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I think Solid Mid tier is fair. I think that there won't be undisputed worst characters in this game and that the worst characters in the game will still be pretty ok. Now as far a Doc goes, slow heavy hitters are getting a buff because of the games overall speed. Doc no doubt benefits from this and if he gets anymore updated moves it can only mean better for him. I play Doc a bit and I'm excited for him. This looks like it might be his best iteration.
Care to explain this statement then? Granted, Bowser hardly moves slow these days, but the jumpsquat was still severely holding him back.
Because grabs won't be as good in Ultimate and Smash 4 Bowser is essentially ALL grabs.
You don't use his utilt much, do you? Not to mention short hop fairs (and bairs against tall characters), and running jabs... really you can do a lot with Bowser's runspeed now that anything can be done out of it, along with his aerials being much less laggy on landing. It almost makes his slow walk a non-factor. And if we're going to use Smash 4 examples to picture how they'll do in Ultimate, I'd say it's DOC who doesn't benefit nearly as much as you'd think, because his movement is still not good at all and he's more likely to approach with aerials that didn't have much lag to begin with. Doc is weird because for a supposed heavy hitter, his frame data is top notch; after all, it's Mario's frame data. But it's really his movement alone that severely holds him back, and that needs to be directly addressed for him to get any better. Running combo-starting tilts are nice, but it doesn't mean much if he still can't get in range to use them.
So the pills are bigger and he has a new utilt? Or was Mario's similarly changed?
