Do you believe in God?

[GOTM]

Since I am not a "Smash Debater", I'm starting this thread here because I'd like a chance to respond to posts about this topic.

I've seen this same debate occur in the private section of these forums before, and I'm sure it's occurred outside those walls as well, but I don't see an active one right now and I'd like to start one

I'm not going to kick this off with a big opening statement or personal stance, I'm just going to say that I do not believe in God, and hope to be able to respond to a lot of posts here about what your stances are.

Let's make this interesting!

 

[Scar]

i don't because there's absolutely no reason to.

 

[The Real Gamer]

This won't end well.

 

[GOTM]

This won't end well.

I hope not.

 

[~ Gheb ~]

Define "god".

 

[GOTM]

Define "god".

Do you believe that this universe has an all powerful creator?

 

[~ Gheb ~]

All powerful? No.

 

[GOTM]

All powerful? No.

So I will assume (correct me if I'm wrong), that you do believe the universe was created at the hand of someone?

 

[Pluvia]

This won't end well.

Took the words right out of my mouth.

 

[GOTM]

Things that end well won't make the work day seem to go by any faster.

 

[Strong Badam]

N o

 

[GOTM]

N o

I gained and lost respect for you within 3 seconds. Gained: your response. Lost: your avatar.

 

[Strong Badam]

Keeeeeep hating

 

[Luigitoilet]

There may be a creator. I don't think so. I could be wrong. Probably not though.

I think if there is a creator it doesn't make a difference either way from where we're standing.

 

[~ Gheb ~]

So I will assume (correct me if I'm wrong), that you do believe the universe was created at the hand of someone?

I don't like the implication of the word "hand" in this context so again I will say no. Based on the knowledge we have, however, I think that the creation of "our universe" can not be coincidence. Just look at the degree of regularity in sciences like physics or chemistry and take into account that regularity and coincidence are contradictory and you will understand what I mean. I don't think there's a spiritual aspect within all this so I have no reason to believe in the kind of god the abrahamic religions suggests [or any other religion for that matter].

 

[thesage]

I came to the conclusion that Christianity was false due to the bible's description of men and women (i.e. that women are weak and helpless) and seeing how my mom broke all those rules raising me, taking care of her parents, and adjusting to a foreign land by herself.

One cannot 100% say that there is no god. There is no proof of his non-existance. However, there is no proof that there is not a purple teapot orbiting Mars at 100 m above the surface. Also if there is one it cannot have all three traits of omniscience, omnipotent, or benevolent. The main conflict being that if it is omniscient and omnipotent, it cannot be benevolent because there are starving children in this world (some of which are being held in captivity and sexually abused). And if it lacks any of the above three, to me it is not worth being worshiped.

Gheb: you have an interesting viewpoint, but I counter with the claim, the universe may seem fine tuned, but if you look closely it seems rather chaotic. Just look at how long it took for life to develop on earth and how many times mass extinction events occurred. What seems like regularity in Science are just mathematical approximations of what happens in certain types of systems. The majority of our universe isn't even suitable for life as we know it to exist.

 

[ShroudedOne]

How would you prove that God does not exist, thesage?

 

[Veetaak]

Nope. Never have.

 

[PersonallyIPreferDair]

No

and now...

 

[Holder of the Heel]

When there is the lack of proof of something, that is the same as having proof against it. The Burden of Proof doesn't fall onto a negative proposition I believe, it is up to someone putting forth a stance on a creator.

Oh, and I am 100% sure there is no being that exists, and hypothetically if it was, like hell it is the Christian God. (Knows that someone may get offended by that, my apologies). I'd sooner believe the world is one massive collective consciousness over that shenanigans, they have more compelling things to say and than someone believing any religion out there and raises tough questions about Earth. I'm 99% sure the universe isn't some sort of giant God consciousness. That sounds so much more interesting and isn't morally contradictory, so I give those believers a congratulatory one percent.

May sound harsh, I am really open to debate (I'd personally like to have an afterlife so being proved wrong would be nice), I grew up Christian simply because my family was without thinking about it, and then when High school came around I started to turn to philosophy and now I can't turn to any concept of God, especially what I once believed.

 

[Crimson King]

Don't make threads like this in the proom. Take it to the DH.