Gamedaily claims that Marth and Roy are gone

[User33]

http://www.gamedaily.com/articles/g...youll-love-super-smash-bros-brawl/135/?page=5

This was apparantly written by "Brian Dawson" from Prima.

Is there any truth to this?

 

[InvincibleAgent]

I wouldn't trust it. It may be true, but that's hardly a reliable source.

 

[vesperview]

He's not even claiming anything 100%, he's saying Marth and Roy could be replaced with Ike and Lyn, or that's really old or the guy doesn't know a thing about AT's.

 

[PITforREV]

Sounds believable to me

 

[Jackal478]

I actually think they'll both be leaving, and i'm a Marth main.

But you cant really trust random people for their word.

 

[balladofwindfishes]

yea sounds believable especially since it is possible Lyn could be a newcomer, it's not like she was announced as an Assis.... oh wait >_>

Marth will return I mean my god, I don't think this guy knows a thing about FE, or even Smash for that matter. It's like replacing Rick Wheeler for Captain Falcon, it just won't happen.

Besides, FE is a series that is very very very popular in Japan, and quite popular in the US. FE will get more than 1 rep, it would be crazy to believe a person who already has a moveset and is a vet and the first and only 3 time lord of FE to not return.

Roy not so much, but I still think he'll pull through on US popularity, but not making any calls just yet on Roy

this is pure false :/

 

[Psydon]

He's not even claiming anything 100%, he's saying Marth and Roy could be replaced with Ike and Lyn, or that's really old or the guy doesn't know a thing about AT's.

Pardon me, but all he says is:

"Smaller changes such as removing Marth and Roy and replacing them with Ike and Lyn (who's an assist trophy) have players up in arms."

So, so much for the author being an idiot. Can we get serious now? >>

Let's face it, people, there has been absolutely no indication that either Marth or Roy will come back, and plenty of indications that Sakurai is getting rid of them and moving on.

I.E. Creating and revealing Ike, despite "M4R7H I5 T3H FIRE EMBLEM M45C07!!!!11!1one"

Not just that, this guy also realized that plenty of people are pretty pissed. In fact, there's nothing FE-related in this article that's wrong.

People, face it, they're gone. Deal with it. I know how you feel...to an extent. I want Marth to come back, provided he gets a few massive nerfs so he can be balanced with the rest of the cast, and especially with Metaknight (who is another reason why I highly doubt Marth is coming back).

 

[Emblem Lord]

eh.

Marth's first game is being remade for the DS and is supposed to be coming to America so I don't see why they would take Marth out.

If he is going then Nintendo is some idiots.

 

[balladofwindfishes]

Huh?
Why so pessimistic and down over an article written by someone who might not even be real staff. Is this site credible? They were wrong on most of the other "good" points of brawl they pointed out, so why not misinterpret the Dojo updates.

There are no indications on Dojo that Marth isn't returning. Infact there is more indications he IS returning

Ike isn't a clone of Marth

The FE level emcompasses the entire series... if Ike was the only one why not just show his series.

The FE icon on Dojo is Marth's sword

Sakurai DOES care that Marth was the first lord, the alpha and omega of the series. Why would he include him in Melee if he didn't fit the brick there?

There is no logical reason besides and article that could be a LIE to gain popularity. :/ no other site has this and I can't find anything to make this site, or this user, credible.

Besides, it could just be his interpretation of the Dojo updates.

Rule of thumb for me, if it doesn't have a Wiki article or is Nintendo's own site, it isn't a reliable source for gaming news.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Search?search=Gamedaily&go=Go

 

[Emblem Lord]

Ok, wow.

Just read the articles on Brawl on that site.

It's just regurgitated info from the brawl dojo.

Yeah. Those guys know nothing. >_>

lol. They also know nothing about the game mechanics saying that tether recovery is an enhancment when it's been around since N64 I believe.

Also posting a pic of Mario when talking about this was made of lose.

Failure.

 

[Mr. Game and Pichu]

Marth is in, Roy is cut.

Meh, he got half right, but unless he is sakurai i aint listening to him.

 

[shinnok-fan64]

i won't believe him until i see proof that he's right.

But i do think Marth will be in SSBB, but Roy will be cut.

 

[raphtmarqui]

How would an AT replace a playable character?

