Ganonic Grimoire (Social) - Commiseration and Hierarchy

[Z1GMA]

I believe it's sideB which allows you to survive an extra 5-10% from the middle of a stage, but the best practical means would be uair to buffered double fair.

What do you mean by this, Tero?
Side B right away?
...Double Fair?

 

[Exalted]

Canadorfs are in a class of their own, it seems.

 

[Dumbfire]

What do you mean by this, Tero?
Side B right away?
...Double Fair?

I think he means Side b is the best momentum cancel. Is it one of those moves that cance'ls all momentum immediatly? Immideatly do a "b' move is never smart since those can only be used in the third fase of hitstun, so you should do an arial and fastfall it to get into the second phase faster and to already lose some momentum with the fastfall, then you can proceed to do the b move / jump.

 

[Z1GMA]

I think he means Side b is the best momentum cancel. Is it one of those moves that cance'ls all momentum immediatly? Immideatly do a "b' move is never smart since those can only be used in the third fase of hitstun, so you should do an arial and fastfall it to get into the second phase faster and to already lose some momentum with the fastfall, then you can proceed to do the b move / jump.

You don't understand the question.

 

[Dumbfire]

I understand you already know the second part just added that for extra information..
Tero can't mean immedaitly side B becuase that is unuseful. You seem annoyed by me.

 

[Exalted]

DOUBLE FAIRS.
Question time.

 

[SuSa]

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Reply to me via PM or on my wall. Feel free to discuss it among yourselves and your community as well.

 

[Exalted]

I think some people take the BBR and Brawl in general a little bit too seriously. But that's just me.

 

[Z1GMA]

I made an accurate diagram of the Tier List:

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A Tier
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B Tier
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C Tier
D Tier
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E Tier
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F Tier
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G Tier

Wadda you guys think?

 

[Terodactyl Yelnats]

O shi Z1gster. I meant to say double JUMP fair

 

[Z1GMA]

O shi Z1gster. I meant to say double JUMP fair

That's what I thought, heh.

About Momentum Canceling... Uair -> Up+B stops horizontinal knockback pretty well, since Ganon starts moving forward right away, which he doesn't when you side+b / down+b.
This is what I believe -- Not saying you're wrong.
I really dunno which one's better.

WP is coo', too.

 

[Heartstring]

so, for horizontal, u-air, jump, f-air?
vertical is obviously u-air + down

 

[Exalted]

Shouldn't vertical knockback be countered with a Dair?

 

[Heartstring]

if you fastfall it, it doesnt matter all that much, but you can slow down faster with u-air because its his fastest ending aerial (i think, what ends faster uair or bair?)

 

[Exalted]

They're pretty equal, but I think Uair is a few frames quicker.

 

[Heartstring]

right, so u-air it is then ^.^

 

[Allied]

Yo Vermanubis practice doubles so we can team and **** sometime you evil fool.

 

[the king of murder]

I hope Ganon's new form is something like this.

 

[Exalted]

Dat cigar.

 

[Dumbfire]

so, for horizontal, u-air, jump, f-air?

No. This is only useful for when you REALLY need it.
First you Uair, you always do it. You forgot an important thing, FASTFALL, the Uair. If you don't fastfall, you won't reduce any knockback at all. What performing the Arial does is switching to the third phase of hitstun faster. In the third fase, you can perform a Double Jump or special as well as arials and airdgodes ofcourse. In the second phase you can only do arials or airdogdes. So you Uair to get to the third phase faster, and fastfall it so you loose some momentum as well. This will let you live a bit longer already.

Now, if you really, really need it, you Double Jump after it. If you waste the double jump by this way, you will have a really hard time recovering. So, only do it when you really need it. Double Jumping will counter the horizontal momentum, but the game has this special feature, when you do a special or double jump when still in knockback, you will get a magical "boost" backwards from where you came from, so its possible that you still die (Donkey Kongs Up B, G&Ws down B, and YOshis Side B don't have this special apllication due to a coding error, so if you ever wondered why people Down B with G&W etc, thats becuase it automaticly cancels all momentum). If you think you will still die, you can fair behind it and fastfall that too. But this leaves you very open for gimps. Getting hit by any arial will have you left pretty low (if you don't DI the hit) and with no double jump left, only Ganons trash Up b.

