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Donkey kong Junior, will he make a comeback?

KoriSamui

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Donkey Kong Jr. and Donkey Kong were both excellent games. They were classics. However, I don't think he'd make a very good addition to the Super Smash Bros game. I'd much rather see Diddy Kong in the game for two reasons:

Donkey Kong Jr. would most likely be a clone of Donkey Kong because of his character model. Donkey Kong and Donkey Kong Jr. look strikingly similar. No doubt Donkey Kong Jr. would fit amongst the clones as a smaller, faster, weaker version of DK. I just don't see Nintendo giving him his own moveset.

Diddy Kong has many differences from Donkey Kong. He has those peanut shooters, his simian spring, his electric guitar, etc.

The one thing that annoyed me about Super Smash Bros Melee was that they had those ridiculus clones. It seemed to me like Nintendo's final struggle to pop out characters because they were on deadline. I think this time they should take it slowly and work hard to produce unique characters.
 

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hemightbegiant said:
The continuity theory has changed.

DK JR and DK are different characters again.
Yeah and for what reasons they rewrote that? DK Jr was never used again when Rare left.
 

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KoriSamui said:
Donkey Kong Jr. and Donkey Kong were both excellent games. They were classics. However, I don't think he'd make a very good addition to the Super Smash Bros game. I'd much rather see Diddy Kong in the game for two reasons:

Donkey Kong Jr. would most likely be a clone of Donkey Kong because of his character model. Donkey Kong and Donkey Kong Jr. look strikingly similar. No doubt Donkey Kong Jr. would fit amongst the clones as a smaller, faster, weaker version of DK. I just don't see Nintendo giving him his own moveset.

Diddy Kong has many differences from Donkey Kong. He has those peanut shooters, his simian spring, his electric guitar, etc.

The one thing that annoyed me about Super Smash Bros Melee was that they had those ridiculus clones. It seemed to me like Nintendo's final struggle to pop out characters because they were on deadline. I think this time they should take it slowly and work hard to produce unique characters.
Point taken, Kori samurai. Nintendo did take out good characters and replaced them with clones (The only ones I use are Gannandorf and roy), like Meta-Knight, Pit, and of course, Diddy Kong.

I'm using flash to make a movie in a fight with Diddy and DK JR to find out who makes it in Brawl. The winner may suprise you...
 

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Yeah and for what reasons they rewrote that? DK Jr was never used again when Rare left.
Rare never USED DK Jr.!!!!!!! DK Jr. only appears in Nintendo made DK games. DK IS A NINTENDO PROPERTY, Rare just was able to use it to make the DKC games. Anything they created for it became property of Nintendo automatically, and if Nintendo wants DK Jr. to make a comeback HE WILL.

It's not hard to understand. He was in frigging Mario Tennis 64, and they keep remaking his game all the time. NINTENDO that is, NOT RARE. Rare has nothing to do with DK anymore. Diddy Kong Racing is the only game they still have some say in, because it contains their own original characters.
 

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FlipTroopa said:
Rare never USED DK Jr.!!!!!!! DK Jr. only appears in Nintendo made DK games. DK IS A NINTENDO PROPERTY, Rare just was able to use it to make the DKC games. Anything they created for it became property of Nintendo automatically, and if Nintendo wants DK Jr. to make a comeback HE WILL.

It's not hard to understand. He was in frigging Mario Tennis 64, and they keep remaking his game all the time. NINTENDO that is, NOT RARE. Rare has nothing to do with DK anymore. Diddy Kong Racing is the only game they still have some say in, because it contains their own original characters.
Yeaaaah I never said Rare did something with DK Jr. And man Im gald they didnt! I only said that Nintendo themselfs never used DK Jr anymore after the N64 aka the time Rare left Nintendo...

Yeah he was in frigging Mario Tennis 64. Guess what? He's got replaced by noone other then Diddy in the GC version. Not only that, he also appeared in Mario Kart Double Dash, Mario Golf Toadstool Tour, Mario Superstar Baseball and he;s being planned for Mario Hoops 3-on-3 (which has Dixie, yeah DIXIE in there to before DK jr). If Rare wasnt with Nintendo anymore at that time, im sure Diddy would've been at DK Jr's place as DK's partner. Not to mention he's getting a remake of his own game (when did we saw a remake of DK jr eh?) which was the most original racing game on the N64, which didnt got populairty because of Mario and his gang (even DK wasn't in there only Diddy and all new characters).
 

