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Official Genesis 6 Mega-Thread

MG_3989

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Here’s my obligatory post hoping for a FOW, Bestness, Shaky, or any other Ness main to make top 8 because then people would actually start seeing Ness as a legitimate threat in this game
 

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I will be watching later, but looking forward to more Zackray running people over.

I still have yet to see him Fair > Dair confirm this tournament, so that’s going on my Genesis Wolf Bingo card.

Already got Fair > Bair and Nair > Flash. Getting Nair > jab lock > Dsmash would be a nice bonus.
 

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I saw Fatality commit murder yesterday. Can we press F in this thread to pay respects for poor Izzy?
 
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Ziodyne 21

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I will be watching later, but looking forward to more Zackray running people over.

I still have yet to see him Fair > Dair confirm this tournament, so that’s going on my Genesis Wolf Bingo card.

Already got Fair > Bair and Nair > Flash. Getting Nair > jab lock > Dsmash would be a nice bonus.
Well Zackray 2-0'd Sonido in a mostly dominating fashion . That D-smash to take the game killed Sonic at not even 70% jeebus! Wolf had a lot of rage on him, but that move is nuts.

You have to fear when Wolf starts to trap you at the ledge and gets you in disadvantage, because he can kill you absurdly early there
 
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Likely the biggest upset so far

ImHip :ultolimar: 2-0 Gluttony :ultwario:

K9Spruce :ultwolf: 2-1 Salem :ultlink: In one amazing down-to the wire set. K9 taking it with that clutch b-air
 
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I really hope the matches on 2ggaming’s stream are uploaded on youtube and show properly. I keep seeing cool matches I wanna see on the stream but can’t even watch because of the insane lag.
 

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Character Representation in Top 64....
6x:ultolimar:
5x
4x:ultpalutena::ultfox::ultwolf::ultpichu:
3x:ultmario::ultrob::ultness::ultsnake:
2x:ultpikachu::ultmegaman::ultpeach::ultpokemontrainerf::ultbayonetta::ultwario::ultike::ultcloud:
1x:ultincineroar::ultpacman::ultlink::ultrichter::ultyounglink::ultmewtwo::ultmetaknight::ultdoc::ultkingdedede::ultgreninja::ultluigi::ultinkling::ultmarth::ultlucina::ultgnw::ultzss:

Total # of Unique Characters - 33

Some people I was just confused on who they main in this game: Z (Unsure if still Pikachu)


Winners

Tweek:ultwario: vs Captain Zack:ultbayonetta1:
Ally:ultsnake: vs ESAM:ultpikachu:
VoiD:ultpichu:vs Umeki:ultdaisy:
Shuton :ultolimar:vs Stroder:ultgreninja::ultluigi:
zackray:ultwolf: vs Sonix :ultsonic:
K9sbruce:ultwolf: vs yeti :ultmegaman:
Light :ultfox: vs SDX :ultmewtwo:
ZD:ultfox:vs Dark Wizzy:ultmario:
Nairo:ultpalutena: vs Klaatu:ultolimar:
Cosmos :ultinkling:vs Marss:ultike::ultzss:
Samsora:ultpeach: vs Sinji:ultpacman:
8BitMan:ultrob: vs LarryLurr:ultfox:
MkLeo:ultike:vs Myran:ultolimar:
Leffen:ultpokemontrainerf: vs WaDi:ultrob:
Dabuz:ultolimar::ultpalutena: vs FOW :ultness:
ImHip:ultolimar: vs MVD :ultsnake:

Losers
Prodigy :ultmario:vs Rain :ultcloud:
Shogun:ultsnake: vs Shaky:ultness:
Lima:ultbayonetta1:vs La Luna:ultpalutena:
Big D :ultkingdedede:vs
Eon:ultfox:vs Captain L:ultpichu:
Kobe:ultyounglink:vs Eldin:ultolimar:
Nakat:ultpichu:vs Legit :ultrichter:
Nietono :ultpichu:vs Glutonny:ultwario:
Abadango :ultmetaknight:vs false :ultwolf:
Mr.E :ultmarth::ultlucina:vs Z :ultpikachu:(?)
Zenyou:ultmario: vs Plup :ultmegaman:
Ez :ultrob:vs Regi:ultgnw:
TLTC :ultpalutena:vs Magister :ultincineroar:
Seagull Joe :ultwolf: vs Salem:ultlink:
BestNess:ultness: vs Pandarian:ultpokemontrainer:
Sparg0 :ultcloud:vs Lui$:ultdoc:
 
