Official DLC Speculation Discussion Volume II

[BlondeLombax]

Edit:I didn't mean to spam. Still trying to learn how this stuff works.

Happens to us all at some point, don’t panic.

 

[osby]

I've been thinking about Reimu for a while and watching Dark Phoenix in MvC3 gave me an idea. For those who don't know, one of the big buffs Dark Phoenix gets is that her normals fire off projectiles making her moves stronger and safer, what if Reimu used a similar idea so that whenever she used her normals, she'd shoot a small, weak and short to mid distance projectile. It'd have no hit stun and deal chip damage at most but Reimu'd be able to fill the screen with projectiles like this, if this is a passive ability she'd always have then her normals can be balanced around that by making them weak too and if it's an install or something, then that ability will have cooldown to balance it out. The issue people have with zoners is an inability to get in, so I'm curious of the inherent dynamic of "You can get in, but you'll take a chunk of damage" at play here

Not the same thing, but this is kinda what Bayo already can do with her Bullet Arts, right?

 

[Cutie Gwen]

Not the same thing, but this is kinda what Bayo already can do with her Bullet Arts, right?

I'm gonna be honest I completely forgot that was in the game, but yeah it's a good comparison, just give that to a zoner and rework it a tad

 

[Merengue]

How bout they give Reimu the rng move of having a 1/50 chance to dodge a fatal attack.

 

[Pillow]

just give that to a zoner

I can almost hear the screams of thousands of wi-fi players echoing in the distance.

 

[Cutie Gwen]

I can almost hear the screams of thousands of wi-fi players echoing in the distance.

Yeah but they wouldn't get knocked back, they'd take that damage by running into the projectiles blindly so they'd ironically complain less than otherwise

 

[Idon]

How bout they give Reimu the rng move of having a 1/50 chance to dodge a fatal attack.

That's antithetical to the core of the gameplay being about skill-based maneuvering.

 

[osby]

How bout they give Reimu the rng move of having a 1/50 chance to dodge a fatal attack.

I think it would be a little wonky if nothing because there's no sure way of saying what's a fatal attack in Smash.

 

[NonSpecificGuy]

So, what are we thinking? One reveal at E3, or both at E3?

Personally, based on past precedent I'm inclined to think that we'll get the double reveal that's oh so associated with E3. I'm not gonna lie it's crazy to think that we're possibly coming up on the end of Smash Ultimate so quickly when I feel like there's so many possibilities still being tossed around. Crash, Reimu, Chun-Li, Kiryu, Hayabusa, Doom Slayer, Master Chief, and so many more are possibilities that seem like they could happen in Ultimate and only 2 of them are going to make it... at most. Two of them, one of them, or none of them are all possibilities to be the very last stop on this wild ride and that's kinda lamenting to think about. What a weird feeling.

 

[Idon]

So, what are we thinking? One reveal at E3, or both at E3?

Personally, based on past precedent I'm inclined to think that we'll get the double reveal that's oh so associated with E3. I'm not gonna lie it's crazy to think that we're possibly coming up on the end of Smash Ultimate so quickly when I feel like there's so many possibilities still being tossed around. Crash, Reimu, Chun-Li, Kiryu, Hayabusa, Doom Slayer, Master Chief, and so many more are possibilities that seem like they could happen in Ultimate and only 2 of them are going to make it... at most. Two of them, one of them, or none of them are all possibilities to be the very last stop on this wild ride and that's kinda lamenting to think about. What a weird feeling.

No reveal at E3. Instead we're getting a Smash Direct next week so E3 can have more time to show off Ring Fit Adventure 2.

 

[Pillow]

So, what are we thinking? One reveal at E3, or both at E3?

Personally, based on past precedent I'm inclined to think that we'll get the double reveal that's oh so associated with E3. I'm not gonna lie it's crazy to think that we're possibly coming up on the end of Smash Ultimate so quickly when I feel like there's so many possibilities still being tossed around. Crash, Reimu, Chun-Li, Kiryu, Hayabusa, Doom Slayer, Master Chief, and so many more are possibilities that seem like they could happen in Ultimate and only 2 of them are going to make it... at most. Two of them, one of them, or none of them are all possibilities to be the very last stop on this wild ride and that's kinda lamenting to think about. What a weird feeling.

