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Exactly. I don't think the starling is related to the newest pics at all given how long it's been since the starling was posted. If it were related, I think it would've been lumped in with the recent picture hints
Precisely, and even though we don't know concretely I'm willing to bet they've all been this month and had significantly shorter spaces between them, almost as if a direct is coming and he's slowly been crossreferencing all the rumors and dropping a pic with each confirmation. The real interesting bit is given what was seen as worthy of a pic previously and how each one so far has only been planned to get 1 pic(banjo being given an exception due to sabi's responce) I'm VERY curious what could be comming to illicit this behavior.
Fatmanonice has stated that the NoA source that posted the starling is now posting some new image hints in their private Discord, interestingly coinciding (timing-wise) with the new SKU listings on Gamestop (which are of unknown, unannounced games, of which there are 18 total so far).
So how are they related to Geno, may I ask?
They are not yet related. However, if the starling image hint IS related to these new image hints, that means the starling probably isn't for Geno in Smash. As of now, because Fatman's not been given permission to share the exact hints, we do not know more than that.
I mean, I'll be honest, there was a good while there where I genuinely thought I was sort of in this minority bracket hoping for a character like Geno to see some representation, but after I discovered this thread in particular, I'd started lurking around the boards and followed the discussion in the background. I'm ecstatic there are so many other fans rallying behind this character that had meant so much to me growing up. It's a nice feeling!
Oh, my friend, people have absolutely adored Geno for decades. He's proven himself as a fan favorite for a large group. I'd still say the Geno fanbase is more of a minority bracket, but not NEARLY as much as I thought back when I used to hate the guy. (Again, yeah, I used to hate Geno. Now I'm one of his biggest supporters and lore-crafters. Go figure!) Trust me when I say that you are not alone.
The time between the starling and these newest images is suspect also. If it were related to these newest hints, it'd make a lot more sense if it was posted with the newest hints. That, and the source made it perfectly clear that it's not Fire Emblem or Pokemon related, and since Mario, Zelda, Kirby, and Animal Crossing already had major titles released or on the horizon, Smash seems to be the only thing that fits the starling.
It could always be about a new Star Fox game, concidering "Starwing" and all that jazz.
Please tell me that Nintendo is just scrapping that idiotic online app and gives us a proper VC. They would earn so much more money if they did that it's ridiculous. I get if they want to keep people of having to pay for online service, but that app is a joke. PSN and Xbox could is a perfect blueprint for them on how they should handle it.
Europe hasn't used Star Wing since the original SNES game, so I doubt it. Star Fox 64 was called Lylat Wars in Europe because George Lucas thought Star Wing sounded too much like Star Wars and requested a name change
While you are absolutely right, I was more thinking about a mixture of Star Fox - Airwing wordplay situation (like we talked about how it could be a wordplay connection to Geno) if you know what I mean.
So wait, to get around the franchise sounding too much like Star Wars, they went from “Star ___” to “___ Wars”? Ok, Europe.
Nintendo of Europe didn't understand trademark law
There's also the missing Virtua Fighter Mii Costume that no one brings up despite them being SEGA characters and Akira being an Assist Trophy.This is absolutely a possibility - If we consider the missing costume an oddity in of itself, we also have to think about the fact that the Chocobo costume didn't come back, either. They could currently be in reserve for a standalone Mii costume pack release, or, of course, there's this lingering possibility that there's another Square character who will be shown later on that they'll drop the costumes with.
And if you really want to take that places, you could argue Geno was missing because he'll be in the game as a fighter, and the Chocobo was missing because it was gonna drop with Geno's costume pack. Of course, guess which version of the future I want.
Excuse me, but what leak are you talking about?
Probably the one about three new offline modes and one new online mode
What were the modes exactly? I remember hearing about some sort of detamine but I never saw what exactly was on it.
Part of me really wants to keep this going, but the other part of me who is bored of the conversation and wants to meme is feeling stronger today. So have this:
Not to be a prick, but it was 3 new Online modes, 1 new Smash mode and 1 new Games and More mode.
Well there are a lot of Minecraft fan who don't really care for Steve. Since the game is in first person view that means you rarely get to see him and with the lack of characterization and personality Steve has became just a vehicle for fans to put their own interpretation onto and change his look by using different skins to fit the way they play Minecraft. Because the way Minecraft works there a great chance that Steve and Alex will be nothing more than just avatars for players to change out. It's similar to The Sims, there are no central characters since people make their own characters, which is why Steve can have his name change.
Combat is a big part of Minecraft survival, and Sakurai could certainly give Steve a few blocks to place and get resources from to quickly make a tool upgrade or armor.Part of me really wants to keep this going, but the other part of me who is bored of the conversation and wants to meme is feeling stronger today. So have this:
So I don't leave your post with nothing, though, I will say some short things.
- Classic Characters can't really be changed that much, Classic being from N64 or Melee. As much as people want those characters to evolve and change based on their new games, there are very many more vocal fans who would lose their stack of pancakes if that happened. Thus, only minor changes can be made. Even BotW Link is a rather minor change.
- Not every game mechanic can be applied when you are a character, but they can be via stage or Assist Trophy. This is why I think other franchises can be better represented via stage/AT. Undertale is a bullet hell that has major emotional impact and choices that matter. You can't really reflect much of that in a character, but Sans, Undyne, Papyrus or Asgore as ATs? Would suit them perfectly. Also, the emotional part really can't be done without a stage giving us those feels moments, as emotional impact isn't really needed despite being a key feature of Undertale. MineCraft isn't truly about combat at all: it's mainly exploration and resource gathering and building/crafting. While Steve/whoever could be a character, with such little to really go on due to the lack of combat focus and the requirement of crafting/building in his kit, it would be extremely difficult to craft such a mechanic in a fair and balanced manner that also feels fun AND properly represents the franchise. You can say 'it can be done' but how many of us saying 'it can be done' are game developers?
