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Drawn To Life *Possible spoilers inside*

Ferro De Lupe

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*Quick Note*
If you're not willing to read through this whole thing (meaning first post), don't bother posting!


Megaman...
Rayman...
Belmont...
Pac-Man...
Bomberman...
Sora...

What is the one thing that all of these character have in common?



If you guessed "They're all very popular third-party suggestions for Brawl." you win a cookie.

But, has anyone ever thought of the possability that Sakurai, as crazy as he is, WOULDN'T pick ANY of them? What if he decided to look at that last slot in a different manner than "popular character" or "significant character" or even "worthy character"? What if he decided that he wanted a character so off the wall that everyone thought he was insane for considering it?



Well then, he'd probably stumble upon Hero, the main character of the recent DS game, Drawn-to-Life.


*POSSIBLE SPOILERS FOR DRAWN-TO-LIFE. THIS IS YOUR LAST WARNING!*

Drawn to Life requires the player to become a hero in order to free a cursed village from a Raposa , called Wilfre, gone bad. It utilizes pre-made levels that must be traversed using a player character and other elements (such as vehicles, weapons, platforms, etc.) which are drawn or colored by the player using the stylus.
*Source - Copy/Pasted from Wikipedia*



Now, hear me out before you flame me.
(Because I know I'm getting flamed for this one.)

As we all know, a Create-A-Character (CAC) mode would be very difficult to apply to Smash Brothers because of the balancing issues it has. How do you allow the fans to make their own characters without screwing with the character stats and, potentially, ruining the game?

The answer, of course, came to us in the form of the Miis. Many people say that the Mii is the best way to do this. Allow the fans to customize the exterior of the character while still maintaining a fair moveset for any design. And, to a point, I agree. The Mii would be a great way to have a 3-D character of your own creation enter the Brawl without ruining the balance of the game.

The main problem I find with the Mii, however, is that only the face, body color, and size are customizable. As much of an advancement as it would be for Brawl, it would still be rather limited (even though I probably wouldn't complain if it were added.)

Drawn-to-Life brings us another option; Hero.


One of the main draws (no pun intended) to Drawn-to-Life is that the main character, Hero, is completely designed by you. He, or she because there is no limitation, looks like whatever you want him/her to look like.



As shown by the above screenshot, aside from a few perameters to guide you (legs/arms need to be "X" length to work with the joints properly and the head placement), there is complete freedom in creating the character. You want a robot? A pirate? An alien? A stick figure? Whatever you want, it could be yours.

Hero would have a few default skins (like the ones in the pictures.) However, once the character is unlocked, an option appears in the "Options" menu that allows you to delete the defaults and create your own. These defaults could be saved onto your remote (like the Miis) and taken from place to place. That way, no matter where you are, you could always use your Hero costume. Because the character costumes are 2-D, they won't take up much space (probably less space than a Mii.)

Another possible idea (though a bit limiting because you would need a DS) is that those with a DS could do a wireless link-up with the Wii when Brawl is playing. The player could then create their character on the DS (thus allowing better control over the character design [Stylus > Motion sensor when it comes to designing things]) and then send it to the Wii or, more specifically, the copy of Brawl.


In addition to the customization, Brawl would do some good for the poor little game. As many of you could probably guess, Drawn-to-Life didn't sell with insane numbers (probably not even sane numbers.) I personally feel that the reasoning for this isn't the game itself (though that is also factor), but more along the lines of it wasn't advertised very well. It had a commercial, yes... But a commercial can only do so much, even for the most hyped games.

Another possiblity is the future of the franchise. A Brawl appearance would all-but-guarantee future versions of this game to come out. As the game expands (even to the Wii?), the game would start to draw (again, no pun intended) in more and more fans.

Also, just a little fun fact here, D-t-L has no "official" logo. As such, the DS icon COULD (meaning it's possible) be used to represent Hero. I'm not saying it would, just that it IS possible.



Possible Arguments:
"He/She's only on handhelds and doesn't count!" - Are you Sakurai? No? Then you don't know what counts and doesn't count. Sakurai never said that it had to be a home console. Handheld or not, Drawn-to-Life was still on a Nintendo console (DS), which means Hero meets both of the requirements Sakurai made (the other being that they originate as a game character.)

"But the Miis are better!" - Think of Hero as a trade-out for Miis. In exchange for not being 3-D/graphically superior, you have complete control over his/her appearance.

"He/She's third-party so he's not going to make it!" - True, being a third-party character behind such giants as Megaman, Bomberman, and Sora does put Hero at a very distinct disadvantage. There are no arguments with that. H***, Miis have a better shot because they're first party. But, with Sakurai, nothing is impossible.

