MrGameguycolor
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I haven't been able to download the newest patch, so I'm guessing Doc has receive any changes?
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Social Dr. Mario Social Thread - Witches? Dragons?...I've seen worse walk into my office.
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Eight_SixtyFour
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2ManyCooks is probably the best Doc player that we know of. I'm sure he wouldn't mind. Search for TEG_2ManyCooks on Twitter.
Coolwhip
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GerudoKong
Smash Apprentice
Have you guys ever confirmed an offstage tornado kill after a Uair like in this video? https://youtu.be/6uVw_OwZUSE?t=2m44s
I've tried going for it but people always seem to have time to air dodge. I've done upB before, but I don't like going for it since if I fail the Breverse thats a lost stock. It's incredibly stylish and it seems like the high base knockback on tornado allows for early kills.
I've tried going for it but people always seem to have time to air dodge. I've done upB before, but I don't like going for it since if I fail the Breverse thats a lost stock. It's incredibly stylish and it seems like the high base knockback on tornado allows for early kills.
Eight_SixtyFour
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You can just down b instead. If you want to try up air to down b, bait the airdodge.
Up-B is easy to b reverse on hit since the window to reverse it is large.
Also, up throw to fair might be a thing. Don't think it will kill though.
https://twitter.com/Tsumeato0213/status/713521604307779585?s=09
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GerudoKong
Smash Apprentice
Wow, if I don't remind myself that he's a top tier/glass cannon, I sometimes feel bad for Fox seeing how so many ridiculous strings can work on him because of his fall speed(despite also being very light).
MistressRemilia
Smash Journeyman
TO BE DEVELOPPED
I noticed while trying to find new mixups as Doc & expanding our footstool combos that the platform of Smashville will cancel the height we're supposed to gain after doing DownThrow -> Footstool. This may open possibilities, and most importantly, either extend our range for the dthrow to footstool combo or the number of characters affected by it.
I noticed while trying to find new mixups as Doc & expanding our footstool combos that the platform of Smashville will cancel the height we're supposed to gain after doing DownThrow -> Footstool. This may open possibilities, and most importantly, either extend our range for the dthrow to footstool combo or the number of characters affected by it.
Doctor_Link
Smash Journeyman
I just came to the sudden realization that up-throw is the superior throw for about 40%.
Hooray me.
I don't want to sound like a scrub but what do you guys think of Bidou?
Hooray me.
I don't want to sound like a scrub but what do you guys think of Bidou?
Eight_SixtyFour
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I have no idea how good it is for Doc, but I kinda want to get a Wii U just so that I can see how much easier it is to actually do all of that stuff :S.
Kudemo
Smash Apprentice
Hey guys, i need advices to choose a second character who can deal with bad mu of doc. What is for you the best choice ? I don't want to play mario because i already choose to play doc instead of him.
P.S. F I R E E M B L E M B O Y Z
P.S. F I R E E M B L E M B O Y Z
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Eight_SixtyFour
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Why not
? Fast + good range + relatively straightforward. Overall, a really good pick. Other good picks imo are , , and.EDIT: Love your videos.
Boyz!
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MistressRemilia
Smash Journeyman
Meta Knight is a pretty good choice in my opinion. Despite nerfs, his rosa matchup remains very doable, so are Sonic, Ryu, and some other troublesome doc matchups for the doctor. Wario can also be considered, but leaves an overall weakness to swordfighters, especially Cloud.
atticusfinch7
Smash Apprentice
God I love that short screen freeze when you land the sweetspotted fsmash on somebody
GerudoKong
Smash Apprentice
At times I wonder if Doc is the most forgotten about character in this game...
GerudoKong
Smash Apprentice
Apparently pills do a pretty good job of jab resetting, especially after a short hop Uair
MistressRemilia
Smash Journeyman
Yeah they're decent at locking after a bair at mid% too.
Or any aerial that could lead into a tech chase.
