Does c-stick for tilt improve Fox's combo game?

[Ferntendo]

This had popped in my mind while I was watching some recorded tournament matches with fox. And as a fox main I would like to know if any of you believe that changing c-stick for tilt attacks work better for his combo game?

 

[DavemanCozy]

Lol, the title of this thread is different than the question of the poll.

No, it does not necessarily improve the combo game. But imo, being able to perfect pivot -> f-tilt u-tilt is really good when you're playing the neutral and need to sneak in a hit confirm.

 

[Ferntendo]

Lol, the title of this thread is different than the question of the poll.

No, it does not necessarily improve the combo game. But imo, being able to perfect pivot -> f-tilt is really good when you're playing the neutral and need to sneak in a hit confirm.

Essentially I just wanted to know if changing cstick to doing tilts helped anything. But thanks for responding.

 

[Foster J.]

Well you'll be able to double stick your SH Uair if it's set on attack making that easier to pull off.

 

[Ferntendo]

Well you'll be able to double stick your SH Uair if it's set on attack making that easier to pull off.

I'll test that out. thanks for commenting!

 

[Skarfelt]

I find it much easier to SHAC Uair with c-stick on attack. PP tilts are also really good, of course. Being able to move in the air without losing any mobility is also very good - I find with c-stick on Smash, my Bairs sometimes send me in the direction of my Bair for some reason. That said, I find it hard to get Down Smash into my combos or get quick Up Smashes on reaction with c-stick on attack. It does take a lot of getting used to so I'd only change it if you know you have no tournaments coming up or something.

 

[Turrin]

I'd imagine it would make it much harder to pull off a running up smash, which I find extremely important for nailing kills. It could be useful to help set up other kill options, though, like back/up air.

 

[Hattie]

I can never make my mind up on this. In friendlies, I tend to do better with C stick on tilts, because technically Fox's options are improved, especially with prefect pivots. Under tournament pressure though, those quick up smashes are pretty important :-).

 

[Ferntendo]

I can never make my mind up on this. In friendlies, I tend to do better with C stick on tilts, because technically Fox's options are improved, especially with prefect pivots. Under tournament pressure though, those quick up smashes are pretty important :-).

Yeah but relying smash attacks to force a kill is really not the most optimal strategy. I mean forward tilt does set up to upsmash pretty well to a certain extant but... it's so much easier to do running upsmash with c stick to smash. but it'd would be so much easier to land uptilts with c stick to tilt and ledgeguarding would probably easier with being able to down angle forward tilt with ease. decisions decisions decisions. ugh.

 

[DavemanCozy]

Some things I do with Attack stick so I can do my smash attacks:
"L" is my jump button, though the other shoulder button works too.
A+B Smash is on.

With a shoulder button as my jump, I can freely use it to do jump + instant full hop aerials
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It can be tricky to do smash attacks, so that's where A+B smash comes in. Unless you map your attacks to different buttons, the A and B buttons are fairly close together to be able to hit with your thumb at the same time. Then it's just a matter of doing jump cancelled u-smashes to get that KO. I play with tap jump off since my L button is my full hop already. Here's how I do my JC u-smashes:
+()(+)

It's a bit tricky to get used to, but I don't want to go back now that I'm used to it.

 

[Ferntendo]

Some things I do with Attack stick so I can do my smash attacks:
"L" is my jump button, though the other shoulder button works too.
A+B Smash is on.

With a shoulder button as my jump, I can freely use it to do jump + instant full hop aerials
+

It can be tricky to do smash attacks, so that's where A+B smash comes in. Unless you map your attacks to different buttons, the A and B buttons are fairly close together to be able to hit with your thumb at the same time. Then it's just a matter of doing jump cancelled u-smashes to get that KO. I play with tap jump off since my L button is my full hop already. Here's how I do my JC u-smashes:
+()(+)

It's a bit tricky to get used to, but I don't want to go back now that I'm used to it.

I'll definitely try practicing this after the next tournament I go to. This helps a lot actually.

 

[Emyks]

People should play however is most comfortable for them

 

[West End]

I think that Having to c stick set to attack would improve fox's combo game immensely. One thing he benefits off majorly is his quick and movable arials. With the c-stick set to attack, you can do sliding arilas. With your c stick set to smash, these will become if not impossible, then extremely hard to pull off. I find that after that, alot of things are just easier, such as pulling perfect pivot tilts. Sure, being avble to do perfect pivots smashes are nice, but are impractical for fox, as his smashes are somewhat laggy, and you can eat a pretty hard punish from most characters. One thing no one has mentioned, however, is setting your c stick to special and pulling of bidou. What do you guys think about that?

 

[wcantu5567]

I also agree, I have my c stick for tilts and it helps me convert my up tilt to mostly all my aerials.