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Final Smash Classifications & Character Predictions based on them

skeletim

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So far as I can tell there are 5 classifications for final smashes; Projectile-Mario, Samus, Lucas, Pokemon Trainer. Physical-Link, Ike , MetaKnight. Stampede- King Dedede, Pit. Transformation- Yoshi,Wario, Sonic, Diddy Kong, Fox, Pikachu, Bowser. Magic- Dk,Peach, Kirby, Ice Climbers. This thread serves really no purpose, but just thinking that they usually try to stay balanced on stuff like this, so if 7 is the max for one type of final smash you should expect atleast 35 characters in this game. PLZ don't flame my first post.
 

skeletim

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Now based on these classifications and the fact that their are 23 charcthers currently, 3 of which don't have a Final Smash listed yet (Zamus, Snake, Zelda,). That leaves spots open if my theory is correct. 3 projectile, 5 stampede, 4 physical, and 3 magic type smashes left. Here are some of my predicitions. I would really like to hear everyone elses.

projectiles-
Snake; calls Otocan for an air strike.
Megaman; Screen filling mega buster similar to Mario's final smash.

stampede-
Claus; summons a gang of pig mask people to help.

Physical-
Ridley; dive bombs, and grabs people to drop them off the edge.
Simon Belmont; goes on a huge whip and cross barrage.

Magic-
Zelda; uses lots of fire and lighting to ko her enemies.

I would really like everyones input.
Thanks
 

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Now based on these classifications and the fact that their are 23 charcthers currently, 3 of which don't have a Final Smash listed yet (Zamus, Snake, Zelda,). That leaves spots open if my theory is correct. 3 projectile, 5 stampede, 4 physical, and 3 magic type smashes left. Here are some of my predicitions. I would really like to hear everyone elses.

projectiles-
Snake; calls Otocan for an air strike.
Megaman; rush fusion if classic form, one of his armors if megaman X form.

stampede-
Claus; summons a gang of pig mask people to help.

Physical-
Ridley; (that final smash would have sucked, all they would have had to do is recover!)
phason absorbation, he transformes into phason ridley and boosts/alters his stats and attacks, similar to wario's final smash style)
Simon Belmont; uses that technique were he summons an energy cross aura around him that damages his enemies.(used in portrait of ruin, I havnt played any others but it seems good enough)

Magic-
Zelda; how about she raises her hands and shoots light in all directions?(think of how link does when he finds the items for pose). it cant be avoided but doesnt do a whole lot of damage.

I would really like everyones input.
Thanks
I edited your post to what I think would be a little more effective. I dont know if they all work but I think these are a little more fitting.
 

KirbyWorshipper2465

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Here are some of my predictions:

projectiles-
Captain Syrup; summons her genie, which snaps its fingers and causes moneybags to rain down from the sky.

physical-
Captain Falcon; rapidly punches an individual opponent 100 times!

transformation-
Mr. Game & Watch; transforms into that giant octopus(from the Game & Watch of the same name) and tosses around whoever it grabs with its tentacles.

That is all I have for the moment.
 
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I would classify them as follows:

Performance (Usually a powerful attack or technique, you have no control of the character until the Final Smash ends).
Mario
Link
Kirby
Peach
Samus
Zero Suit Samus
Donkey Kong
Ike
Meta Knight
Pokémon Trainer


Ignition (Character calls something out and can then be contolled normally while the Final Smash is taking place, but is not altered him/herself).
Lucas
Pit
Ice Climbers
King Dedede


Transformation (The character themself changes and remains in this state for a brief time).
Bowser
Pikachu
Diddy Kong
Wario
Fox
Sonic
Yoshi
 

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How is this different than putting on a costume and eating garlic to gain the ability of flight?
Are you following my posts or something? Wario turning into WarioMan is a transformation because it's a complete variation of the character with different stats, something Diddy, Pikachu and Fox, don't do, next time you try make me look like an idiot at least revise your posts so you're not the one making yourself look even more stupid.
 

Zenigame

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Are you following my posts or something?
Why? Because you posted in a thread I was already reading/had already posted in (the NEW RUMOR thread), and I happened to read your post here? Don't flatter yourself, please.


Wario turning into WarioMan is a transformation because it's a complete variation of the character with different stats, something Diddy, Pikachu and Fox, don't do,
Since when did flight + Peanut Poppers or flight + electricity not become a change in stats?

next time you try make me look like an idiot at least revise your posts so you're not the one making yourself look even more stupid.
:chuckle: Personal attacks on the internets. lol
 

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Why? Because you posted in a thread I was already reading/had already posted in (the NEW RUMOR thread), and I happened to read your post here? Don't flatter yourself, please.
Because when you automatically see a post of mine you try to post some smartass **** to try to prove me wrong and you fail, that's why.

Since when did flight + Peanut Poppers or flight + electricity not become a change in stats?
See what I mean, now you're not arguing why they are transformations but rather pointing out the stats, again to try to make me look as if I don't know what I'm talking about, in case you don't know IDIOT, a transformation like Zero Suit or Wario Man makes the characters even lightier or heavier, stronger or weaker than their counterparts, and it's fully playable until you grab another Smash Ball, which doesn't apply to Diddy and Pikachu, flying through the stage uncontrollably.
 

Simon_Belmont

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I don't know about the "7 for each type" theory but, I always thought that maybe Simon's FS could be the Stopwatch, and while everything is freezed, his whip would turn into the Flame Vampire Killer and etc. This would be classified as a transformation, right?
 

