Fox and Skyworld

[NDUDE]

I'm sorry if you all have already discussed this, but I just saw this video, and I have 2 things to comment on:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o3uOB1hhZl8&feature=related

Now, look at 00:54 - 00:55, and look at Fox.

- Due to the fact that characters can now grab from behind as well as grab upon contact with a platform (as opposed to passing it, falling, THEN grabbing it like in SSB/M), this opens up room for new tactics. The most obvious, from this video anyway, is the ability for Fox to Fox Illusion from one platform and grab another. This can be used to escape from an attack and possibly edgehop something in. This can also be used to quickly edgehog. See? We're already finding more and more different tactics!

- The reason I'm bringing Skyworld into this is because I'm aware that some stages are banned in SSBM tourneys due to character advantages like Peach and Fox. I'm not a pro at dissecting and analyzing stages, but I'm just wondering: would this new strategy lead to the banning of certain stages like Skyworld in SSBB tourneys? Skyworld doesn't seem that bad when it comes to using such a technique, but it's something to consider...

Thanks for reading.

 

[InvincibleAgent]

Hey good point. **** Fox.

 

[Corax The Cold]

looks like a cool technique, i cant think of anyway to exploit it to ur advantage tho

 

[Yeroc]

It's going to be pretty difficult to realistically devise or debunk an abuseable tactic without actually playing the game. That said, if all Fox is doing is hopping around from edge to edge using the invincibility as a stalling method, it's probably nothing to worry about. Such things exist in Melee and it's no big deal. It's defensive in nature, not offensive, so it shouldn't be too problematic.

 

[NDUDE]

looks like a cool technique, i cant think of anyway to exploit it to ur advantage tho

- stalling
- dodging then edgehopping
- edgeguarding

That's what I can think of...

 

[xyouxarexuglyx2]

looks like a cool technique, i cant think of anyway to exploit it to ur advantage tho

Illusioning like **** around the place with risky punishment, that's how. Go watch Forward play on Jungle Japes.

 

[NDUDE]

Illusioning like **** around the place with risky punishment, that's how. Go watch Forward play on Jungle Japes.

Jungle Japes is a haven for Fox and Falco players who like spamming Side B...