Faster 64 (lower input latency)

[Cyjorg]

Are there any known ways to increase emulation speed? If so I've come up with a little hack that halves the framerate of the game. 1/2 game speed * 200% emulation speed makes for lower input latency.

Let's make this a thing

 

[UnclePunch]

Thanks for the cred for the idea and for finding the codeline bud

I appreciate it if you would've answered my question and not take my idea and run with it.

 

[Cyjorg]

Thanks for the cred for the idea and for finding the codeline bud

I appreciate it if you would've answered my question and not take my idea and run with it.

1. You didn't find the right line of code or understand what was happening. You were close
2. You couldn't have gotten as far as you did without me answering your question about where the training mode setting was.
3. Before you asked the question, you asked me to do this hack for you.
4. I did answer your latest question on "what to do if a codeline is only in RAM" in certain situations by giving you a start. This should allow you to produce hacks on your own, instead of just giving you what do in this case by explaining parameters, return values, JALs, and sharing my comments that helped me find the actual advanceFrame() function when it was literally in front of your face.
5. If the hack was released, your name would have been on it.

No need to be so petty. Advance the game and relax and credit (that you literally would've gotten). You don't see me complaining about not getting credit for hacks in 20XXTE because I'm just glad people are benefiting as that is the ultimate goal.

 

[Uair]

1. You didn't find the right line of code or understand what was happening. You were close
2. You couldn't have gotten as far as you did without me answering your question about where the training mode setting was.
3. Before you asked the question, you asked me to do this hack for you.
4. I did answer your latest question on "what to do if a codeline is only in RAM" in certain situations by giving you a start. This should allow you to produce hacks on your own, instead of just giving you what do in this case by explaining parameters, return values, JALs, and sharing my comments that helped me find the actual advanceFrame() function when it was literally in front of your face.
5. If the hack was released, your name would have been on it.

No need to be so petty. Advance the game and relax and credit (that you literally would've gotten). You don't see me complaining about not getting credit for hacks in 20XXTE because I'm just glad people are benefiting as that is the ultimate goal.

Calm down buddy just give the guy his credit for helping you.

Also what is this even about? Less delays? What are you measuring as input latency? I understand what you're doing, I just don't understand how it's practical in anyway. Can we get a demonstration?

 

[UnclePunch]

1. You didn't find the right line of code or understand what was happening. You were close
2. You couldn't have gotten as far as you did without me answering your question about where the training mode setting was.
3. Before you asked the question, you asked me to do this hack for you.
4. I did answer your latest question on "what to do if a codeline is only in RAM" in certain situations by giving you a start. This should allow you to produce hacks on your own, instead of just giving you what do in this case by explaining parameters, return values, JALs, and sharing my comments that helped me find the actual advanceFrame() function when it was literally in front of your face.
5. If the hack was released, your name would have been on it.

No need to be so petty. Advance the game and relax and credit (that you literally would've gotten). You don't see me complaining about not getting credit for hacks in 20XXTE because I'm just glad people are benefiting as that is the ultimate goal.

1. I traced the code and saw it JAL'ing in different spots when a new frame was drawn. I just wanted an answer to a question. I didn't tell you everything I found because I just wanted to know if I could accomplish branching to this line of code in VS Mode. I spent like 10 minutes in the debugger and explored one option by messaging you.
2. I didn't know what cheat search was until 6 months ago (when i asked you). Its insanely easy to find the training code address.
3. I asked you over 6 months ago and you never did anything with it, so I took it into my own hands and grinded out ASM learning
4. You made a thread about it before you answered my question.
5. Thats fine, if I spent a day on this I wouldn't care. I spent countless hours in the past few months learning enough of a background to accomplish this and now the guy I looked to for help took the idea and didn't credit me for anything. I don't think its hard to see why its frustrating.

 

[UnclePunch]

Calm down buddy just give the guy his credit for helping you.

Also what is this even about? Less delays? What are you measuring as input latency? I understand what you're doing, I just don't understand how it's practical in anyway. Can we get a demonstration?

Thanks for the concern dude. Yeah, I was trying to accomplish the same lag reductions Faster Melee had when it was on the 120FPS build.

 

[tehz]

Man, I miss smashboards.

 

[caneut]

Man, I miss smashboards.

blame the mods letting smasherx run loose

 

[Uair]

blame the mods letting smasherx run loose

This troll has embodied the 64 section of smashboards. Mods don't even do realize who you are despite countless evidence.

Sad to see netplay so dead for us Americans/europeans. The japanse still have tons of players on all the time.

 

[caneut]

This troll has embodied the 64 section of smashboards. Mods don't even do realize who you are despite countless evidence.

Sad to see netplay so dead for us Americans/europeans. The japanse still have tons of players on all the time.

smasherx i know i banned you from my server but my server has decent activity. gets dead in american late hours but ya,

mods pls ban smasherx

make smashboards great again

 

[Uair]

smasherx i know i banned you from my server but my server has decent activity. gets dead in american late hours but ya,

mods pls ban smasherx

make smashboards great again

I know you're smasherx74. Cuddly told me.

also when I say the japanese servers are more populated, they have like 40-60 people on sometimes with tons of smash bros being played.

 

[Morin0]

I know you're smasherx74. Cuddly told me.

Cuddly told me.

 

[ownage]

Love the thoughts on this. Just curious. Could this solve the issues of Starcraft 64? As any game progresses, the emulation slows down to probably less than half speed.

 

[Uair]

Love the thoughts on this. Just curious. Could this solve the issues of Starcraft 64? As any game progresses, the emulation slows down to probably less than half speed.

On PJ64k? There are tons of reasons why emulation would slow down/speed up certain parts if not an entire game.

Sounds interesting to look into.

 

[ownage]

On PJ64k? There are tons of reasons why emulation would slow down/speed up certain parts if not an entire game.

Sounds interesting to look into.

Not just PJ64k (or NetPlay), really any emulator, or even the original N64 for that matter. I believe there's slightly less slow down on the original hardware than the ROM. If the game were able to somehow utilize the computer's hardware, I don't see why this issue wouldn't be able to be fixed. We're talking 3-4 hour Starcraft games that could easily be reduced by an hour each if they ran at full speed (like when we spawn in the beginning). Let me know your thoughts!

 

[suiken_2mieu]

In project64 you can uncheck "limit fps," but you'll need to use something like msi afterburner to limit the fps to 120fps.

 

[Morin0]

Any updates om this? Are you still pursuing this, jorg?