My brain says double reveal at E3, but my heart says surprise character drop this week with final reveal at E3.

 

[Cutie Gwen]

So, what are we thinking? One reveal at E3, or both at E3?

Personally, based on past precedent I'm inclined to think that we'll get the double reveal that's oh so associated with E3. I'm not gonna lie it's crazy to think that we're possibly coming up on the end of Smash Ultimate so quickly when I feel like there's so many possibilities still being tossed around. Crash, Reimu, Chun-Li, Kiryu, Hayabusa, Doom Slayer, Master Chief, and so many more are possibilities that seem like they could happen in Ultimate and only 2 of them are going to make it... at most. Two of them, one of them, or none of them are all possibilities to be the very last stop on this wild ride and that's kinda lamenting to think about. What a weird feeling.

My issue is that it can go both ways, E3 usually has 2 characters but last year had a gap between 2 characters with the implications we really were only getting Min Min for that period last year, there's also how Nintendo likes trickling down information when it comes to Smash, chosing to not have a roadplan or anything but rather "Surprise, here's a character! Come back in 2 weeks for Sakurai Presents!" Before radio silence for a while, I'm leaning 30% dual reveal 70% trickle down as it's more beneficial for Nintendo to spread the final two characters out for as much as possible

 

[Staarih]

So Nintendo's sale numbers are out... and it's all as impressive as ever. Nuff said.

https://www.nintendo.co.jp/ir/pdf/2021/210506e.pdf

https://www.nintendo.co.jp/ir/pdf/2021/210506_3e.pdf

Updated sales numbers for Switch titles: MK8D (35.39M), ACNH (32.63M), Sw/Sh (21.10M), Ring Fit (10.11M), 3D World (5.59M), and more

https://www.nintendo.co.jp/ir/pdf/2021/210506e.pdf https://www.nintendo.co.jp/ir/pdf/2021/210506_3e.pdf https://www.nintendo.co.jp/ir/en/finance/software/index.html updated sales numbers as of March 31, 2021 (+sales in the last quarter): Mario Kart 8 Deluxe - 35.39M (+1.98M) Animal Crossing...

www.resetera.com

Yay for Pikmin finally over 2m

 

[GoodGrief741]

So Nintendo's sale numbers are out... and it's all as impressive as ever. Nuff said.

https://www.nintendo.co.jp/ir/pdf/2021/210506e.pdf

https://www.nintendo.co.jp/ir/pdf/2021/210506_3e.pdf

Updated sales numbers for Switch titles: MK8D (35.39M), ACNH (32.63M), Sw/Sh (21.10M), Ring Fit (10.11M), 3D World (5.59M), and more

https://www.nintendo.co.jp/ir/pdf/2021/210506e.pdf https://www.nintendo.co.jp/ir/pdf/2021/210506_3e.pdf https://www.nintendo.co.jp/ir/en/finance/software/index.html updated sales numbers as of March 31, 2021 (+sales in the last quarter): Mario Kart 8 Deluxe - 35.39M (+1.98M) Animal Crossing...

www.resetera.com

Yay for Pikmin finally over 2m

At nearly 10 million sales it looks like Luigi's Mansion 3 is the best-selling Nintendo game ever by a Western dev.

So if you were wondering why Nintendo uncharacteristically bought Next Level Games, there's your answer.

 

[ahemtoday]

Most of the Yoshi series stages we've gotten have been pretty similar sorts of areas. You know what would be a great change of pace that's still an iconic location from the series?

Only problem is, I have no clue what you'd call it. This happens during the level "Raphael the Raven's Castle", but clearly you've left it behind at this point. There's a level in Yoshi's New Island with a bunch of moons based on this one called "Eggstraordinary Terrain", but... that level doesn't really have a background resembling this, it feels weird to name it after a YNI level of all things, and like I said, in that level there's a bunch of this stuff, not just the one. My best try is something like "Patchwork Moon", but it also feels odd to make up a name, even though it's happened before with Smashville and Kongo Falls.