Steve can't have his name change, because the name "Steve" is tied directly to his skin, same with Alex. Yes, players can change the skin, but then they're no longer Steve, yet Steve is still pushed as the main face alongside Alex and the Creeper.
For some reason you REALLY seem to take this a bit personal. You are mostly keeping yourself contained, but there is some verbiage in your posts that show you are perhaps a bit too emotionally invested in this.
I think blocks could work if they set it to his neutral B, and have it so he can select some that he could get either from bonking opponents or he either has them by default; however, he can only have a maximum of 3-5 blocks in the field at a time, each block has some health before it gets destroyed by attacks or enemies getting bonked against them, and also have a certain amount of time before disappearing (each depends on the type of block, and the timer may not be a thing if Steve has to collect them). He could use dirt, wood, cobblestone, and maybe obsidian among whatever else. Maybe glass as some sort-of joke, heheh. Beyond this special, he could use certain blocks like chests or TNT in a few other moves, but only for certain functions like throws / a D-air or slamming the chest shut on an opponent. Of course there's also tools and other items.
My brains is now going crazy. I'm a creative person by nature: if I get riled up enough, I can go on for hours creating something that doesn't really matter. I'm fading though because work at 6AM and I fall out around 9-10. Plus I showered and the make me sleepy, so here are so very quick ideas I had.
Star Fox was called Starwing in Europe because there's a German company called StarVox. George Lucas does not have sway over European copyright.
Agree to disagree I suppose. I think it's kind of cool we can all agree on wanting Geno in Smash but still have very varied opinions otherwise. There's nothing wrong with that. To be honest, I enjoy these kind of debates although I am tiring of this one because I'm more focused on trying to get my Geno Moveset together. I appreciate you trying to validate your opinion even though I don't personally find much factual logic in it. I think there are plenty of recent examples of characters that the Smash team has taken plenty of liberties with it's not just 64/Melee characters those are just the most obvious.Part of me really wants to keep this going, but the other part of me who is bored of the conversation and wants to meme is feeling stronger today. So have this:
So I don't leave your post with nothing, though, I will say some short things.
- Classic Characters can't really be changed that much, Classic being from N64 or Melee. As much as people want those characters to evolve and change based on their new games, there are very many more vocal fans who would lose their stack of pancakes if that happened. Thus, only minor changes can be made. Even BotW Link is a rather minor change.
- Not every game mechanic can be applied when you are a character, but they can be via stage or Assist Trophy. This is why I think other franchises can be better represented via stage/AT. Undertale is a bullet hell that has major emotional impact and choices that matter. You can't really reflect much of that in a character, but Sans, Undyne, Papyrus or Asgore as ATs? Would suit them perfectly. Also, the emotional part really can't be done without a stage giving us those feels moments, as emotional impact isn't really needed despite being a key feature of Undertale. MineCraft isn't truly about combat at all: it's mainly exploration and resource gathering and building/crafting. While Steve/whoever could be a character, with such little to really go on due to the lack of combat focus and the requirement of crafting/building in his kit, it would be extremely difficult to craft such a mechanic in a fair and balanced manner that also feels fun AND properly represents the franchise. You can say 'it can be done' but how many of us saying 'it can be done' are game developers?
Not to be a prick, but it was 3 new Online modes, 1 new Smash mode and 1 new Games and More mode.
This makes sense, but I like my interpretation that they re-named Star Fox 64 to Lylat Wars specifically to spite Lucas.
Idk on the “classic characters can’t change cuz folks would lose their collective minds”, since ganon players have practically been begging for an overhaul since brawl. The slower stronger falcon style hasn’t exactly been kind to ganon since melee. Many ganon players would rather see him have an update. Give him his trident, give him the deadman’s volley, make his dark magic more integrated into his moveset....just no more sluggish falcon clone.Part of me really wants to keep this going, but the other part of me who is bored of the conversation and wants to meme is feeling stronger today. So have this:
So I don't leave your post with nothing, though, I will say some short things.
- Classic Characters can't really be changed that much, Classic being from N64 or Melee. As much as people want those characters to evolve and change based on their new games, there are very many more vocal fans who would lose their stack of pancakes if that happened. Thus, only minor changes can be made. Even BotW Link is a rather minor change.
- Not every game mechanic can be applied when you are a character, but they can be via stage or Assist Trophy. This is why I think other franchises can be better represented via stage/AT. Undertale is a bullet hell that has major emotional impact and choices that matter. You can't really reflect much of that in a character, but Sans, Undyne, Papyrus or Asgore as ATs? Would suit them perfectly. Also, the emotional part really can't be done without a stage giving us those feels moments, as emotional impact isn't really needed despite being a key feature of Undertale. MineCraft isn't truly about combat at all: it's mainly exploration and resource gathering and building/crafting. While Steve/whoever could be a character, with such little to really go on due to the lack of combat focus and the requirement of crafting/building in his kit, it would be extremely difficult to craft such a mechanic in a fair and balanced manner that also feels fun AND properly represents the franchise. You can say 'it can be done' but how many of us saying 'it can be done' are game developers?
Not to be a prick, but it was 3 new Online modes, 1 new Smash mode and 1 new Games and More mode.
Poor Starfy
3 new online modes, 1 new "Games & More" mode, and a new mode in Smash.