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xianfeng said:
the original jumpman was boring and the original Donkey kong were boring but they evolved into something original
You remind me of that kid talking to Adam Sandler in the movie, Billy Madison:

Kid: "Mortal Kombat for the Sega Genesis is the best game ever."
Billy: "I disagree. Mortal Kombat is a very good game, but Donkey Kong is better."
Kid: "Donkey Kong sucks."
Billy: "You wanna know something? You suck!"


I don't think you suck, but I do think you are not frequently hitting the nail on the head.
 

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I was wondering when someone would bring up that ine from Billy Madison :) BEST ADAM SANDLERS MOVIE EVER!

However, Diddy Kong, the reason DK JR is his own character is that Nintendo made him that way, then Rare changed it. Not that DK Counrty is over, Nintendo made DK from Dinkey Kong the DK we all know and love, and DK JR is once again DK's son or something along those lines.
 

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What I never understood, how come when Rare used Donkey Kong and Star Fox, and created characters for them, those characters became Nintendo owned. But when Squaresoft used Mario, and created characters for them, those characters became Square owned?
 

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Shark X said:
What I never understood, how come when Rare used Donkey Kong and Star Fox, and created characters for them, those characters became Nintendo owned. But when Squaresoft used Mario, and created characters for them, those characters became Square owned?
Because that was the agreement in those situations.

And I think Square approached Nintendo about Mario RPG, while it was the other way around for the other games.
 

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**** Nintendo for not snatching Geno >.< At least they got Krystal and Dixie out of the deal.

EDIT: *Wonders why he even bothered capitalizeing the D in **** if the whole thing was going to be censored anyway*
 

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FlipTroopa said:
Because that was the agreement in those situations.

And I think Square approached Nintendo about Mario RPG, while it was the other way around for the other games.
Or just because Rare was second party to them while making DK and Star Fox Adventures. Square is somewhat a 3rd party company for all consoles I think.
 

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Shark X said:
EDIT: *Wonders why he even bothered capitalizeing the D in **** if the whole thing was going t o be censored anyway*

I like to leave the first letter there and censor out the rest of the word. Leaves more to the imagination :p
 

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I am referring to the title of the topic when I say: GOD I HOPE NOT!!!!

Or at least not until other Kongs make their apperance. Well, not before K. Rool either.
 

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Rebel said:
I am referring to the title of the topic when I say: GOD I HOPE NOT!!!!

Or at least not until other Kongs make their apperance. Well, not before K. Rool either.
Wow, you just read the title.

If your not going to give a topic full attention, just don't visit it. Or comment on it, either
 

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Square has never been second party. Ever.

>.< And why did I not see such an obvious answer?

But then again, Nintendo didn't own Banjo-Kazooie or Pefect Dark out of Rare being 2nd party. So, no, I had it right. I believe DKC was Nintendo approaching Rare, and then something like Banjo-Kazooie was Rare developed just under Nintendo's funding. So they were able to take it with them when they left. DKC still had a hand in it from Nintendo.
 

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Nintendo payed for those characters made by RARE and Diddy Kong was the very first character they brought :p then they brought everyone else like Dixie Kong, Krystal, Tricky, K.Rool etc.
 

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I dont think he will but anything is possible. If he does I wouldnt play as him anyway. Maybe as a boss or something.
 

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I dont think he will but anything is possible. If he does I wouldnt play as him anyway. Maybe as a boss or something.
How bout he's in a Super Smash Attack? DK Calls in DK JR and thy do some CRAZ-E crap, or Diddy and DK JR solve their differences and both open cans of wup-a** on unsespecting opponents.

EDIT: HOOORAY! I'M MY OWN 100th COMMENT!
 

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What Rare said about the Donkey Kong Country series is not canon. What Miyamoto said about the classic Donkey Kong series is canon. If you still firmly disagree, then why did they change Princess Peach into Princess Toadstool in America? Did it sound too wierd? When Miyamoto found that out, he was so upset, he could do better than Segata Sanshiro in this video, by breaking three concrete blocks with the back of his head instead. Donkey Kong JR. is still unforgotten by Nintendo.
 