I don't know, what do y'all think?

 

[Chaosmaster8753]

Seeing the way other FP2 characters have been revealed, I'm guessing that E3 will probably just have CP10 only while the mystery of CP11 gets dragged out like a carrot on a stick until the month it's ready, especially if FP2 really is the last FP.

 

[Cosmic77]

So Nintendo's sale numbers are out... and it's all as impressive as ever. Nuff said.

https://www.nintendo.co.jp/ir/pdf/2021/210506e.pdf

https://www.nintendo.co.jp/ir/pdf/2021/210506_3e.pdf

Updated sales numbers for Switch titles: MK8D (35.39M), ACNH (32.63M), Sw/Sh (21.10M), Ring Fit (10.11M), 3D World (5.59M), and more

https://www.nintendo.co.jp/ir/pdf/2021/210506e.pdf https://www.nintendo.co.jp/ir/pdf/2021/210506_3e.pdf https://www.nintendo.co.jp/ir/en/finance/software/index.html updated sales numbers as of March 31, 2021 (+sales in the last quarter): Mario Kart 8 Deluxe - 35.39M (+1.98M) Animal Crossing...

www.resetera.com

Yay for Pikmin finally over 2m

A couple things.

• Ring Fit has made it past 10 million. Seems like Nintendo may have found a successor to Wii Fit. Remains to be seen whether or not it'll become a franchise, but it's in a good position IMO.
• SwSh is inching closer and closer to beating GS. Still needs about 2.75 M, but it's beaten the past five Gens by a long shot.
• I'm surprised that these ports are doing so well. Pikmin is the real standout. Might convince Nintendo to be nicer to it going forward.
• MK8D is outpacing ACNH. Seems like the racing port will remain at the top.
• Super Mario Party got a huge spike. Not sure why considering how the online update came out afterwards

 

[N3ON]

Pretty crazy to think the Switch sold more than double in one year what the Wii U sold in its lifetime.

And as much as that is a testament to the Switch's success it might even be a bigger one to how badly Nintendo stumbled over themselves last time.

The question now is where does the Switch cap out? At this rate, I'm guessing third, behind the PS2 and the DS.

Also I would like to reaffirm Ring Fit's inevitability.

 

[Bobthealligator]

I think it would be a little wonky if nothing because there's no sure way of saying what's a fatal attack in Smash.

Screen zoom? I really really hope they wouldn't do this, if they did this then it's punishing the other player for doing well. A lot of strong kill moves have a lot of end lag so this could very easily hand Reimu the kill.

 

[ZelDan]

Screen zoom? I really really hope they wouldn't do this, if they did this then it's punishing the other player for doing well. A lot of strong kill moves have a lot of end lag so this could very easily hand Reimu the kill.

The Screen zoom effect doesn't always mean death, though. People already have a chance to keep living after it.

 

[SKX31]

Pic of the Day:

Apparently you can throw away the hammer after picking it up?

Z-Dropping, yes. With a Hammer it can only be done when one's tumbling (and the timing's kinda strict) - but Z-Dropping an item is overall useful since there are situations where one wants to drop the item below oneself - or in the Hammer's case when one wants to save oneself. This also works with character-produced items ( , ).

So Nintendo's sale numbers are out... and it's all as impressive as ever. Nuff said.

https://www.nintendo.co.jp/ir/pdf/2021/210506e.pdf

https://www.nintendo.co.jp/ir/pdf/2021/210506_3e.pdf

Updated sales numbers for Switch titles: MK8D (35.39M), ACNH (32.63M), Sw/Sh (21.10M), Ring Fit (10.11M), 3D World (5.59M), and more

https://www.nintendo.co.jp/ir/pdf/2021/210506e.pdf https://www.nintendo.co.jp/ir/pdf/2021/210506_3e.pdf https://www.nintendo.co.jp/ir/en/finance/software/index.html updated sales numbers as of March 31, 2021 (+sales in the last quarter): Mario Kart 8 Deluxe - 35.39M (+1.98M) Animal Crossing...

www.resetera.com

Yay for Pikmin finally over 2m

Also:

Here is a breakdown of Nintendo's revenue by Geography.

