General ICs Q&A Thread

[BadKarma]

I timed out a TL last tourney :D He raged lol

 

[ZTD | TECHnology]

/kicking from skype chat.

I just dropped TL.

 

[EverAlert]

nah tech chase I love vsing TLs, I usually smash them, I was mainly posting that as a bit of irony.

 

[ZTD | TECHnology]

TL was actually my first character in this game but then I got bored with him lol

 

[Sieguest]

/kicking from skype chat.

But wait.... that means I'mLux is next.

 

[Blissard]

If your opponent doesn't tech the dthrow>fair spike when possible, what's the best follow up? I usually just spam desynced Ice Blocks, but is there a better option?

 

[DeLux]

Ice block > grab

 

[r3d d09]

People think the fair spike is a lock, it isn't they can Sdi out of it.

for trolling, i'd fair spike, IB, see where they are going. if it's infront of me and to where they don't get hit by the block to make them get stunned. I desync and have nana block and i follow it, let it him them, then grab.

if they SDI behind you, run past them, and pivot grab. They usually think you're just going to turn and grab. the pivot grab 1. makes it so you're less likely to get hit by a getting up attack, and 2. larger grab range. be smart, and you can easily win with IC's.

 

[EverAlert]

If your opponent doesn't tech the dthrow>fair spike when possible, what's the best follow up? I usually just spam desynced Ice Blocks, but is there a better option?

Just don't do that in the first place, seriously. Just chaingrab their ***.

 

[DeLux]

Just don't do that in the first place, seriously. Just chaingrab their ***.

What if you're at a chaingrab banned tourney?

 

[Sieguest]

What if you're at a chaingrab banned tourney?

Start using MK because the TO is gay for banning CGs and not MK.

 

[r3d d09]

you can go around the chaingrab thing, just change up the chaingrabs. you can also get better at reading people. that's always fun

 

[DeLux]

false

If chain grabbing is banned, you need to do the next to closest thing to the banned tactic.

So you would smobble/hobble.

If that is also banned, then you would IB lock to DSG IB chaser to IB lock to repeat.

Duh.

 

[EverAlert]

What if you're at a chaingrab banned tourney?

ragequit and go home.

 

[Rubberbandman]

What if you're at a chaingrab banned tourney?

Either
vvv This vvv

Start using MK because the TO is gay for banning CGs and not MK.

Or time everyone out with Wario/MK.

 

[r3d d09]

... if they ban chaingrabs... Still chaingrab and laugh in their face

 

[ZTD | TECHnology]

Just argue that it's a tech chase because the TO is probably a giant scrub and doesn't know what a tech chase is.

 

[Roller]

Just argue that it's a tech chase because the TO is probably a giant scrub and doesn't know what a tech chase is.

I'm telling Super about this. ;]

 

[Mr. game and watch]

I picked up IC about... and hour ago, and basically i wanna know what ice block is, and how to do theese so called greatest chain grabs EVAR?

 

[Sieguest]

I call trolling to the highest degree. ^
Outdated, but still, basic stuff is easily found here.

 

[DeLux]

Ice block is the name we give for Ice Shot, which is the neutral special.

Which one is the greatest chaingrab ever? Link to a video and I'll exp

 

[Mr. game and watch]

trolling on me?
and not a certain one... i still read the wiki when i find a character lol. said they have amazing chain grabs and everyone in heres talkin about dthrow and fthrow chaingrabs.

 

[Sieguest]

Yes, all of the basic IC stuff can be found in that guide I just linked, which is a sticky. It's nigh impossible to miss.

As to the grabs: Practice, that's all you can do to become proficient with them.

 

[Mr. game and watch]

ahh kk. i kinda meant like the metagame and adv techniques but ima go see that thread now...oops.

edit: i now get desynching, and will work on CG's and...all the other crap that was in there
spen an hour in that thread
am i best IC yet?

 

[EverAlert]

probably, since you're the only newbie who's ever bothered to read it.

 

[Mr. game and watch]

leet. and i read ALL of it. except the defense i took in way too much last night. need to read it again today.
ALSO: the Fthrow CG, im having toruble with it. either the foe breaks out and goes into the air or i make nana walk but popo throws. i can only get in like 4 grabs before my CG is done.

 

[EverAlert]

You want to be walking during your CGs, that's a good thing. Try to be gentle yet firm with the control stick, it is possible to CG fast while still having them walk-grab. There are rare instances where you want to dash, you will realize these on your own in time, but for now just focus on walk-grabbing your throws.

Other than that there isn't much to say, just practice practice practice until you get the feel for it.

 

[Sieguest]

If the foe breaks out, then you're CGing WAY too slow. Nana should be walking when Popo begins the throw. For most characters spacings Nana should continue walking forward until it's time to regrab. (The only ones odd in this respect are the Earthbound characters) Whenever you're CGing, pay attention to the spacing relationship between Nana and Popo whenever you are successful in getting the regrab so you can give yourself an image of about when to regrab.

Although the IC sound cue project is still in progress, the rhythm for fthrow->fthrow is done. So get your hands on it whenever you get a chance.

 

[Mr. game and watch]

k the guides i read are confusing. so you grab with Popo, and then Fthrow and immediately grab with Nana?

 

[EverAlert]

yes that is correct

 

[Mr. game and watch]

got it. will practice on the marth in training now xD

 

[MARLX]

What is the match up between ice climbers and falco?

 

[ZTD | TECHnology]

I'm telling Super about this. ;]

Maybe I wanted you to see this post.

 

[ch33s3]

What is the match up between ice climbers and falco?

9-1.

10chibos

 

[Mr. game and watch]

whats the MU between lain and M2K?

Marlx use your MU thing on the wiki.

 

[Rubberbandman]

What is the match up between ice climbers and falco?

People still even GO Falco in the MU? I though we scared everyone but Optimus Prime Falco (aka Larry) into going something else.

 

[r3d d09]

Game and watch bro. Post legit stuff or I'll report Thanks.

 

[ZTD | TECHnology]

Pretty sure Larry is the one person who still thinks ICs/Falco is only 55-45 for ICs...lawl.

 

[Hylian]

I really really want to play larry. He's like the only top player I haven't played yet lol.

 

[Sieguest]

Game and watch bro. Post legit stuff or I'll report Thanks.

Compared to the numerous times all the other posters here (myself included) have posted illegitimate banter, Mr. Game and Watch posts once out of topic and he's threatened to be reported?

Double standards in this thread?