Fair to Footstool.

[Boxob.]

It was ignored in my other topic about boxtechs and the list that I never made.

If you fair, but go past them for the last hit that would regularly knock them away,you can footstool easily out of it.

Can you kids implement it into your game for a bit and let me know how it works out?

 

[JayBee]

it sounds like a meaty fair is needed. idk, this sounds mad inconsistant, but u know me, i always try stuff like this. im in for now.

 

[da K.I.D.]

from what i hear, this is -blue-'s main method of attack, no offence, but this junk is crazy old

 

[Boxob.]

from what i hear, this is -blue-'s main method of attack, no offence, but this junk is crazy old

Really? D:

I did it a while ago, and was so excited lol.

I can do it pretty consistently.

 

[JayBee]

if so, then maybe you guys can show it to me? plz?

 

[da K.I.D.]

yea, its part of teh reason he camps so well/hard with sonic, because he can fair them, and if they shield it, he gets a footstool to dair combo.

 

[OFY]

Yea blue told me about this also. This also sets up for a footstool combo to jab lock.

 

[Camalange]

I was the one who brought up Blue doing this in last thread.

It's really sexy.

He punishes shield with footstool dair.

BBQHAX

 

[JayBee]

let me get this right: if you fair, and they block, you can footstool> dair them.

if you fair and they get hit, you get footstool to jab lock?

 

[OFY]

let me get this right: if you fair, and they block, you can footstool> dair them.

if you fair and they get hit, you get footstool to jab lock?

Yes on the first one.

On the second one, if you fair them and they shield, you can footstool> upB> Dair> Jab Lock. Don't think you could get a footstoll off you Fair at higher perecentages, probably lower.

I posted a thread in the summer about Sonic's Footstool combo with ASC or with side b.

 

[JayBee]

so, this only works if they block the fair, right?

 

[da K.I.D.]

no they dont have to, if they di out before the last hit, you can Facejump dair them then too

 

[JayBee]

got it. , lol, youf think id know this stuff already with the lab. but that's this only proves that im one person, i guess...

and that i dont post enough...

 

[da K.I.D.]

its not about posting, its about being observant, if you search the forums as much as i did, even if you never had an account and just lurked you would still know just as much as i do.

 

[JayBee]

lol i think i just went down on the tier list.

anyways, gonna practicec some brawl now... gonna add this to my game.

 

[JayBee]

im having a hard time doing it. someone plz show footage.

 

[GimR]

umm, if someone Shields the footstool, nothing happens except for you flying up higher into the air. You can't jab lock someone if they shield a foot stool. Maybe you guys mean sometihing else, I dunno

 

[aeghrur]

We mean if they shield it and we footstool, apparently we can still D-air and eat part of their shield like blue does. Awesome.

 

[thecatinthehat]

We mean if they shield it and we footstool, apparently we can still D-air and eat part of their shield like blue does. Awesome.

spring drop is a better option.

dairing their shield is just asking for punishment.

dairing is only a good option if they have a low shield.

 

[Orange_Soda_Man]

I have a ton of trouble landing footstools competitively. Is there a video guide on how to do it with some of these combos?

/iamtotallyascrublolhaxorzandiloledatbbqhaxabove

 

[Jim Morrison]

Lrn2side-Bfootstool. It's the easiest to pull off and leads to a jab lock.

 

[Boxob.]

Actually, I was referring to offstage.

like a way to kill people.

 

[Chis]

We mean if they shield it and we footstool, apparently we can still D-air and eat part of their shield like blue does. Awesome.

Then shield grab?

spring drop is a better option

What if they shield the spring, then follow your movement while in the air?

Actually, I was referring to offstage.

like a way to kill people.

This.

 

[JayBee]

Actually, I was referring to offstage.

like a way to kill people.

lol now u say that?


and you know u can't footstool shileds, right?
I'm done listening to you now...

 

[thecatinthehat]

What if they shield the spring, then follow your movement while in the air.

Better than being helpless in lag right next to them.

You have a better chance @ fending them off by springing.

 

[Anthinus]

Actually, I was referring to offstage.

like a way to kill people.