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Ohh how long I wanted to make THIS statement...

DK Jr will not be in Brawl before Diddy because of many reason, but the main one being:

He's just DK when he was younger.

Okay and we all know that Sakurai is removing characters from Smash with the most likely being: Dr.Mario, Roy, Pichu and Young Link.

Why did I bolded Y.Link and Pichu? Well because they are basically Link and Pikachu when they where younger, which means they have the same moves as their older counterpart.

DK Jr would be just as Y.Link and Pichu a clone of a unique character which should stay unique because DK was one of the big 12.

Still Nintendo ****ed up too badly with DK already... We need Diddy and no DK jr. DK Jr would even **** the timeline up more.
 

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It will depend on Miyamoto, not fans of Nintendo/Super Smash Bros.
ARRRGHH! This topic is getting nowhere.

Diddy will be in before DK Jr, but I'm sure he will be in a trophy

NOW NOBODY POST IN HERE AGAIN UNLESS YOU ARE GOING TO TALK POSITIVE AND NOT STUPID FLAMES!
 

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What Rare said about the Donkey Kong Country series is not canon. What Miyamoto said about the classic Donkey Kong series is canon. If you still firmly disagree, then why did they change Princess Peach into Princess Toadstool in America? Did it sound too wierd? When Miyamoto found that out, he was so upset, he could do better than Segata Sanshiro in this video, by breaking three concrete blocks with the back of his head instead. Donkey Kong JR. is still unforgotten by Nintendo.
So even though rare made the games everything they said is BS? Nah DK jr is just Dk whne he was younger Rare has always said that and Nintendo even said it for a while DK jr = DK classic DK = Cranky Kong hence Cranky's remarks in DKC.
 

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DK junior was in Mario Kart for SNES. He could have a kart moveset :D. I think diddy is a better choice. Hes more popular and in more games. And isnt DK junior Dk's kid, thats what i always though anyway.
 

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DK junior was in Mario Kart for SNES. He could have a kart moveset :D. I think diddy is a better choice. Hes more popular and in more games. And isnt DK junior Dk's kid, thats what i always though anyway.
Sakurai isn't looking for the most popular characters, he's looking for the most unique ones.
 

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I trust Miyamoto, but I don't trust RareWare. Miyamoto created Donkey Kong JR., and he still doesn't forget about him.

This is similar to when Yugi Naka, the creator of Sonic the Hedgehog, said that Sonic's favorite food is McDonald's burgers, while most fans believe that Sonic's favorite food is chili dogs according to the Sonic cartoons and comics (except for Sonic X).

Here are all of the titles Donkey Kong JR. appeared in:

Donkey Kong JR. (Multisystem) (Arcade, NES/Famicom, Three G&Ws, Three Ataris, Intellevision, Colecovision, and e-Reader)
Donkey Kong II (Game & Watch)
Donkey Kong Classics (NES)
Donkey Kong '94 (Game Boy)
Donkey Kong JR. Math (NES/Famicom)
Super Mario Kart (SNES/Super Famicom)
Mario's Tennis (Virtual Boy)
Mario Tennis 64 (N64)
Game Boy Camera (GB)
Game & Watch Gallery 1 (GB)
Game & Watch Gallery 2 (GBC)
Game & Watch Gallery 3 (GBC)
Game & Watch Gallery 4 (GBA)
Super Smash Bros. Melee (as a trophy)(GCN)
WarioWare Twisted (GBA)
Tetris DS (NDS)
Saturday Supercade: Donkey Kong JR. (Television)

And here are all of the titles Diddy Kong appeared in:

Donkey Kong Country 1 (SNES/Super Famicom/GBC/GBA)
Donkey Kong Country 2 (SNES/Super Famicom/GBA)
Donkey Kong Country 3 (SNES/Super Famicom/GBA)
Donkey Kong Land 1 (GB)
Donkey Kong Land 2 (GB)
Donkey Kong 64 (N64)
Diddy Kong Racing (N64)
Mario Kart: Double Dash! (GCN)
Mario Superstar Baseball (GCN)
Mario Power Tennis (GCN)
Donkey Konga 1 (GCN)
Donkey Konga 2 (GCN)
Donkey Konga 3 (GCN)
Mario Golf: Toadstool Tour (GCN)
Mario Hoops 3-on-3 (NDS)
Donkey Kong Country Barrel Maze (Flash Game)
DK-King of Swing (GBA)
Mario Kart: Arcade GP (Arcade)
Mario Strikers (GCN)
Donkey Kong Country (Television)
Donkey Kong Country: The Legend of the Crystal Coconut (Movie)
And some upcoming titles: Diddy Kong Racing (NDS), DK-King of Swing (NDS), Mario Strikers 2 (Wii), and DK Bongo Blast (Wii).
 

