baddies (such as goombas, waddle dees, etc., sorry), or hyper realistic characters whose movesets would feel heavily forced (sorry but I feel this applies to the Resident Evil characters since they are literally just normal humans with a gun).

That said, there are a lot of unexpected characters out there that I could see being a pleasant surprise, and thus far, I feel that Nintendo and Sakurai have instilled a good amount of faith in the DLC. Still, I will reserve my power to object should they betray my trust (which frankly has happened to me more than once). Also, and finally, to Ovaltine's previous quesiton, I'm not even sure I can get the remaining DLC at a discount at this point, even if I wanted to. I already bought Joker, so if I buy the whole pack now, I'd actually be re-buying Joker and paying $1 more than simply waiting to buy them all individually.
 
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