"Create-A-Character would un-balance Brawl even more!" - How so? If the afore mentioned CAC were implimented, it would only be logical to assume that the PHYSICAL APPEARANCE of the character would be altered. Nothing would vary between an alien character, a stick character, and a robot character other than appearance. Exact same moveset/hitboxs/stats means each one fights the same. (This counter argument also works in favor of the Miis.)

"He/She's 2-D! That will never work!" - Ignorant n00b, meet Mr. Game and Watch. Mr. Game and Watch, meet ignorant n00b.

"Why is this a good idea?" - As I answered earlier, Hero would allow complete freedom for CAC possibilities. Thus, realistically, we could have fights that normally wouldn't be possible such as Stick Figure vs Gandalf vs George Bush vs Jack Sparrow.

"People would make inappropriate images for Hero!" - Unfortunately, I have no way of countering this argument. Hopefully, the n00bs would be kept to a minimum.

"He/She wouldn't have a good moveset." - Unfortunately, having not played the game myself, I have no knowledge of possible moves for Hero. However, the moveset argument is an invalid argument as ANYONE can be given one *points to Falcon, IC, G&W, Peach, etc.* Perhaps someone more familiar to the game could create one for me? Full credit will be yours.





**NOTE TO READERS: While I may be in favor of this character's inclusion, that does not make me a blind fanboy trying to force my opinion down your throat. I am willing to listen to your ideas, comments, arguments, etc. And all I ask in exchange is that you keep things civil. I am well aware of the likelihood that this character will not appear. I thought the idea would be nice for discussion purposes, since we are starting to run out of topics to discuss *curses the delay.* I am NOT claiming this character idea WILL be in Brawl.

Again, this topic is for DISCUSSION PURPOSES. NOT BLIND FLAME WARS!!!!

Also note, I am not against the Miis in any way, shape, or form. I invite the Miis to Brawl like I invite Midna to Brawl...**


**NOTE TO MODS: I searched for a topic related to this one and found none. If you feel this topic is a repeat, then feel free to delete it.**
 

ManBearPig_78

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It looks like a fun game but its extremely unlikely that it(or he or she or whatever) will be included in brawl.
 

Cinder

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As pointed out, I know it is an unlikely addition.
I know...I'm just sayin'...Hero>random chars that suck:p>Pac-Man>Waluigi>Kinnekuman...OMG, I found someone worse than Waluigi! Congratulations, Kinnekuman, you suck worse than Waluigi:laugh:...sorry...random tangent...but anyway, Hero is actually a good idea...and you did a good job of knocking down arguments...from what I saw/remember...
 

Kal aMari

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Megaman fanboys wet themselves?

Why? When they could DRAW Megaman! XD

Right, right, I'll go back to the corner...

You're absolutely right, this is VERY unlikely. Of course, one of my many arguments I use a lot is that, well, it's Sakurai, we have no idea what he's thinking. It's a VERY creative idea, though, I'll give you points for that.
 

Enlong

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I like, I LIKE! Man alive, this'd be a pretty cool thing, easy to implement (just steal the stuff that Drawn to Life uses) and would be very very cool. Not to mention that a person could draw whatever character they want (you really wanted to look like Samurai Goroh? Now's your chance! Phoenix Wright? Sure!) without being overly complicated in terms of move-set varitation. While I myself hope that that last slot goes to Geno, this is a cool idea (and a nice WTF character to go with Pictochat.)
 

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Didn't this game just come out? They probably had the entire character list decided before this game was even known about.
 

TomSquirrel-Lord

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I was hoping somone would suggest the hero character. it would be so sweet :D i love that game. finished it to fast though....but being able to draw a character would make this game the best. because then if you had decent artistic skills you could create the character you wanted in there. Plus the drawings are done on a pixelated pallet board. so all you fan boys of old characters can draw your supported retro character.
 

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R.M.B. were else?
1.too recent
2.not as symbolic as the Mii's
3.has a chance people can make some....inapropriate looking characters for laughs.
4.interestion but would be a little hard to make it note have a bunch of glitches along with it wothout a long work time on this one character.
5.drawing using the Wii mote isnt the same as the stylus.
 

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Megaman fanboys wet themselves?

Why? When they could DRAW Megaman! XD

Right, right, I'll go back to the corner...

You're absolutely right, this is VERY unlikely. Of course, one of my many arguments I use a lot is that, well, it's Sakurai, we have no idea what he's thinking. It's a VERY creative idea, though, I'll give you points for that.
i recently downloaded, "bought", this game and i actually drew mega man as my hero! and the best part was that have to draw a snow gun i left it blank and the snowballs fired out of his mega buster XD!!

but the game suck really badly so i stopped playing it...
 

Ferro De Lupe

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Oh goodie. Finally some debating has started... Just what I was wanting.

