What are you guys's opinions on the Assist Trophies they removed:
- Barbara the Bat from Jam with the Band
- Dark Samus from Metroid
- Elec Man from Mega Man
- Excitebikes from Excite
- Helirin from Kururin
- Infantry and Tanks from Nintendo Wars
- Isabelle from Animal Crossing
- Jill from Drill Dozer
- Kat and Anna from WarioWare
- Lakitu and Spinies from Super Mario
- Little Mac from PUNCH-OUT!!
- Magnus from Kid Icarus
- Mr. Resetti from Animal Crossing
- Ray Mk III from Custom Robo
- Saki Amamiya from Sin and Punishment
- Tingle from The Legend of Zelda
Yes I know some of these are characters now. What did you think of them as Assist Trophies?
I find some of the removals really weird (AW, Saki, Ray, Kat / Ana, Barbara, Jill, Magnus) so I'd like to one day be a fly on the wall and get to know Sakurai's reasoning. They were honestly fine as ATs.
Of those, I'm particularily wondering why Saki was cut. Especially since apparently he could be defeated in 4. Why.
Resetti was an interesting AT. But he'd be way more interesting if he took an active effort to hit people who were fighting instead of listening to his
rambles Pulitzer-winning speeches.
Some ATs were just... strange in terms of execution (Helirin, Tingle). FTR, I'm not keen on the fact that Sakurai and co. replaced Tingle with Skull Kid and made Skull Kid basically "screw up the screen for everyone!" the minigame. Tingle at least could result in some interesting and chaotic moments like hammers everywhere IIRC. Still, I'd like to see either of Helirin / Tingle return but now with some stronger effects.
I can get Elec Man being effectively replaced by Wily Capsule 7, but still that a Robot Master or hell even Maverick could've been a fine AT. Eh, not a big deal in the long run when Wily and Zero are both in (yes, technically Zero is DWN-Infinity IIRC, but still).
I'm gonna detour into the upgrades here:
was a perfectly fine upgrade, shame she didn't get much at all. The only slightly impactful stuff is her roll and the fact that her Charged Shot low-profiles - the other changes are really niché. Whereas I really think she should've gotten more (alas, time constraints and the nature of Echo Fighters). TIL she's the fastest at
turning around after an initial dash (2 frames compared to everyone else's 3), and I have no idea what the **** that could be. Ergo Dark Samus OP pls nerf.
's been debated to hell and back ever since he became playable, but he should be playable. Sure, I'm one of those who have not been keen on how his playstyle's super-volatile, but I'm not going to lose much sleep over that. I do recomend
Thinkaman's defense of him
here and
here. Those are very in depth, but also very intelligent takes on him.
Ditto
- she should be playable, and I actually kinda like what they were going with her. Aka. a more trap-focused Villager with a few extra spices on top (it took some buffs and fixing, but her jab is nasty). And I do think she's a bit underrated as a result. The biggest issue holding her back IMHO is that she doesn't have alot that can deal with shields.
Come to think of it... given how many cut ATs were in the "small but numerous irritants" department (Excitebikes, Lakitu, AW) I wouldn't be surprised if Sakurai soured on that idea. He did remove Dedede's "Summon ALL my minions, I wanna clobbahg Kirbeh!" Final Smash after all (which is slightly better than his Masked Dedede FS and I'll gladly die on this hill).