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Eye/head movement tracking. New feature in Brawl?

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Now, I'm not saying it changes anything technically, but I've started noticing that when characters are facing each other, their head and/or eyes are towards the other one.
I was noticing this with the new stage pictures and started looking at other pictures. Then there was this, to help support my theory.

Samus looks at Kirby


Pikachu looks left


then Pikachu looks up



Pits looking at each other


Metaknight look up


Mario looks back



To support it's not him turning around, Mario looks back while running. Note this is before the picture:

Basically, it is the same as a standard Smash brawl, so if you take damage and get knocked off the screen, you lose a life.

However, this mode features a space jump that allows Player 2 to return to where Player 1 is even after getting left off the screen.

If Player 2 gets separated from Player 1 by the screen scroll, he or she will quickly space jump back to Player 1's side. But, if Player 2 gets knocked off the screen by an enemy, that counts as a lost life.
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Pit is behind Mario, offscreen. (note the tree and the rock with yellow flowers in the background)


ACK!


What is Dedede looking at? Something in front of him, but slightly above


Oh...I see


Samus looks upwards


Mario looks down. He nearly never looks down. Squirtle is the only character shorter than him. It's also worth noting that the Pokemon Trainer ALWAYS looks at his pokemon. Maybe that's where all this started from.




It's interesting, is all I'm saying. Don't think I'm looking for game changing mechanics. It's not completely unheard of. I know in Zelda: Phantom Hourglass, Link's head turns and he looks at different things (people, items, enemies, secrets, etc). It doesn't seem to be the case with taunts (not surprised though)
 
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I think a more obvious example is when Mario looks back at Wario in the Gooey Bomb update. Anyhow, it is a really nice detail in character expression in my opinion.
 
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This is a good observation. It has, of course, been mentioned before, but it's still nice to see it. I don't remember taking notice of the Pikachu one, that one is rather cool.
 
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I used to think it was real cool when DK's tie blew in the wind of corneria. this is even better. :3
 
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Hi guys, how's it going?
i'd say it's in. nintendo's been doing this with a ton of their games ever since wind waker. they even had it in new super mario bros. when you fought bosses. it seems like a guarantee to me.
 
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I agree, it is a very cool feature, but it also has been known for a long while.

If you guys have any more photo examples of this, though, feel free to post them!
 
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Though I think its in, I wouldn't be too quick to suggest that most of those pics confirm it. Metaknights could be explained away as his positioning when he does the tornado, and Pikachus as ducking, though I cant explain him looking up.

Still, a neat detail that will make the game seem a bit more realistic if its truly in.
 
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The only one that really looks like it is Pikachu looking at Lucas above him. All of the others like like coincidences, especially the Mario and Waluigi one, he's just turning around.

Besides, we've seen before that whoever takes the pictures likes to pose them, like with kirby and whoever else sleeping during Resetti's rant.
 
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I noticed that with the Gooey update, but nice observation.

But some of those picutre's don't support it. Pikachu's looking left because he's facing left. Also the Meta KNight and Pit images don't support it, but the Samus/Kirby, Pikachu looking up, and Mario/Wario ones do.
 
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Yeah, I noticed this ALL the way back during the Gooey-Bomb update. This is kind of cOLD, but I don't mind that you made a thread about it.

Well, my thoughts are that it is a concept borrowed from WW. That added so much heart and expression in the game ^_^! I just hope it doesn't interfere with the actuall gameplay (which I severly doubt it will). Man, it's a wonder how many things Sora has programmed (I never thought I would say that....)
 
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Thats pretty cool, although I will agree that some of those screens can be explained by the moves that are being done. (Meta Knight's Tornado)
I do think its in and I didn't know that before, so I'm happy.
 
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Yeah, I think it's incredibly cool, but are we sure it's in?

Did anyone who was at E4All say anything about noticing it? I don't remember reading about it in Gimpy's thread...
 
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Ianthraxx said:
Yeah, I think it's incredibly cool, but are we sure it's in?

Did anyone who was at E4All say anything about noticing it? I don't remember reading about it in Gimpy's thread...
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That's what I keep wondering. I asked in Gimpy's thread, but naturally, there was no reply. And nobody seems to have noticed anything in the videos... which are too fuzzy anyway to make out such details.
 
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InvincibleAgent said:
Nintendo World Movie on the Dojo > Meta Knight intro > His idle stance includes him looking around

I'm guessing these pics were taken at those times when characters happened to be in the looking at each other part of their stances.
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Sakurai is indeed notorious for making clever screenshots with the characters limitations in mind, as evidenced by the screens you get after you beat 1P modes on melee.
 
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What if there are more than 2 characters on the stage? A character can't look 2 ways at once.
 
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i wasnt very observant and didnt really notice it until i saw this thread i like it its a nice touch to add more detail and i also lol'd at the one person who didnt like it there is always one i agree:laugh:
 
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I'm not sure yet. I've gone through a lot of pictures. Some of them support. Some you can't see a direct line of site. It might just be the last person who hits you, the character looks at. I don't know yet. And I've already stated this has no effect on taunts (like Ike's taunts, he's predefined to look in a certain direction)
 
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Nice i didnt noticed that untill now thats a pretty cool detail hope theres lots more like that
 
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The Pokemon Trainer always looks at his pokemon. I'm assuming this is where the whole movement tracking came from. It needs to look like the Pokemon Trainer is issuing commands to his pokemon. He needs to look at his pokemon, at least. Sakurai probably extended this to all characters.
 
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I predicted this before the Dojo >_> It's a very basic feature of 3D games in general, not just fighting games, and it's been in a lot of Nintendo games lately.

It would be bizarre if they didn't have it, so I was pretty confident that they would which is why there's a scene about it in my fanfic
 
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