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Sakurai isn't looking for the most popular characters, he's looking for the most unique ones.
DK Jr is to DK as Young Link is to Link.
Thus, DK Jr would end up being a clone. ;) And since there is nothing unique about being a clone... Diddy>DK Jr in every way.
 

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SO!? He even made Ganondorf a clone of C.Falcon.

The only consideration that Nintendo should make by adding DK Jr is that they have no time making Diddy an unique character.
 

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SO!? He even made Ganondorf a clone of C.Falcon.

The only consideration that Nintendo should make by adding DK Jr is that they have no time making Diddy an unique character.
Sakurai promises that he will not create more clones. DK JR. has been used more than Diddy Kong, because RareWare owns some of Diddy Kong's rights, while DK JR. is completely owned by Nintendo.

Sorry hemightbegiant, but perhaps this is my last post in this thread.
 

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Sakurai promises that he will not create more clones. DK JR. has been used more than Diddy Kong, because RareWare owns some of Diddy Kong's rights, while DK JR. is completely owned by Nintendo.

Sorry hemightbegiant, but perhaps this is my last post in this thread.
Oh yeah and why did Diddy replaced DK jr in any games since Nintendo fully owned him?
And Diddy's rights are 100% with Nintendo. Otherwise Im sure Diddy would make a cameo in Conker Life and Reloaded.

And Diddy did made more appearances then DK Jr. Oh and you could add Mario Golf: Toadstoul Tour to Diddy's apearances to. And since the DKC's where ported to the GBA you can count that as a game to since some people regonise him from 'that Donkey Kong GBA game'. And DKC 1 was ported to the Gameboy Color to. Also Diddy made a cameo in the Arcade Mario Kart game. HEY that makes alot of more appearences! Dont just copy from Wikipedia. ;)

And as upcomming tittles: He's in Mario Strikers 2 to... DK Jr will be a clone and he SHOULD be a clone because he's Donkey Kong himself.

Diddy has replaced DK Jr's role in every way. And thats only logical, since DK Jr grew up to DK himself.
 

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I trust Miyamoto, but I don't trust RareWare. Miyamoto created Donkey Kong JR., and he still doesn't forget about him.

This is similar to when Yugi Naka, the creator of Sonic the Hedgehog, said that Sonic's favorite food is McDonald's burgers, while most fans believe that Sonic's favorite food is chili dogs according to the Sonic cartoons and comics (except for Sonic X).
Rather than make fun of you for claiming Miyamoto hasn't forgotten DK Jr. despite not using him since Donkey Kong ’94 (aka NOT Mario Tennis or Game & Watch Gallery, which is ironic in itself, because Miyamoto was the PRODUCER of Donkey Kong Country and Donkey Kong Jungle Beat *GASPNOTRARE* yet didn't make much of an effort to put in his 'favourite' character), but instead I'll just dissect your even more flawed analogy to Yuji Naka. Because I can.


Oh, and just quickly, PEACH STILL HAS TOADSTOOL AS HER LAST NAME IN SUPER MARIO 64. Just thought I’d point that out. :)

Firstly, Yuji Naka is NOT THE CREATOR OF SONIC. He was a major programmer for the original game. He later became the head of Sonic Team. He had a significant role in the character's video game series, but he hardly deserves praise for the creation of somebody else's character *cough*Naoto Ohshima*cough*

Also Sonic Advance 3's instruction booklet openly states that Sonic likes chilli dogs. It's even dumber that people should have to prove that when it's blaringly obvious that he was just joking about their McDonalds promotion:
Sega.com: When Sonic and his friends sit down to eat after a long hard day of chasing Dr. Eggman, what do they like to eat?
Yuji Naka: They probably eat McDonald's® hamburgers, I suppose? And I think they will get a complete line-up of Happy Meal® premiums.
Yeah, I'm bloody sure that was the team;s vision of Sonic waaaay back in the 90's.