Running of the edge>Fair>DJ>FSJ... Something like that do you mean? It could be good, but isn't it easy to escape for the opponent? (Maybe they'll have enough time to DJing or doing an Up B to grab the edge...). I think the traditional Bair Stage Spike is more reliable...

If isn't running from the edge I don't know, It could be more viable maybe...

Better than being helpless in lag right next to them.

You have a better chance @ fending them off by springing.

I agree with you here. If you do it immediatly Chis's scenario can happen. But if you wait a bit to spring up, the opponent could drop the shield (when you get a bit away people tend to drop their defense). Dair (if the shield isn't small enough) can finish in a free grab for the opponent.

BTW, I usually do an Uair when the last hit of a SH Fair fails (on ground). Only the first hit lands (then you get a bit of lag) but it really confuses when it hits.

 

[Camalange]

I still can't do these Fair>FSJ shenanigans D:

 

[Browny]

im thinking this is something similar to what i did in my tourney video in the latest mini-steak WSC entry (the one from 0:58 to 1:04) The fair had no knockback and it left wolf directly below me, but i went for a bair instead. i probably could have footstooled but i think it requires the other players to DI behind you, only get hit by the weak parts of fair and be a fast faller in order to have them beneath you so you can footstool them. i cant check vid @ work so idk lol

 

[Tenki]

Actually, I was referring to offstage.

like a way to kill people.

ooohhh i brought that up once in the how2killwsonic thread but it was a WoT so noone really paid attention to it lmao

I thought it was more of a 'wifi move' though -

If they're below the stage, fastfall a F-air through them, they escape with upwards DI/SDI, and you double jump backwards + footstool.

It only catches them if they try to double jump or delay their up-B.

 

[da K.I.D.]

i was thinking backwards a little bit like everyone here should know the "makeshift combo" where sonic pulls a SDR to SDJ to f air but the opponent DIs down ward out of it, and than since we never expect that, we just throw out a back air on the way down and more often that not, it hits.

but instead of back airing at the end, its a footstool, and its off stage

 

[Tenki]

That's kind of meh, because if you're hitting with an SDJ>F-air they're usually in a position to be able to recover out of a footstool.

 

[InterimOfZeal]

let me get this right: if you fair, and they block, you can footstool> dair them.

if you fair and they get hit, you get footstool to jab lock?

Wtf? This is hot. Imma pick Sonic back up just to try this. :D

 

[TheREALShadowChaos]

Actually, I was referring to offstage.

like a way to kill people.

Aahm.... Sure.... Whatever....

i'm going to try that.

 

[~TBS~]

so, wait. if they block it and dodge, or keep there shield up, we either cant FS or jump off and cause hitstun. then what?

 

[memphischains]

Hella told me about this like 6 months ago. i wish he would post here more.....

 

[JayBee]

ooohhh i brought that up once in the how2killwsonic thread but it was a WoT so noone really paid attention to it lmao

I thought it was more of a 'wifi move' though -

If they're below the stage, fastfall a F-air through them, they escape with upwards DI/SDI, and you double jump backwards + footstool.

It only catches them if they try to double jump or delay their up-B.

now i agree with this. i have done this multiple times, but mostly the FS was after the soft stage spike that happened due to the fair. then I FS, then Spring jump, and that was usually enough to KO them if I grabbed the edge.

boxob, u confused me a bit because i thought u was talking about on the ground. and why has no one shown or a vid yet? i am not amused...

 

[MalcolmM]

god i love boxob threads

 

[Camalange]

I still can't do this. I must not be positioning the Fair right...must I do it in the air as my opponent is falling or what?

Does it only work if the opponent trys to DI out?

Help meh plz.

 

[ithrowthings]

Since I *still* don't have a wii I can't test this but I'm pretty sure I know how to do it.

Y'know when you knock the enemy off and they're recovering from below and you run off into a fair and intentionally miss the last hit then short hop into a bair for the stage spike? I think that right after you miss that last hit you footstool instead. Of course in this situation of being off the level it's probably different timing but still possible.

I'm pretty sure what they're talking about is a running short hopped fair, keep your forward momentum going so you intentionally miss the last hit. (I think I just know how to do it because I messed it up so much that it became normal)

I'mma have to try this against Yoshi's recovery.