Zenigame

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Because when you automatically see a post of mine you try to post some smartass **** to try to prove me wrong and you fail, that's why.
2 responses. Stalking for sure.


See what I mean, now you're not arguing why they are transformations but rather pointing out the stats, again to try to make me look as if I don't know what I'm talking about, in case you don't know IDIOT, a transformation like Zero Suit or Wario Man makes the characters even lightier or heavier, stronger or weaker than their counterparts, and it's fully playable until you grab another Smash Ball, which doesn't apply to Diddy and Pikachu, flying through the stage uncontrollably.
No one said they were transformations like] that of Zero Suit Samus. Wario Man = temporarily change stats, change abilities. Diddy/Pika = temporarily change stats, forces flight. Different kinds of transformations.

PS: Pssst, personal attacks on the internet = auto fail, in case you didn't know.
 

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No one said they were transformations like] that of Zero Suit Samus. Wario Man = temporarily change stats, change abilities. Diddy/Pika = temporarily change stats, forces flight. Different kinds of transformations.
sakurai said:
Even after becoming Wario-Man, you control him as you normally would. And he doesn’t unleash any overwhelmingly powerful attacks.
This seems like enough evidence to call it either a Zero Suit type transformation, or a Giga Bowser type transformation, still, not even in one sentence of the Wario Final Smash update does it say it's temporary, so please stop trying to come up as if you know what the hell you're talking about ok? Idiot!
 
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Equipping a jet pack and shooting peanuts is not a transformation, neither to get on board a Landmaster or to have a huge thunder barrier around you.
Maybe not by conventional standards, but for the purposes of classifying them, yea it is. Their attributes or control style changes in some way for a short amount of time, that's all I'm trying to say.

Zero Suit Samus isn't one because the Final Smash itself is not a transformation (again, by the definition I provided). Zero Suit Samus is not the Final Smash.
 

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Maybe not by conventional standards, but for the purposes of classifying them, yea it is. Their attributes or control style changes in some way for a short amount of time, that's all I'm trying to say.

Zero Suit Samus isn't one because the Final Smash itself is not a transformation (again, by the definition I provided). Zero Suit Samus is not the Final Smash.
I think Samus's fits both areas, transformation and projectile.
 
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I think Samus's fits both areas, transformation and projectile.
I don't know, I see why people would say that, but I just think likening that transformation to something like Bowser's Final Smash is like saying Giga Bowser is a separate character. Becoming Zero Suit Samus is part of the Final Smash, but being Zero Suit Samus is not. Yes, she transforms when you use that word as it would be used in everyday language. But what i'm trying to point out is that the change is a permanent one and does not occur during the Final Smash itself. Samus's and Zero Suit Samus's Final Smashes are closer to Mario's or Link's than Bowser's or Yoshi's.
 

skeletim

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I would classify them as follows:

Performance (Usually a powerful attack or technique, you have no control of the character until the Final Smash ends).
Mario
Link
Kirby
Peach
Samus
Zero Suit Samus
Donkey Kong
Ike
Meta Knight
Pokémon Trainer


Ignition (Character calls something out and can then be contolled normally while the Final Smash is taking place, but is not altered him/herself).
Lucas
Pit
Ice Climbers
King Dedede


Transformation (The character themself changes and remains in this state for a brief time).
Bowser
Pikachu
Diddy Kong
Wario
Fox
Sonic
Yoshi
I think our defintions are almost interchangable and I might have been reaching alittle with 5 categories.

Equipping a jet pack and shooting peanuts is not a transformation, neither to get on board a Landmaster or to have a huge thunder barrier around you.
...but sprouting wings and shooting fireballs is somehow different then using a jet pack and pop guns[sarcasm]

Technically, we already know Zamus' Final Smash. She just gets her suit back on.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-9bqdOH3js0

Watch at around 50 seconds.
Ok so Samus is a projectile/performance type and Zamus is a transformation type.


Also Pikachu litteraly becomes a ball of light, so he is a transformation type, and Samus losing her suit is not a transformation but instead a disadvatage. Like Dk's not being able to fs on a scrolling stages or Yoshi's fs possibly end in mid air, etc.
 

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I have a suspicion that although Zelda's final smash will likely have something to do with fire or light, it may also transform her into Shiek, thus fitting into a similar category as Samus. I hope this isn't the case but i could totally see her causing like a fire/smoke explosion stunning all opponents and emerging as Shiek. I think the addition of Samus' transformation was in a way Sakurai's answer to people neglecting half a character because one is more effective than the other (Shiek's popularity vs Zelda's) and forcing them to learn to play effectively with the entire character. Wow, that final smash theory turned into a rant. Sorry.
 
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I have a suspicion that although Zelda's final smash will likely have something to do with fire or light, it may also transform her into Shiek, thus fitting into a similar category as Samus. I hope this isn't the case but i could totally see her causing like a fire/smoke explosion stunning all opponents and emerging as Shiek. I think the addition of Samus' transformation was in a way Sakurai's answer to people neglecting half a character because one is more effective than the other (Shiek's popularity vs Zelda's) and forcing them to learn to play effectively with the entire character. Wow, that final smash theory turned into a rant. Sorry.
Zelda will NOT transform into Sheik via Final Smash. Absolutely not. That's how Samus transforms because she needed a new mechanic to do it, since all her moves were filled up. Zelda already has her method, so if she transforms at all I can guarantee 100% it won't be with a Smash Ball.
 
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