Next time you're going to try to be all high and mighty, at least bother to research the stuff your claiming to be the all knowing guru about. The sad thing is that I actually really like the arcade games, DK Jr. AND the DKC series, yet your posts still annoy the hell out of me out of how narrow minded they are.
 

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I trust Miyamoto, but I don't trust RareWare. Miyamoto created Donkey Kong JR., and he still doesn't forget about him.
I used to miyamoto but recently he has done nothing but dissapoint. Rare and Paon are the only ones that can make a DK game, Nintendo EAD sucks arse and should be bombed on a count of how crap they make games, I'm not getting Super Mario Galaxys in fear that the game will be **** because of how crap Jungle Beat was.

Everything Rare says about the DK franchise is canon because they pretty much made the franchise, they introduced a real story, introduced characters (except DK jr who is DK and DK sr. who is Cranky) and they got the series popular. Everything Miyamoto says is generally just a personal attack against rare because they make better Donkey Kong games than him and he knows it, and he is a spoiled brat who always gets his way, he was proberly like that as a child too. Do you know what's really funny the best DK games are the ones where he had little or no involvment in (The Donkey Kong Countrys, Lands, 64 and King of Swing)

Miyamoto's dissapointments to me:
Donkey Kong Jungle Beat
Super Mario Sunshine
Luigi's Mansion
Starfox Assault (was he on that team?)
Mario vs Donkey Kong (was he on that team?)
The Legend of Zelda: The Wind Waker
The Legend of Zelda: Four Sword Adventures
The Legend of Zelda: The Minish Cap
The Legend of Zelda: Four Swords

Ones that will proberly dissapoint me
Donkey Kong Wii (he's working on it so it will be crap)
Super Mario Galaxys
Mario vs Donkey Kong 2
The Legend of Zelda: Phantom Hourglass.

That old man needs to slow down or take longer to make one excellent game not all of his games have dissapointed recently I liked Pikmin 1&2.
 

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I used to miyamoto but recently he has done nothing but dissapoint. Rare and Paon are the only ones that can make a DK game, Nintendo EAD sucks arse and should be bombed on a count of how crap they make games, I'm not getting Super Mario Galaxys in fear that the game will be **** because of how crap Jungle Beat was.

Everything Rare says about the DK franchise is canon because they pretty much made the franchise, they introduced a real story, introduced characters (except DK jr who is DK and DK sr. who is Cranky) and they got the series popular. Everything Miyamoto says is generally just a personal attack against rare because they make better Donkey Kong games than him and he knows it, and he is a spoiled brat who always gets his way, he was proberly like that as a child too. Do you know what's really funny the best DK games are the ones where he had little or no involvment in (The Donkey Kong Countrys, Lands, 64 and King of Swing)

Miyamoto's dissapointments to me:
Donkey Kong Jungle Beat
Super Mario Sunshine
Luigi's Mansion
Starfox Assault (was he on that team?)
Mario vs Donkey Kong (was he on that team?)
The Legend of Zelda: The Wind Waker
The Legend of Zelda: Four Sword Adventures
The Legend of Zelda: The Minish Cap
The Legend of Zelda: Four Swords

Ones that will proberly dissapoint me
Donkey Kong Wii (he's working on it so it will be crap)
Super Mario Galaxys
Mario vs Donkey Kong 2
The Legend of Zelda: Phantom Hourglass.

That old man needs to slow down or take longer to make one excellent game not all of his games have dissapointed recently I liked Pikmin 1&2.



Listen, I'm sorry but you literally just BLASTED NINTENDO. Are you ********? The only games there that weren't any good were Four Swords and Assault. You are the only person in the world that is getting a Wii and not planning on getting Galaxy. Your opinion is biassed and totally worthless, not because it's an opinion, but because you just insulted Mario Sunshine and Windwaker. How dare you say DK Wii will suck because of Miyamoto. I'm sorry kid but (correct me if I'm wrong) you are 13 years old. You have absolutely NO right to mock Nintendo OR Miyamoto. Saying DK Wii will suck because of Miyamoto is like saying Beethoven's Moonlight Sonata is crap. HE WAS THE CREATOR! He is the reason you are on this board right now, so don't you EVER badmouth the father of modern gaming.
 
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