Eight_SixtyFour
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Down Throw weak Bair -> strong Bair seems to be a thing on fastfallers. Can kill on the sides of the stage. Thinking that down throw bair can be used on fastfallers at high percents instead of down throw up air. I say this because I think the bair will hit if they don't DI or DI forward. Still need to check it out.
Eight_SixtyFour
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Concept: A lot of characters have goofy looking combos off of falling up air (think Falco, Falcon, ZSS, etc.) and this is due to both the hitstun produced by the move and the generous autocancel window. Mario's up air ladder on battlefield works because he lands on platforms midway through the combo. I wanted to check if I could do something similar with Doc. If you land on the platform and cancel the up air, you can connect a few attacks consistently on certain characters (still a WIP). Examples include jab, down smash, up-b, up tilt (if the spacing is right it will combo and lead into an up air), forward tilt and down tilt. Doesn't matter if it's a rising up air or a falling up air, but it has to autocancel. Keep in mind that like Mario's up air, this only starts to work at certain percents.
DJSKRELP
Smash Apprentice
Something I've experimented with lately is wall jump pivot pill as an edge guarding tool. It is pretty interesting. It can have great situational use (such as a Ness recovering low but is within distance to recover and cape/ pills on stage won't reach).
MistressRemilia
Smash Journeyman
SH FF Uair as always been pretty good for mixing things up with 2 hits combos starting with it.
Lot of stuff can be done with it, especially if you used it enough to condition your opponent into defensive options, most notably airdodging.
Eight_SixtyFour
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Was not talking about sh ff specifically, but yeah that could work. I meant that you can use ff uairs to extend combos.
E.g on battlefield against zss around 45 pct, middle of the stage: down throw, up air, fastfall onto middle platform, jab combo. And so on.
DJSKRELP
Smash Apprentice
I'd say Sheik. Sheik has her flaws, but can land more safely and can cover his bad match ups.
Coolwhip
Smash Champion
What's up fellow Doctors!
itsameSMB
Smash Journeyman
Hey docs, I did a thing to get some of our names out there. Don't feel bad if your name isn't on there, I cut myself out to fit as many as I could.
https://www.reddit.com/r/smashbros/comments/4ekccl/a_tribute_to_all_those_marios_that_finished_med/
https://www.reddit.com/r/smashbros/comments/4ekccl/a_tribute_to_all_those_marios_that_finished_med/
MonkeyArms
Smash Ace
I'm going to try and main Doc over Luigi in smash 4 to improve my consistency, both in smash 4 and other games. When I play Luigi in multiple games, I sometimes try doing things I know doesn't work, so I'm going to use him mainly in PM and Melee, since the adjustments arent as important.
On a side note, Luigi cyclone requires way to much effort.
On a side note, Luigi cyclone requires way to much effort.
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Coolwhip
Smash Champion
Have any of you guys played Dr. Mario before? (I'm not talking about Sm4sh Doc)
MistressRemilia
Smash Journeyman
As in, the puzzle game, or Melee Doc?
Either way, that's a yes for both.
Either way, that's a yes for both.
MonkeyArms
Smash Ace
I've played miracle cure and experienced the most broken AI in existence.Have any of you guys played Dr. Mario before? (I'm not talking about Sm4sh Doc)
Coolwhip
Smash Champion
MistressRemilia
The puzzle game. (Original Nes)I like playing puzzle games. Playing puzzle games helps me think, it can benefit into playing smash thinking a step ahead of your opponent.
atticusfinch7
Smash Apprentice
You should try Professor Layton then. Really good series of puzzle games (with good story and animation too)
I like playing puzzle games. Playing puzzle games helps me think, it can benefit into playing smash thinking a step ahead of your opponent.
Coolwhip
Smash Champion
Never heard of this Professor Layton before. I'll check it out sometime.
I think Prof. Layton and Dr Mario could be good academic buddies.
Just to introduce myself, I'm a Meta Knight main from the UK. Have played Doc for a while casually cause he's fun as heck and have recently decided to take him more seriously as a competitive secondary for certain MUs, alongside DK. I met
itsameSMB
at Albion last weekend and played a few friendlies which were fun (hi, I was the MK guy with glasses), and successfully counterpicked Doc into a Fox to win a set which was pretty great.