 

[Okysho]

He's not even claiming anything 100%, he's saying Marth and Roy could be replaced with Ike and Lyn, or that's really old or the guy doesn't know a thing about AT's.

Ike replacing Marth is deconfirmed via evidence on the Marth support thread.

 

[gigasteve]

HELLO! If this is true about the strategy guide, Bryan Dawson has the game! Does anyone know him?

 

[Zevox]

How would an AT replace a playable character?

Precisely. That would be mind-bogglingly stupid of Nintendo, especially considering that Marth was one of the most requested characters for Melee in Japan and is still the biggest Fire Emblem character out there (to the point where hes starring in the next FE game to boot), while Lyn is not liked at all in Japan and is instead popular internationally. Besides, everything else in that article is just Dojo information regurgitated (seriously, they used wide screen as one of their "reasons you'll love Brawl" - its painfully obvious they're just leeching off the Dojo), so theres no reason to believe that that statement is any more than the typical ignorant assumption on the part of a westerner with little to no knowledge of Fire Emblem and no inside knowledge of Brawl.

I.E. Creating and revealing Ike, despite "M4R7H I5 T3H FIRE EMBLEM M45C07!!!!11!1one"

Case in point. Ike being in has no impact on Marth at all. Ike has plenty of reason of his own to be in - hes popular in Japan and the most popular FE character elsewhere in the world, hes the star of two of FE's games (something only Marth can claim otherwise), and he was highly requested for Brawl (4 mentions in Sakurai's "poll"), and it makes perfect sense that Marth has not been revealed yet, since (shock and awe) no previously-unlockable veteran has been (you'd almost think Sakurai planned it that way, eh?). Ike gave FE fans a character to look forward to sooner than Marth could because of that.

Besides, given what is known of Ike, it makes no sense to claim hes replacing Marth. For one, even though by their Fire Emblem in-game stats they should have been fairly similar in terms of abilities, Ike is nothing like Marth in Brawl - hes the epitome of slow and strong, more so than Bowser, and only a couple of his moves bear any resemblance to Marth's (he has more moves that look and act like Link's than Marth's). If he were replacing Marth, why give him such abilities, especially considering they're totally contrary to the abilities he displays in his own games? And of course as a Fire Emblem character he just doesn't measure up to Marth - hes not as popular as Marth in Japan, not as recurring as Marth, nor as iconic to the series as Marth. In addition, Marth is a veteran who made it into Melee on sheer popular demand and was quite well-liked in it the world over, and who has no reason to be removed to begin with. No matter how you look at the facts of the matter, they all add up to the conclusion that it would be utterly senseless for him to be out.

Zevox

 

[Hippochinfat]

Fail


tea jam bread.

 

[Hippochinfat]

But seriously marth is cool and I really want him in but people should stop saying "HES STARIN IN DA NEXT FE GAME" because it's a remake, not a new game. People are making it sound like it's brand new.

 

[Flaminglink]

who cares lol Ike is way cooler than marth at least. Marth is a wussy he wears a tiara!

 

[Santini]

I really wouldn't trust this. They're obviously just assuming. Plus, it would be a dumb move to remove Marth.

 

[Emblem Lord]

who cares lol Ike is way cooler than marth at least. Marth is a wussy he wears a tiara!

If your sister or someone close to you died and she gave you a momento to remember her I'm sure you would always keep it with you.

Don't hate on a guy just cuz he honors his sisters memory.

 

[Zevox]

who cares lol Ike is way cooler than marth at least. Marth is a wussy he wears a tiara!

Right, wearing his sister's tiara in memory of her absolutely makes Marth a weak individual .

And yet the irony is that in spite of appearance-based assumptions like this Ike is the one with an implied homosexual relationship while Marth's romance is with a princess.

But seriously marth is cool and I really want him in but people should stop saying "HES STARIN IN DA NEXT FE GAME" because it's a remake, not a new game. People are making it sound like it's brand new.

Yet we do know there will be new content - one new character was revealed the very day the game was announced, and content that was cut from the third game has been shown to be back to boot - and the last "remake" of his first game included an entire second "book" that doubled the size of the game. We don't know the extent to which the game will be a remake and how much will be new in it, and in any event it doesn't matter, since its still a new game to everyone outside of Japan and is still a third game to Marth's name, something no other FE character has.

