Ultimate General Discussion Invitational

[Ultomato]

Because Everyone wants to fight each other for some reason.

Tournament will take place this Sunday.
It's sceduled to start at 18:00 Dutch time (12:00 EST) but if that's An issue you can contact the others in your pool to play matches earlier in the weekend.

Enter by asking nicely.

7 minute 3 stocks, best 2 out of 3.
Stage list still changeable so giveth your input please.

Neutral:

Battlefield/Dream Land/Midgar

Final Destination/Wily Castle/Pictochat/Umbra Clock Tower

Pokémon Stadium (1 or 2)/Unova League
Smashville
Town and City

Counter:

Yoshi's Story
Frigate Orpheon
Yoshi's Island
Lylat Cruise
Castle Siege
Skyloft
Kalos League
Halberd
Prism Tower
Warioware

Stages that I'm still unsure about:
Mushroom Kingdom U
Duck Hunt
Fountain of Dreams
Gamer


Prize is absolute honour and total domination of the General Discussion.
(And all the Chicken Nuggets in the world, on Noipoi 's request)

Bonus rule: No complaining about other people's wifi!

Discord for convenience

 

[Deleted member]

Count me in

What time on Sunday will it start?

 

[Pakky]

I want to be in *burp*

 

[Just a penguin]

I'm joining the battle, too. What time is it?

 

[Ultomato]

Count me in

What time on Sunday will it start?

The time is as of yet uncertain.

Meaning: I live in the Netherlands and find 12:00 Dutch time perfect, but I don't know what that corresponds to

So I'll be looking into that

 

[Deleted member]

Count me in

 

[ColietheGoalie]

Interested, depending on the time

 

[Ultomato]

Okay, stages are a thing.

Neutral:

Battlefield/Dream Land/Midgar
Final Destination/Wily Castle/Pictochat/Umbra Clock Tower
Pokémon Stadium (1 or 2)
Warioware
Smashville
Town and City

Counter:

Rainbow Cruise
Yoshi's Story
Frigate Orpheon
Yoshi's Island
Lylat Cruise
Castle Siege
Skyloft
Kalos League

And then there's some I want peoples opinions on because I usually have them turned on myself.

Stages I turn on because I'm insane
Peach's castle
Brinstar
Green Greens
Luigi's Mansion
Reset Bomb Forrest
Uwu Island
Dracula's Castle
Saffron City

Stages that would be legal if they were smaller
Kongo Jungle
Mushroom Kingdom U
Duck Hunt

That one issue
Fountain of Dreams

Stage that I REALLY like
Norfair

Stages with 1 second walkoffs that are fine in every other aspect
Halberd
Prism Tower

Randomly generated stages can actually be pretty interesting as Neutral stages as long as they can't make walls or walkoffs
Gamer

So please give me your thoughts so I can make a decent list

 

[Deleted member]

99% okay with the Neutrals and Counter Picks except...

Rainbow Cruise

Walls is a big no no imo.
It'd be fine otherwise but a lot of characters can abuse it way too easily
As for the rest

Peach's castle
Brinstar
Green Greens
Luigi's Mansion
Reset Bomb Forrest
Uwu Island
Dracula's Castle
Saffron City

Gods please no

Stages with 1 second walkoffs that are fine in every other aspect
Halberd
Prism Tower

I don't get why the competitive scene suddenly acts like Halberd's two dmseconds of walk-off are a problem only now but I'm all for these two, especially now that Halberd's hazards can be turned off

That one issue
Fountain of Dreams

Stage that I REALLY like
Norfair

I like FoD but I understand not wanting to risk lag. Even more so with it being way too much like BF with hazards off

Norfair is eww


Recommendation: add Unova

 

[Deleted member]

i have church must it be sunday?

 

[PsySmasher]

I’m interested, but I may back out. Depends on what time it is.

 

[Deleted member]

I’m interested, but I may back out. Depends on what time it is.

this for me too

 

[Moydow]

Hey, this site ain't big enough for the both of our tournaments

except it probably is so /in I guess

 

[Ultomato]

For people asking about time and stuff: it'll start at 18:00 Dutch time, which corresponds to 12:00 EST apperently.
[Insert rant about timezones]

 

[Deleted member]

Count me in “bruthah.”

 

[Moydow]

5pm where I am, which is... actually not a great time for me. I'd get maybe one match in at that time if I start at exactly 5pm, but after that I won't be around until about 9:30pm-ish. If it's possible to work around that then count me in, if not then I'll just drop out.

 

[ClaTheBae]

have you got a stagelist yet

 

[Noipoi]

How many chicken nuggets do I win if I participate?

 

[Ultomato]

99% okay with the Neutrals and Counter Picks except...

