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Pokkén Tournament Frame Trap and Setup all from One move?

Kjackice

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Lucario's jumping Weak Attack is really good for setting up combos and Grabs, Its also really good for baiting out Counter Attacks and Grabs. Its best use is for block staggering your opponent and leaving them open for a grab. I don't really know why his weak attack staggers vs blocks but its an amazing thing to know because it throws off the your opponents defense game.
 

WusijiDR

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Its also top notch for catching people in aerials and its cool to use while youre landing behind someone since the times Ive played, they expect an aerial X
 

Bowserboy3

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Lucario's jumping Weak Attack is really good for setting up combos and Grabs, Its also really good for baiting out Counter Attacks and Grabs. Its best use is for block staggering your opponent and leaving them open for a grab. I don't really know why his weak attack staggers vs blocks but its an amazing thing to know because it throws off the your opponents defense game.
I'm new to these kind of fighting games, so sorry for sounding like a noob...

But what do you mean by "staggers vs blocks"? I know by "block" you mean your opponent's block/shield, but what do you mean by "stagger"?
 

Tchukkelz

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But what do you mean by "staggers vs blocks"? I know by "block" you mean your opponent's block/shield, but what do you mean by "stagger"?
If an attack staggers on block that means that the opponent can't easily retaliate if they block the move, usually because they are stuck in the blocking animation or because they get pushed back too far.
 
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If an attack staggers on block that means that the opponent can't easily retaliate if they block the move, usually because they are stuck in the blocking animation or because they get pushed back too far.
So a bit like a high shield stun move in Smash?
 

Envioux

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So a bit like a high shield stun move in Smash?
Something like that, in other words it traps the enemy in recovery frames (while their shield is still up) during the animation where the character is unable to drop shield or input any other command. This is called a frame trap, and during it they are open to being grabbed.
 
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bluesm0ke

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I found the most optimal follow-up after aerial weak: aerial weak->strong->bonerush+a->high stance weak->dash->extreme speed

Does like 280-ish. Extreme speed can be substituted out for another bonerush+a without the dash for the same damage. Only works if the aerial weak is the first hit you connect in duel phase, otherwise the string will be interrupted by a phase shift. with the first bonerush or the high stance weak
 
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