So watch out and don't waste your DJ when you don't need to waste it.
Also, this hack you posted is pretty old.

@Z1gma: I'm sorry for yesterday I was grumpy D:

 

[Exalted]

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[Ganonsburg]

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I <3 WW Ganon. TP Ganon and OoT Ganon are cool, but WW Ganon....hm. WW Ganon is probably the deepest character in the entire LoZ series. On top of that, he takes a face-full of dragon fire and comes back as if nothing had happened. TP Ganon is cool too, as he just does stuff without showing weakness and is pure awesome, but WW Ganon just brings it home for me.

 

[Exalted]

Nintendo must leak concept art of SS (Nazi) Ganon D:

 

[황미영]

MEIN TRIFORCE! -Touches-

 

[GoV]

I like TP's Ganon most. He just looks too awesome etc.
Melee/Ocarina Ganon is ugly. But awesome though.

Oh and WW ganon looks fat and old.

 

[Exalted]

OoT with TP graphics.
Please.

And I'm looking for more manly matches. I just got owned by fought GoV and I'm thirsty for blood.

 

[황미영]

I like all incarnations of Ganondorf, but for Ganon I like OoT the best. The rest are too silly. xD EVIL BLUE PIGS!

 

[Exalted]

The Ganons are chillin' in the Sacred Realm:

"OoT Dorf: What happened to you?
WW Dorf: 12 year old, stabbed me in the forehead...
OoT Dorf: Wow, harsh. So, what's your story?
TP Dorf: I got a weakness...for fishing rods..."

(And yes I know Ganon is the same person/pig/potato in every game.)

 

[Dumbfire]

There are multiple storylines. THey say that WW is when Oot stayed like that with the monsters, and TP is when Hyrule came back to normal. So that might actually be possible.

 

[Exalted]

But they never imply that there's multiple Ganondorfs as opposed to Links, since it's always "You're the new Hero of XXXX" and so on so forth.

 

[Espy Rose]

TPdorf is da bess.

OoTdorf has a long, pointy Pinnochio nose.

 

[Jane]

how many ganons are there in total? someone should compile a list (with pictures as a plus :3)

 

[Exalted]

But Ocarinadorf ****ing plays a pipe organ <3
And Princessdorf is just...awesomesauce.

Edit: Good idea Jane. I'll do it unless someone beats me to it >:U

 

[Vermanubis]

I feel that our previous incarnation in OoT was... not quite doing justice to our supremely evil being. Despite Twilight Princess being a disgrace to our legacy as far as the game itself goes, I feel it was our zenith. But we are Ganondorf; we perpetually recast and reshape the very reality in which we reside. We form reality. We force the boundaries of infinity to accommodate our power.

Twilight Princess' horrible quality was inversely proportional to our power in it. The game could not have one be so evil, and the accompanying game be any form of "good."

 

[Exalted]

So, which is your favorite? Lol

 

[Dumbfire]

I like Tp becuase of his sad and darker storyline then msot Zelda games (xept MM).
And then the great graphic quality, the length of the game, and once again the nice story.
The soundtrack is like.. 80 percent sad songs lol

 

[Exalted]

Majora's Mask is effing epic. I love the depth and sadness of the story, watching how people continue their every-day lives not knowing that they'll die in three days. And the Stone Tower Temple's actually somewhat difficult. Majora's final form = Tentacle ****.


You've met with a terrible fate, haven't you?

 

[황미영]

Stone Tower is redunkulous. >:C (With a blind walkthrough. xD)

If Skullkid possesed by the Majora's Mask was a playable character, I'd toss Ganon to the side. >w>

Majora's Mask is my favorite antagonist in Zelda.

 

[Vermanubis]

So, which is your favorite? Lol

Wind Waker lol.

If Skullkid possesed by the Majora's Mask was a playable character, I'd toss Ganon to the side. >w>

Majora's Mask is my favorite antagonist in Zelda.

Give me one reason to ban your *** right now.

 

[Exalted]

I made it through Stone Tower with all Stray Fairies on my first try with no walkthrough <3

Majora is actually more evil than the 'Dorf. He ****ings drops a badazz moon on Termina (which is Spanish for "he/she/it ends") just 'cause he is bored.

*Prepares for Gannon-Banning at the blood-covered hands of Verm.*