Walls is a big no no imo.
It'd be fine otherwise but a lot of characters can abuse it way too easily
As for the rest

Gods please no


I don't get why the competitive scene suddenly acts like Halberd's two dmseconds of walk-off are a problem only now but I'm all for these two, especially now that Halberd's hazards can be turned off

I like FoD but I understand not wanting to risk lag. Even more so with it being way too much like BF with hazards off

Norfair is eww


Recommendation: add Unova

Peach's Castle is a bit of an odd one. My Friends usually allow it because none of us really knows how to do wall-combo's but I guess I'll take it out Just to be safe.

The insanity stages and Norfair were an expected no but it was worth a shot.

FoD is odd as well. My Friends always allow it because none of us play that frame perfect and the drops aren't that bad offline. Also this'd be a hazards on stage otherwise it's Just An inconvenient Battlefield

 

[Just a penguin]

have you got a stagelist yet

Upwards.

 

[staindgrey]

9am PST on a Sunday?

If I'm awake, I'm in.

 

[ClaTheBae]

Upwards.

oh okay nvm lol that stagelist is awful no offense

 

[Just a penguin]

9am PST on a Sunday?

If I'm awake, I'm in.

Well, yeah. Otherwise, you'd be taking "I can do this in my sleep" to a whole new level.

 

[Moydow]

the timezone issues here are why my tournament will be better so you should sign up for that instead
https://smashboards.com/threads/nintenzone-ultimate-showdown-sign-ups-open.478663/

 

[Ultomato]

oh okay nvm lol that stagelist is awful no offense

That is in no way a finished stagelist yet tho.
Any form of constructive input is welcome.

I will be adding a work-in-progress stagelist to the OP

 

[Ultomato]

How many chicken nuggets do I win if I participate?

All of them

5pm where I am, which is... actually not a great time for me. I'd get maybe one match in at that time if I start at exactly 5pm, but after that I won't be around until about 9:30pm-ish. If it's possible to work around that then count me in, if not then I'll just drop out.

I'm thinking of asking for peoples timezones and making Pools accordingly to fix this type of issue

 

[Just a penguin]

So what's the bracket looking like? Who's playing against who?

 

[ClaTheBae]

Rainbow Cruise

This stage is a huge nope. Blastzones are way too close to the sides and the wall+the way the stage is curved lends it to some degenerate gameplay

Warioware

This stage is debatable but it certainly shouldnt be a starter

Skyloft

much too campy since the main platform is semi soft

Lylat Cruise

I know a lot of stage lists leave lylat legal, but even without tilting the ledges are still very inconsistent

Stages I turn on because I'm insane
Peach's castle
Brinstar
Green Greens
Luigi's Mansion
Reset Bomb Forrest
Uwu Island
Dracula's Castle
Saffron City

I understand you aren't legalizing these but these all are bad

Stages that would be legal if they were smaller
Kongo Jungle
Mushroom Kingdom U
Duck Hunt

kongo jungle is illegal because of the rock, not because of the size

 

[Zinith]

Sorry, I can't do it...

 

[Deleted member]

Count me in.

 

[Ultomato]

This stage is a huge nope. Blastzones are way too close to the sides and the wall+the way the stage is curved lends it to some degenerate gameplay

This stage is debatable but it certainly shouldnt be a starter

much too campy since the main platform is semi soft

I know a lot of stage lists leave lylat legal, but even without tilting the ledges are still very inconsistent

I understand you aren't legalizing these but these all are bad

kongo jungle is illegal because of the rock, not because of the size

I don't think we're talking about the same Kongo Jungle

 

[Ultomato]

So what's the bracket looking like? Who's playing against who?

Depends heavily on the ammount of admissions

 

[Just a penguin]

I don't think we're talking about the same Kongo Jungle

In melee, the waterfall stage was called Kongo Jungle, but now it's called Kongo Falls, with the above picture being the Kongo Jungle on Smash 64, which retained its name.
Hope this clears it up.

 

[ClaTheBae]

I don't think we're talking about the same Kongo Jungle

Still not banned due to size.

Semi soft main platform as well as the hazardless version having the platforms too high

 

[Ultomato]

I have updated the OP with stuff

 

[PsySmasher]

For people asking about time and stuff: it'll start at 18:00 Dutch time, which corresponds to 12:00 EST apperently.
[Insert rant about timezones]

OK. That should be a good time for me. Unless I oversleep.

 

[Deleted member]

*delete please*

 

[Deleted member]

Yes!!! Warioware is legal my Ness be having a field day back throw can kill at 80%

 

[Deleted member]

I would love to participate!
When’s it on, if you don’t mind?

Edit: It’s at 3:30am where I am when it’s on. . Sorry.

 

[Ultomato]

I would love to participate!
When’s it on, if you don’t mind?

For people asking about time and stuff: it'll start at 18:00 Dutch time, which corresponds to 12:00 EST apperently.
[Insert rant about timezones]

Although this is not a set-in-stone time as timezones make it hard to coördinaten stuff. I'm working on a system