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Yeah can you drop off-ledge B-reverse thunder? I think this is so important because competent players tend to tech since drop off thunder launches them to the bottom of the stage.
You can, but I don't recommend it, as it could lead to a potential SD if you accidentally fast-fall while initiating the down B. Jumping above the ledge is also safer and easier to recover from if you miss the B-reverse.
I believe they jump. I always used to SD as well until I started jumping and instantly using Thunder. Quick Attack can get you back from fairly deep and Thunder gives you that additional boost in height when it hits you. At least, that's how I do it.
He/She is using quick attack cancels to approach quickly and then jumping and using Thunder. If you don't know how to quick attack cancel, check this out. And yes, it's super important to jump before using Thunder offstage. It gives you an extra second or two to position yourself for the Thunder. If you don't jump you might fall to your death. Don't do that to yourself, man.
I've tested this, you have to hit with the bottom of the ball, but it does hit below the ledge.
No, this doesn't work on all characters such as ganondorf, greninja, diddy kong, and palutena just to name a few. Also, it only does 12% and your spacing has to be really tight. Thunder does more damage, more knockback, and doesn't require sharp spacing making it more optimal.
What makes F-air look good at edge guarding? It has low knockback, bad range, and it's multi-hit properties gives more time for the opponent to DI. Nothing really good about F-air in the edge guarding department imo.
I've combo'd people into the blastzone with fair before.
Why are you asking me something that I was wondering about lol. I wasn't aware FAir was bad.
If you've combo'd people into the blast zone with f-air before you have amazing timing, but their DI is also pretty bad. Also, it terms of semi-spikes back air completely outclasses it.
Oh sorry, I should pay more attention next time.
Pikachu's edgeguarding is a bit overrated. In some situations, someone like DK is much better at edgeguarding than Pikachu. It's just so much easier with him, because you just have to jump out there and throw out that giant hitbox that bair has and it will kill too. Catching people in Pikachu's fair/bair spikes doesn't even guarantee kills if they have good recoveries.
Yeah and the positional play is so hard. Do you think with good reads Pikachu can always get the stock on his opponent? He does have the options but I feel like edge guarding and getting the stock off is really hard. The thing is pikachu needs god like edge guarding because killing in neutral is a task in of itself.
This isn't a big issue but if you click on the link for the vine video, it'll go to Keron Pika's Twitter account instead
What was that thunder?
Yeah, this one looks weird! It looks like Pikachu hits Bayo with a wall-jump Thunder2 (the bolt), which moves past Pikachu as he drifts to the right, but then Pika drifts back into the bolt and triggers the Thunder3 burst, as evidenced by the little flip he does. Whut!