41.6% comes from The Americas, 25.1% from Europe, 22.6% from Japan and 10.8% from other regions. pic.twitter.com/WNzu5frFu0

— Daniel Ahmad (@ZhugeEX) May 6, 2021

Nintendo Switch sales by Region FY21 (April 2020-March 2021, as noted by consolidated financial statement):

• Japan: 6.60 million (Total: 20.04 million)
• Americas: 11.15 million (Total: 33.27 million)
• Europe: 7.15 million (Total: 21.58 million)
• Other regions: 3.93 million (Total: 9.71 million)

Also also:

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Our current group of Outside Directors consists of experts such as lawyers and accountants, and as members of the Audit and Supervisory Committee, they contribute to enriching the audit and supervisory system of our company through their broad insight into our corporate management. However, Mr. Meledandri is expected to be nominated as an Outside Director who will not serve as a member of the Audit and Supervisory Committee. • We believe that the addition of Mr. Meledandri will help to ensure our balance of diversity, including global perspective, knowledge, and experience, further enhancing the effectiveness of our Board of Directors

I think it would be a little wonky if nothing because there's no sure way of saying what's a fatal attack in Smash.

Screen zoom? I really really hope they wouldn't do this, if they did this then it's punishing the other player for doing well. A lot of strong kill moves have a lot of end lag so this could very easily hand Reimu the kill.

The Screen zoom effect doesn't always mean death, though. People already have a chance to keep living after it.

Think he meant the red flash (Deadly Blow) which signifies that an attack will - often - kill, + the Finish Zoom (the "PING" zoom at the end of a game). The Special Zoom is usually reserved for when a BIG attack like Warlock Punch hits (and each case has its context). The thing is though, neither Deadly Blow nor Finish Zoom takes DI into account, and that's a main reason why some of those instances are survivable normally. For example, being hit with an attack that would normally KO, but surviving because one DI's just enough to avoid the blastzone.

So yeah, if I may be honest I'd rather not that they implement that for Reimu since it is unreliable enough already.

 

[Gengar84]

I’m not sure if anyone else is a fan of any particular voice actors or actresses. Sometimes, just featuring a voice actor or actress I like can be enough for me to try out a game or show I otherwise may have missed out on. If you could add any character voiced by one of your favorites, who would you choose? I’ll start off with some of mine:

Crispin Freeman: Albel Nox (Star Ocean 3)
Steve Blum: Zegram Ghart (Rogue Galaxy)
Johnny Yong Bosch: Zero (Mega Man X)
Wendee Lee: Rozalin (Disgaea 2)
Luci Christian: Gaige (Borderlands 2)
Cherami Leigh: Makoto (Persona 5)

 

[RileyXY1]

Because of how characters have been revealed so far I expect E3 to only have a single reveal, with FP11 not being revealed until late summer or the fall.

 

[True Blue Warrior]

I understand where people are coming from when they say other series are better served getting some representation over SF getting its third character and I just wish they'd stand by that logic, or at least not counter it by simply spouting 'haters', when it comes to FE getting its seventh and eighth characters.

I don't want to turn this into a talk about FE, I just can't help but notice where people stand on the principle seems to vacillate. At least Chun-Li is a very very well known character.

The same kind of thing can be said for the idea of getting another Gen 1 Pokemon as any argument you can use to criticise it is equally valid for Fire Emblem getting its eight fighter and any argument that can be used to defend the latter idea can also equally be used to defend the former idea, yet only those that criticize the latter gets flamed. So yeah, there is a sense of double standard.

Anyways, Chun-Li would be an awesome addition.

Also I would like to reaffirm Ring Fit's inevitability.

No, N3ON, Ring Fit Girl is not inevitable. Just close to it.