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Character Representation in Top 64....
6x:ultolimar:
5x
4x:ultpalutena::ultfox::ultwolf::ultpichu:
3x:ultmario::ultrob::ultness::ultsnake:
2x:ultpikachu::ultmegaman::ultpeach::ultpokemontrainerf::ultbayonetta::ultwario::ultike::ultcloud:
1x:ultincineroar::ultpacman::ultlink::ultrichter::ultyounglink::ultmewtwo::ultmetaknight::ultdoc::ultkingdedede::ultgreninja::ultluigi::ultinkling::ultmarth::ultlucina:

Total # of Unique Characters - 31

Some people I was just confused on who they main in this game: Z (Unsure if still Pikachu)


Winners

Tweek:ultwario: vs Captain Zack:ultbayonetta1:
Ally:ultsnake: vs ESAM:ultpikachu:
VoiD:ultpichu:vs Umeki:ultdaisy:
Shuton :ultolimar:vs Stroder:ultgreninja::ultluigi:
zackray:ultwolf: vs Sonix :ultsonic:
K9sbruce:ultwolf: vs yeti :ultmegaman:
Light :ultfox: vs SDX :ultmewtwo:
ZD:ultfox:vs Dark Wizzy:ultmario:
Nairo:ultpalutena: vs Klaatu:ultolimar:
Cosmos :ultinkling:vs Marss:ultike:
Samsora:ultpeach: vs Sinji:ultpacman:
8BitMan:ultrob: vs LarryLurr:ultfox:
MkLeo:ultike:vs Myran:ultolimar:
Leffen:ultpokemontrainerf: vs WaDi:ultrob:
Dabuz:ultolimar::ultpalutena: vs FOW :ultness:
ImHip:ultolimar: vs MVD :ultsnake:

Losers
Prodigy :ultmario:vs Rain :ultcloud:
Shogun:ultsnake: vs Shaky:ultness:
Lima:ultbayonetta1:vs La Luna:ultpalutena:
Big D :ultkingdedede:vs
Eon:ultfox:vs Captain L:ultpichu:
Kobe:ultyounglink:vs Eldin:ultolimar:
Nakat:ultpichu:vs Legit :ultrichter:
Nietono :ultpichu:vs Glutonny:ultwario:
Abadango :ultmetaknight:vs false :ultwolf:
Mr.E :ultmarth::ultlucina:vs Z :ultpikachu:(?)
Zenyou:ultmario: vs Plup :ultmegaman:
Ez :ultrob:vs
TLTC :ultpalutena:vs Magister :ultincineroar:
Seagull Joe :ultwolf: vs Salem:ultlink:
BestNess:ultness: vs Pandarian:ultpokemontrainer:
Sparg0 :ultcloud:vs Lui$:ultdoc:
ESAM vs Ally. Classic Brawl matchup is approaching.

That is a lot of :ultolimar: players that entered top 64, so that is also interesting (also, two :ultrob: in Winner's is pretty cool as well).

I might be wrong, but I think CaptainZack went all :ultdaisy: this tournament. Also, Marss plays both :ultzss: and :ultike:.
 
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ESAM vs Ally. Classic Brawl matchup is approaching.

That is a lot of :ultolimar: players that entered top 64, so that is also interesting (also, two :ultrob: in Winner's is pretty cool as well).