Didn't this game just come out? They probably had the entire character list decided before this game was even known about.
Known to the public or known to Nintendo?

but the game suck really badly so i stopped playing it...
Game quality =/= Disqualified character *Points to Ice Climbers*

1.too recent
Roy says "Hi!"

2.not as symbolic as the Mii's
True... As pointed out earlier.

3.has a chance people can make some....inapropriate looking characters for laughs.
Also true. Nothing to really say to counter this other than restrictive clothing... But that would defeat the purpose of a custom character.


4.interestion (Interesting?) but would be a little hard to make it not have a bunch of glitches along with it wothout a long work time on this one character.
Okay... Something about it having a bunch of glitches... Why would it have glitches?

Also, the Pokemon Trainer took +x3 as long to make as a regular character because he has three movesets and four groups of animations.

5.drawing using the Wii mote isnt the same as the stylus.
Also agreed with/pointed out in original post.


Please, use some grammar. It makes it SO MUCH EASIER to understand your posts. Microsoft Word has a spell check too...
 

BubbleShield

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I'm not gonna lie, I would draw a fighting phallus. That would be awesome. Sounds like a nice idea, but what about online mode? Since names or rankings are excluded from public online games, why would they allow user-created content like custom characters? I'm sure nintendo wouldn't appreciate my fighting phallus man. XD
 

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I actually thought about this, and disregarded it when I realized that parts could be left blank for invisible hitboxes, or just having nude characters or disembodied *****es for characters :(
 

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An insane character suggestion? DO WANT!

In any case, it's probably not gonna happen. But it'd be cool.
 

GaryCXJk

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Customization on that level is just a no-go. Either they would go with low-res, which would make the character seem horrid, or they'd go with high-res, which would require more memory, not to mention drawing skills. Either way, it's just too much hassel(hoff) to actually implement a design sharing ability for on-line.
 

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Roy says "Hi!"
Roy was from an established series though. This game is a brand-new IP. By including a Drawn to Life character, Brawl would effectively be advertising for a brand new third-party game that doesn't have any significant place withing video game history (it doesn't have any history at all), received mediocre reviews, features a game mechanic (draw your character) that's been done before (can't remember the game's name), and really has no significance to Nintendo. The game simply has no significance.
 

Sabrewulf238

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I really like this idea and I think it's something Sakurai should have at least considered at some point. Wheater it will make it in....not so sure...but anything is possible....in fact we could wake up one morning go onto dojo and see "Warning challenger approching.......Stick" and while extremly unlikly it wouldn't suprize me since sakurai is a bit....nutty....
 

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This is stupid. The idea of either Mii or Hero getting in is ridiculous.

Everyone online who plays as a Mii or a Hero will just change the looks to whatever ridiculous fanboy affection they happen to have at the time. There will be Soras, Clouds, and Sepheroths everywhere...
 

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Everyone online who plays as a Mii or a Hero will just change the looks to whatever ridiculous fanboy affection they happen to have at the time. There will be Soras, Clouds, and Sepheroths everywhere...
So...if people want to make themselves look like a character they wanted who didn't get in, then let them...is that so wrong? It's a little something called freedom of speech...
 

Ferro De Lupe

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This is stupid. The idea of either Mii or Hero getting in is ridiculous.
What's so outlandish about a Mii as a playable character?

Everyone online who plays as a Mii or a Hero will just change the looks to whatever ridiculous fanboy affection they happen to have at the time. There will be Soras, Clouds, and Sepheroths everywhere...
Again, one of the draws of the character would be that you can play as anyone or anything. So what if you fight five hundred Sora-based characters?
 

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leave the CAC modes to Soul Calibur SMASH BROS DOES NOT NEED A CAC MODE IT'S NOT MEANT FOR THAT! THAT'S WHY THERE ARE SO MANY OTHER GAME CHARACTERS IN INSTEAD OF ONE COMPANY PUTTING 7 or 8 CHARACTERS INTO ONE GAME!

SMASH BROS IS A COMPANY COLLABORATION NOT A SINGLE COMPANY FIGHTING GAME LIKE SOUL CALIBUR OR ONIMUSHA
 

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Well, for the artistically impaired, there ARE "base" characters for you. they'd hopefully put them in for people who don't want to or can't draw. But if u can't draw, then why play the character? besides, it would be awesome if you could wireless-ly link your DS to the Wii and upload your character from "drawn to life" onto your game. therefore solving our wii remote/drawing problem. these are just suggestions that might help.
 

Sabrewulf238

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I hate it when people say things like "It's not going to happen".

How do they know it's not going to happen?

I think it could (Notice how I said could and not will) happen as this Hero character has alot more uniqueness then alot of 3rd party characters.
 
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