 

[Hydreigonfan01]

smash bros ultimate leak pic.twitter.com/gHk5K2qkxj

— ✬ Lady Koopa ✬ ShangaiAlice (@kyurudoll) April 30, 2021

Jesus for Smash.

 

[Deleted member]

So, what are we thinking? One reveal at E3, or both at E3?

Personally, based on past precedent I'm inclined to think that we'll get the double reveal that's oh so associated with E3. I'm not gonna lie it's crazy to think that we're possibly coming up on the end of Smash Ultimate so quickly when I feel like there's so many possibilities still being tossed around. Crash, Reimu, Chun-Li, Kiryu, Hayabusa, Doom Slayer, Master Chief, and so many more are possibilities that seem like they could happen in Ultimate and only 2 of them are going to make it... at most. Two of them, one of them, or none of them are all possibilities to be the very last stop on this wild ride and that's kinda lamenting to think about. What a weird feeling.

I'm saying the reveal of the series the character is from will be before E3 and the actual reveal, drop, & Sakurai Presents will be the week of E3.

Furthermore, I'm placing a bet that the character will be from a game that Nintendo will be focusing on during E3 (meaning it'll be a promotional pick...or a 'shill pick' in some peoples' eyes).

 

[True Blue Warrior]

It’s funny to me that some people complain about the amount of anime characters in Smash but we haven’t even gotten an school girl character (unless you count that Inkling alt), one of the biggest anime cliches, yet. Ayumi confirmed.

 

[The Rhythm Theif]

It's also why Street Fighter is the only fighting IP they care about today; they actually abandoned all the other ones.

That and the fact that Darkstalkers being abandoned was actually Capcom's fault to begin with.

If you don't understand, allow me to explain. See, after Capcom Fighting Evolution, Capcom made a second rerelease of the Japan exclusive PS2 anthology "Vampire: Darkstalkers Collection" called "Darkstalkers: Resurrection". See, this would have sold very well and would've gotten Darkstalkers to come back...

...except there was one problem: Capcom only promoted it in Japan. And nowhere else. Which was probably a big mistake, since Darkstalkers was actually pretty big in the US back in the '90s. And since Darkstalkers isn't big in Japan, but popular in every other country the franchise had games sold in, the sales didn't do so well. And what was Capcom's response whenever we asked for a new Darkstalkers game after Darkstalkers: Resurrection was a flop (thanks to their terrible promotion skills when doing so)?

Capcom before the new bosses: "wElL, mAyBe If YoU hAd BoUgHt DaRkStAlKeRs: ReSuRrEcTiOn, We WoUlD gIvE yOu OnE, bUt YoU dIdN't BuY iT, sO cLeArLy YoU'rE nOt InTeReStEd In A nEw DaRkStAlKeRs GaMe."

 

[The Rhythm Theif]

(Ignore this, this was an accident.)

 

[True Blue Warrior]

Just a reminder that the 2015 Smash Direct that revealed Roy and Ryu was in June 14th, two days before Nintendo’s actual E3 2015 Direct. Just something to keep in mind.

Also, fun fact, did you know that Star Allies has sold over 800,000 copies in Japan? It sold around 500,000 copies in March 2018 and a further 360,000 by the next year.

 

[Perkilator]

Just a reminder that the 2015 Smash Direct that revealed Roy and Ryu was in June 14th, two days before Nintendo’s actual E3 2015 Direct. Just something to keep in mind.

Thing is, Smash (technically) wasn't even part of E3 that year. Fast forward to today and we have a DLC cycle that was supposed to last two E3's, meaning Smash is 95% likely to be at E3 this year.

 

[The Rhythm Theif]

You're using a song specifically made for a game by Capcom to argue against a character being so iconic that a mainstream artisr made a song about them without Capcom going up to her for it, one was made for marketing, the other was not.

You spelt "Artist" with an "r" at the end. Your argument is invalid.