I might be wrong, but I think CaptainZack went all :ultdaisy: this tournament. Also, Marss plays both :ultzss: and :ultike:.
From what I saw on stream today, Zack was going Bayonetta and Marss went Ike only so far. ill add ZSS for Marss though
 

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Winner's Bracket
Round 1:
Tweek:ultwario: 3-0 CaptainZack:ultdaisy::ultbayonetta1:
ESAM:ultpikachu: 3-0 Ally:ultsnake:
VoiD:ultpichu: 3-1 Umeki:ultdaisy:
Shuton:ultolimar: 3-1 Stroder:ultgreninja:
zackray:ultwolf: 3-1 Sonix:ultsonic:
K9sbruce:ultwolf: 3-2 yeti:ultmegaman::ultsnake:
Light:ultfox: 3-1 SDX:ultmewtwo:
Dark Wizzy:ultmario: 3-2 ZD:ultfox:
Nairo:ultpalutena::ultlucina: 3-0 Nlaatu:ultolimar:
Cosmos:ultinkling: 3-0 Marss:ultzss::ultike:
Samsora:ultpeach: 3-2 Sinji:ultpacman:
Larry Lurr:ultfox: 3-0 8BitMan:ultrob:
MkLeo:ultike: 3-0 Myran:ultolimar:
Leffen:ultpokemontrainerf: 3-1 WaDi:ultrob:
Dabuz:ultolimar::ultpalutena: 3-1 FOW:ultness:
MVD:ultsnake: 3-2 ImHip:ultolimar:


Loser's Bracket

Out at 49th:
Prodigy:ultmario: 3-0 RAIN:ultcloud:
Shaky:ultness: 3-1 Shogun:ultfox:
Lima:ultbayonetta1: 3-0 La Luna:ultpalutena: (Impressive both got this far)
Big D:ultkingdedede: 3-0 MuteAce:ultpeach:
Captain L:ultpichu: 3-1 Eon:ultfox:
Kobe:ultyounglink: 3-0 Eldin:ultolimar:
NAKAT:ultpichu::ultinkling: 3-0 Legit:ultrichter:
Glutonny:ultwario: 3-1 Nietono:ultpichu:
Abadango:ultmetaknight: 3-0 False:ultwolf:
Mr E:ultmarth: 3-2 Z:ultpikachu:
Zenyou:ultmario: 3-2 Plup:ultmegaman:
Regi:ultgnw: 3-2 Ez:ultrob:
Magister:ultincineroar: 3-2 TLTC:ultpalutena:
Salem:ultlink: 3-1 Seagull Joe:ultwolf:
BestNess:ultness: 3-1 Pandarian:ultpokemontrainer:
Lui$:ultdoc: 3-1 SpargO:ultcloud:
 

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ESAM :ultpikachu:3-2 over Tweek :ultwario: in one of the hypest sets I've ever seen in any Smash game period. If you didn't catch it please do when it gets uploaded on YouTube, it's well worth the watch.
 

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ESAM :ultpikachu:3-2 over Tweek :ultwario: in one of the hypest sets I've ever seen in any Smash game period. If you didn't catch it please do when it gets uploaded on YouTube, it's well worth the watch.
It was so good that it managed to be engrossing despite the stream freezing up 1/3 of the time,.
 

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Magister:ultincineroar: is on a wild rampage through loser's bracket. Just defeated Stroder:ultgreninja: 3-2 to advance to top 32. Just to note: this tourney is using the 1.2.1 version of Incineroar and not the newly buffed 2.0.0 version.
 

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VoiD 3-2 over Shuton:ultolimar:. After losing game 1 with :ultpichu: pretty badly, VoiD took it home with his :ultwolf:.
 

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Zackray's :ultwolf: is just on a whole other level

Now he 3-0'd Light, the first game he made the comeback 1 stock to 3. This kid is unreal
 
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Winner's Bracket
Round 2:
ESAM:ultpikachu: 3-2 Tweek:ultwario:
VoiD:ultpichu::ultwolf: 3-2 Shuton:ultolimar:
zackray:ultwolf: 3-0 K9sbruce:ultwolf:
Light:ultfox: 3-0 Dark Wizzy:ultmario:
Cosmos:ultinkling: 3-2 Nairo:ultpalutena::ultlucina:
Samsora:ultpeach: Larry Lurr:ultfox: (In Progress)
MkLeo:ultike: 3-1 Leffen:ultpokemontrainerf:
Dabuz:ultolimar::ultpalutena: 3-2 MVD:ultsnake:


Loser's Bracket
Out at 33rd:
Prodigy:ultmario: 3-2 ImHip:ultolimar:
FOW:ultness: 3-1 Shaky:ultness:
WaDi:ultrob: 3-1 Lima:ultbayonetta1:
Myran:ultolimar: 3-1 Big D:ultkingdedede:
8BitMan:ultrob: 3-2 Captain L:ultpichu:
Sinji:ultpacman: 3-1 Kobe:ultyounglink:
Marss:ultzss::ultike: 3-2 NAKAT:ultpichu::ultinkling:
Glutonny:ultwario: 3-0 Nlaatu:ultolimar:
Abadango:ultmetaknight: 3-1 ZD:ultfox:
SDX:ultmewtwo: 3-1 Mr E:ultmarth:
yeti:ultmegaman::ultsnake: 3-0 Zenyou:ultmario:
Sonix:ultsonic: 3-1 Regi:ultgnw:
Magister:ultincineroar: 3-2 Stroder:ultgreninja:
Salem:ultlink: 3-2 Umeki:ultdaisy:
Ally:ultsnake: 3-1 BestNess:ultness:
CaptainZack:ultdaisy::ultbayonetta1: 3-1 Lui$:ultdoc:
 

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One big takeaway I’ve had from today is that Leffen is for real and is already beating and keeping up with the best Smash 4 players in the world in Ultimate. Runinning into Leo’s Ike was a bad break because Ivysaur really doesn’t like Ike. I think he should’ve stayed Squirtle more against Leo. Still the fact that he played so close to Leo and beat Wadi shows that he isn’t just doing this for hype or stream views he’s for real. He also made due on his edgeguarding talk taking a ton of stocks off edgeguards and while Leffen has a ton to learn from Smash 4 pros, Smash 4 pros have a ton to learn about edgeguarding from Leffen (although edgeguarding has seemed more consistent this tournament all around)
 

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Speaking of Leffen, he's out at 17th to Yeti who played :ultmegaman: for that set. Very impressive play by both, especially Leffen with the Game 1 comeback. (Ivysaur on that last stock was vicious.) Pokémon Trainer is definitely a threat to look out for, that's for sure. Mega Man is also a monster, especially buffed Leaf Shield that's still good post-patch (!!!), just not as free.
 

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Leffen actually plans on switching mains and keeping PT as a secondary. He admitted that he felt like his result was held back by PTs many flaws.

Also, poor shuton, he just can't win vs wolf.
 
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Leffen actually plans on switching mains and keeping PT as a secondary. He admitted that he felt like his result was held back by PTs many flaws.

Also, poor shuton, he just can't win vs wolf.
It honestly kind of looks like that at times, especially when he can’t get that opening Squirtle combo and Charizard does nothing. I just hope he continues to play the game (I definitely think he will he seems super hype about it) because I think he has the potential to be one of the best players in the world at Ultimate (I mean with a top 17 result at Genesis you could already say he’s up there)

Also it’s a shame that FOW and Shaky had to play in losers automatically giving one of the Ness’s a lose. Another thing that stands out to me here is there are very few unexpected characters left around right now. The top 64 looked kind of like you’d expect it to
 

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Top 8: :ultike::ultwolf::ultfox::ultpeach::ultpichu::ultpikachu::ultinkling:(:ultpalutena::ultolimar:)
Top 16: :ultolimar::ultolimar::ultdaisy::ultmegaman::ultsnake::ultmario:(:ultwario::ultwolf:)(:ultlink::ultlucina:)
Top 24: :ultwolf::ultfox::ultrob::ultmario::ultwario::ultmewtwo::ultpokemontrainerf:(:ultpalutena::ultlucina:)
Top 32: :ultincineroar::ultpacman::ultness::ultsonic::ultzss::ultinkling::ultrob:(:ultsnake::ultmario:)
Top 48: :ultolimar::ultolimar::ultness::ultness::ultbayonetta::ultmario::ultdoc::ultdaisy::ultkingdedede::ultgnw::ultmarth::ultgreninja::ultfox::ultyounglink::ultpichu:(:ultpichu::ultinkling:)
Top 64: :ultolimar::ultcloud::ultcloud::ultfox::ultfox::ultpalutena::ultpalutena::ultpeach::ultrichter::ultpichu::ultwolf::ultwolf::ultpikachu::ultmegaman::ultrob::ultpokemontrainer:

Highest placings only:
Top 8: :ultike::ultwolf::ultfox::ultpeach::ultpichu::ultpikachu::ultinkling::ultpalutena::ultolimar:
Top 16: :ultmegaman::ultlink::ultsnake::ultmario::ultwario::ultlucina:
Top 24: :ultrob::ultmewtwo::ultpokemontrainerf:
Top 32: :ultincineroar::ultpacman::ultness::ultsonic::ultzss::ultrob:
Top 48: :ultbayonetta::ultdoc::ultkingdedede::ultgnw::ultmarth::ultgreninja::ultyounglink::ulticeclimbers:
Top 64: :ultcloud::ultrichter:
Top 96: :ultbowserjr::ultfalcon::ultfalco::ultmetaknight::ultken::ultchrom::ultshulk::ultluigi::ultlucas:
Top 128: :ultbowser::ulttoonlink::ultlittlemac::ultdk::ultdiddy::ultyoshi::ultlucario:
Top 192: :ultzelda::ultpit::ultswordfighter::ultridley::ultroy: (might have missed some)

Non-Echoes Missing: :ultcorrin::ultduckhunt::ultganondorf::ultisabelle::ultjigglypuff::ultkrool::ultkirby::ultbrawler::ultgunner::ultrobin::ultrosalina::ultsamus::ultsheik::ultvillager::ultwiifittrainer:

FWIW :ultganondorf: and :ultroy: we also on the #1 and #4 doubles teams respectively.

Olimar was the big winner, broadly speaking. But we observe that all the top 8 characters are played by a small but non-zero number of other top players. (Less so Ike and Pika, throw in Mario) There is also a diversity gap between top 48 and everyone else.

Curiously, Chrom is on the far side of the gutter. Also, for all the good Robin play I've seen, they didn't seem to show up at Genesis.

I'm calling small sample size on DHD and WFT, who tend to just be rare by virtue of hyper-niche appeal. Corrin, Rosa, and Sheik have just been left behind entirely by their previously sizeable player bases. It is appropriate in the simple context of this event that Puff, Brawler, and Rosa got the buffs as they did. Bowser's tune-up also doesn't seem amiss--if he is "the best heavy", he isn't really performing as such. Ganon also continues to underperform initial hype; then again, that doubles GF...
 
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Salem actually used Lucina throughout his Loser's Run to beat Seagull Joe, Umeki, Magister, and Larry Lurr to get 13th.
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I just want to say that it's crazy hype how many entrants there were, and how hype the matches were. Also I was pleasantly surprised at the character variety. I mean, it's not amazing, by any means, but I just had low expectations in that department.

And thanks Thinkaman and mods for that compiled character breakdown by finish. It's much appreciated!
 

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There's a certain irony to Abadango losing to the only top Mewtwo after dropping the character in the transition.

I can't remember for sure, but it feels like this has happened before?
 

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I checked the placements, and I gotta say, I am really impressed with CaptainZack's run in this tournament. With his :ultdaisy: (and his :ultpeach:) he has slain Ally:ultsnake:, Nairo:ultpalutena::ultlucina:, and Salem:ultlink::ultlucina:. Definitely showing up to be one of the best :ultpeach::ultdaisy: players in the world.
 

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With the Top 8 remaining, I want to hear everyone's Impressions of the tournament so far.

Cause it has been truly shocking!!

If you haven't watched it yet, you really need too.
 

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Top 8:
Winners:
VoiD (Pichu, wolf) vs Zackray (wolf)
Samsora (Peach) vs MKLeo (Ike)

Losers:
ESAM (Pikachu) vs Light (Fox)
Cosmos (Inkling) vs Dabuz (Palutena/Olimar)
 

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As much as I'm pro ESAM, I did not expect him to get this far! If he plays today like how he did yesterday I think he could beat Light. And Light is scary.
 

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I'm interested in seeing the full character spread.
I believe WFT was used by at least 3 players (Houston, TkBreezy and someone else who used her one round) unless BestNess used her once too.
 
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