Hopefully I'll get an invite to the Discord, which I imagine is where most of the discussion takes place, so I can meet others and learn more of the ways of the Doctor. Also if there are other UK- or EU-based Docs out there, let me know and I'll look out for you at future tourneys!
Just to introduce myself, I'm a Meta Knight main from the UK. Have played Doc for a while casually cause he's fun as heck and have recently decided to take him more seriously as a competitive secondary for certain MUs, alongside DK. I met
itsameSMB
at Albion last weekend and played a few friendlies which were fun (hi, I was the MK guy with glasses), and successfully counterpicked Doc into a Fox to win a set which was pretty great.Hopefully I'll get an invite to the Discord, which I imagine is where most of the discussion takes place, so I can meet others and learn more of the ways of the Doctor. Also if there are other UK- or EU-based Docs out there, let me know and I'll look out for you at future tourneys!
Eight_SixtyFour
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I believe there is a tournament coming up in Lyon, France. I think Kudemo (Swiss Doc player for those who are unaware) is going. I'll try to find the stream info.
MistressRemilia
Smash Journeyman
Nice to see more & more people coming into the Doc Boards, always nice to see more new faces.I think Prof. Layton and Dr Mario could be good academic buddies.
Just to introduce myself, I'm a Meta Knight main from the UK. Have played Doc for a while casually cause he's fun as heck and have recently decided to take him more seriously as a competitive secondary for certain MUs, alongside DK. I met
Hopefully I'll get an invite to the Discord, which I imagine is where most of the discussion takes place, so I can meet others and learn more of the ways of the Doctor. Also if there are other UK- or EU-based Docs out there, let me know and I'll look out for you at future tourneys!
Anyway, if you're wondering about anything about Doc's matchups, metagame, or just something, feel free to share them, as well sharing even the tiniest bit of knowledge or help you might have about the character, we'll gladly take part into the discussion, so that we can hopefully push our character more & more as the metagame goes on.
I'd also gladly meet you, but i can't really travel, i'm a bit busy with everything, i'll warn people if i go to a meaningful tournament, i've only been going to locals tournaments with often no PR'd playrs & just a lack of threats sadly.
Anyway, enjoy the Doc boards!
MonkeyArms
Smash Ace
Here's every character you can do a grounded footstool up b garanteed on excluding miis, Corrin, Cloud, and Bayo (haven't bought them yet, will someone test for me?). All tests are on 3D stages, so 2D stages such as Duck Hunt my have special expections.
Mario, Doc, Luigi, Yoshi, Rosalina if luma is hit (not reliable), Wario, G & W, Sheik, Duck Hunt if facing opposite directions, King DeDeDe, Charizard, Captain Falcon if facing opposite directions, Pac Man if facing opposite directions, Mega Man, Sonic, and Mewtwo if facing the same direction and reversed.
Its pretty pointless, but its nice to know.
Mario, Doc, Luigi, Yoshi, Rosalina if luma is hit (not reliable), Wario, G & W, Sheik, Duck Hunt if facing opposite directions, King DeDeDe, Charizard, Captain Falcon if facing opposite directions, Pac Man if facing opposite directions, Mega Man, Sonic, and Mewtwo if facing the same direction and reversed.
Its pretty pointless, but its nice to know.
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New patch coming out today.
It's a long shot but I'm still hoping out for a buff or two.
It's a long shot but I'm still hoping out for a buff or two.
MonkeyArms
Smash Ace
Its more than likely he'll be unchanged.
Coolwhip
Smash Champion
Yeah, I don't expect any changes to Dr. Mario with the upcoming patch update. I however would like to see at least a small speed buff though.
MonkeyArms
Smash Ace
My only problem is that most of his combos are just strings. Its pretty annoying that up air doesn't really do much.Yeah, I don't expect any changes to Dr. Mario with the upcoming patch update. I however would like to see at least a small speed buff though.