Then why are you suddenly upset at the idea of Darkstalkers using it's mascot instead of any other character for 'hogging the spotlight'? This is hypocritical as hell

Do the words "copy-and-paste" mean anything to you? Because that's all Morrigan has been in every crossover she was in. COPY. AND. PASTE. At least with the Street Fighter characters, they changed between crossovers. Also, I'm not hypocritical, I'm being serious: if you ask everyone to think of ONE Darkstalkers character, I guarantee that most of them will say Morrigan.

Uh no, my logic doesn't mean that a character being the protag in 1 game means that the mascot who's been the protag in the majority of the series while being promoted more than any other character in the series would get less priority.

It's sounds like it to be honest.

This point makes zero sense, Morrigan's always gotten front billing whereas Lilith would be alongside Morrigan at best, a joke doesn't change that.

It wasn't a joke, it was a clip from Morrigan's ending in a game made by Capcom. I feel like you're missing the difference between a joke and something that was from an official game made by Capcom.

Again, you're not complaining about getting Sonic, Snake, Mega Man, etc, you're only doing this with Morrigan for the sake of being a contrarian.

Look, if Morrigan got into Smash, I would be OK with that, but that's not to say I wouldn't be disappointed either.

Considering the unfortunate implications used in arguments against Morrigan in Smash, I advise you think thoroughly instead of insisting your incorrect arguments are right, it's ok to admit you're wrong

Wow. Maybe if you could say that in a way that didn't sound RUDE AS HECK to me, I would do so.

 

[RileyXY1]

I only think that we're getting a dual reveal at E3 if they either drop both fighters in June or they announce DLC beyond FP2, both of which are unlikely.

 

[Bobthealligator]

It wasn't a joke, it was a clip from Morrigan's ending in a game made by Capcom. I feel like you're missing the difference between a joke and something that was from an official game made by Capcom.

It's still a joke.

 

[Deleted member]

Unless they're tired of dragging it out (which I don't see why they'd even view it that way) I don't see why they'd do a double reveal at all. Our only double came from Hero & Banjo and that was the middle of that pass with a whole other fighter's pass tucked in their back pocket that we didn't know about at the time.

As far as we're aware (and Sakurai keeps saying) this is the last pass; just two characters left. I suppose if they managed to catch up in development, or if the characters' gimmick wasn't too much of a pain in the butt to program (like Steve's) then they could release both relatively quickly, but a simultaneous reveal still seems like a stretch.

I feel like at best we'll get this June reveal & release and maybe an August trailer for the final one to release in September to cap off the summer.

It's hard for me to say that it's totally impossible, I just don't see a reason why they'd lump them together all of a sudden.

 

[Super Devon]

There we go!

Hope you’re getting hungry cause we’ve got more chefs in the kitchen for this year’s #E32021! Our newest additions: SQUARE ENIX, SEGA, BANDAI NAMCO, XSEED Games/Marvelous USA, Gearbox Entertainment, Freedom Games, Devious Eye Entertainment, Turtle Beach, Verizon & Binge dot com! pic.twitter.com/DeIB6zFjTX

— E3 (@E3) May 6, 2021

 

[Deleted member]

Square may have more info on FFXVI to share. Or possibly the FFVII remaster. They'll probably talk about the Ps5 version of it though + the Yuffie DLC since that's dropping in June.

 

[Garteam]

There we go!

Hope you’re getting hungry cause we’ve got more chefs in the kitchen for this year’s #E32021! Our newest additions: SQUARE ENIX, SEGA, BANDAI NAMCO, XSEED Games/Marvelous USA, Gearbox Entertainment, Freedom Games, Devious Eye Entertainment, Turtle Beach, Verizon & Binge dot com! pic.twitter.com/DeIB6zFjTX

— E3 (@E3) May 6, 2021

Hell yeah Randy Pitchford confirmed let's ****ing goooooo boys

 

[Rie Sonomura]

Hell yeah Randy Pitchford confirmed let's ****ing goooooo boys

Ew don’t even joke about that

 

[Garteam]

Ew don’t even joke about that

Panel with Pitchford, Sweeney, and Druckmann about how to get in useless Twitter fights that make you and your company look bad while also being the head of a major Western developer.