Zevox

 

[Fanewgie]

Why would they cut Marth? They're REMAKING the first Fire Emblem (his game) for the DS. Cutting him would be completely goofy.

Then again, they had no good reason to cut Ness either.

 

[Emblem Lord]

Ike plus Soren = Ike is teh gayz.

Marth plus Sheeda = Marth is teh pimp.

GG Ike.

 

[Dark Sonic]

But seriously marth is cool and I really want him in but people should stop saying "HES STARIN IN DA NEXT FE GAME" because it's a remake, not a new game. People are making it sound like it's brand new.

Well, it just means that his game is popular enough to go international, despite how old it is.
They're actually adding a few new things to it, too. They're adding the weapon triangle, supports, Magic coexisting with strength, replacing weapon skill with weapon ranks, and even adding a few new characters. It's also the first FE game to have Wi-Fi, so that'll be cool.

I got all my info from Serenes Forest and FESS.

who cares lol Ike is way cooler than marth at least. Marth is a wussy he wears a tiara!

So Marth is a wuss because he keeps a momento giving to him by his dead sister.

Yet another uneducated person talking about someone they don't know.

 

[Zevox]

Then again, they had no good reason to cut Ness either.

Aye, but in his case for some reason Sakurai always wanted Lucas in instead (he said as much on the old Melee site). Odd, I'll be the first to admit, but at least its a reason.

Zevox

 

[LuLLo]

This dude knows nothing, just look at the other images and the text below...

Picture 1: Seems reasonable, even a 10 year old could figure this...
Picture 2: Knockout Barrier?? How does he know those things?
Picture 3: Thether recovery a new technique? No, it was in Melee, and showing a pic of Mario doing his Up-B is just noob....
Picture 4: SSE Online????????
Picture 5: Just wait and see who's in and who's not...

Enough evidence this guy definitly makes things up in his mind....
Just got to the Marth thread and discuss there...

 

[Brav3r]

i think that guy is just making his own asumptions
ike shouldn't be the only Fire Emblem PC.

 

[blayde_axel]

Picture 4: SSE Online????????

All that needs to be said.

 

[TheMastermind]

Believe it? they just made this crap up.
They don't know anything, because if they did they would have put some facts in their magazine
instead of random opinionated coments

 

[NF Alex]

apparantly written by "Brian Dawson" from Prima.

There's your answer. 100% fake.


Seriously Prima can't even get things right when they own the game, how the hell are they supposed to know stuff about a game that hasn't been released yet.

 

[WuTangDude]

HELLO! If this is true about the strategy guide, Bryan Dawson has the game! Does anyone know him?

Exactly.

THIS GUY IS WRITING THE PRIMA GAME GUIDE FOR BRAWL.

He already knows who's in and who isn't.

Smarten up guys.

 

[WarxePB]

If it's not on the Dojo, it's probably a hoax. That's my theory, and it seems to have held up for the most part. That article with Ganondorf and Sheik's models, and Luigi and Jiggs confirmed in videos notwithstanding, but other than Sheik, they're all shoe-ins.

 

[XACE-K]

It's all lies.

 

[Masque]

I still wouldn't be surprised if Marth left, though. Pit already took the bishounen role for Brawl.

 

[Dreamking]

I think Marth will return, Roy not so much. Marth was one of the reasons why FE got over to the US in the first place. His stage could even be Akaneia, which you will remember was listed in Melee's debug stage list and is the name of Marth's home.

I guess we'll just have to wait and see.

 

[Emblem Lord]

I still wouldn't be surprised if Marth left, though. Pit already took the bishounen role for Brawl.

Then wtf is Ike?

Just cuz he is rugged looking doesn't make him less of a pretty boy.

 

[Blindman]

I doubt that any not returning character won't make it in as an AT.

 

[freeman123]

I know that guy. He's right, Marth is being replaced by Lyn. Not only that, he told me that Luigi and Jigglypuff are being replaced by Waluigi and Groudon. Also, Falco is being replaced by the Franklin Badge and Ganondorf is being replaced by Pokemon Stadium 2.

It's all true. Deal with it.

 

[VVayfarer]

Who cares? There's already Ike. It would be a waste of space to include other FE characters.
Oh, and Roy has a better chance of coming back (IMO).