In response to people not knowing how projects work now.
Nothing the MBR does will ever automatically include all members of the MBR.
People who are long term members of the MBR are here because they applied to be part of a ready pool of individuals who are accepted as having the ability to contribute to projects.
MBR members are expected to suggest and take leadership on projects. Doing so gives you certain rights, such as the ability to bring non-MBR members in to specifically work on a project. This was done with the elo project, and is being done with the tier list project. Membership for those individuals is limited to amount of time they are needed to contribute to the project. They can also be considered for long term membership, but are still required to do all the application formalities.
Per Umbreon in the Tier List thread:
1. ...why? this suggests that some members aren't qualified, or that they shouldn't be in the MBR.
2. you're kind of saying that all MBR members are not equal, which sounds like a quality problem. why are we trying to sidestep a problem that we can just resolve prior?
Its silly for people to be able to come back and just vote on a tier list when they haven't contributed to anything ever. Decisions are made after reasonable amounts of discussion. Nothing should just be taken at face value.
Everyone back here is in the same pool of qualified members, but inclusion in projects is based on willingness to contribute and areas of expertise. Project leaders get the say in who gets to be part of their project. I wouldn't even have a problem with there being two competing MBR tier list projects. Part of this is that, when something is published as being MBR-backed, the project leader name is included, as well as the individuals who contributed. This moves away from "we all did this" and gives credit where it is due.
I do not believe that all MBR members are equal. Some people are more oriented towards strategy discussion. Others have legitimate extensive knowledge of characters. Others are just players who have a high level of play. We don't all share the exact same strengths in every aspect. I wouldn't want Kish contributing to the tier list discussion with his opinion on characters as he is several steps removed from current tournament play. This directs no offense to Kish, as his opinion on other matters is highly valued, and I would be more than willing to be proven wrong if he feels this is not an accurate statement.
To reiterate, part of the job of the project leader is to first determine who out of the MBR pool is most qualified to contribute to the project, and then if they have any additional external resources who would be beneficial, to also bring them in as temps.
Questions/comments/arguments?
Nothing the MBR does will ever automatically include all members of the MBR.
People who are long term members of the MBR are here because they applied to be part of a ready pool of individuals who are accepted as having the ability to contribute to projects.
MBR members are expected to suggest and take leadership on projects. Doing so gives you certain rights, such as the ability to bring non-MBR members in to specifically work on a project. This was done with the elo project, and is being done with the tier list project. Membership for those individuals is limited to amount of time they are needed to contribute to the project. They can also be considered for long term membership, but are still required to do all the application formalities.
Per Umbreon in the Tier List thread:
1. ...why? this suggests that some members aren't qualified, or that they shouldn't be in the MBR.
2. you're kind of saying that all MBR members are not equal, which sounds like a quality problem. why are we trying to sidestep a problem that we can just resolve prior?
Its silly for people to be able to come back and just vote on a tier list when they haven't contributed to anything ever. Decisions are made after reasonable amounts of discussion. Nothing should just be taken at face value.
Everyone back here is in the same pool of qualified members, but inclusion in projects is based on willingness to contribute and areas of expertise. Project leaders get the say in who gets to be part of their project. I wouldn't even have a problem with there being two competing MBR tier list projects. Part of this is that, when something is published as being MBR-backed, the project leader name is included, as well as the individuals who contributed. This moves away from "we all did this" and gives credit where it is due.
I do not believe that all MBR members are equal. Some people are more oriented towards strategy discussion. Others have legitimate extensive knowledge of characters. Others are just players who have a high level of play. We don't all share the exact same strengths in every aspect. I wouldn't want Kish contributing to the tier list discussion with his opinion on characters as he is several steps removed from current tournament play. This directs no offense to Kish, as his opinion on other matters is highly valued, and I would be more than willing to be proven wrong if he feels this is not an accurate statement.
To reiterate, part of the job of the project leader is to first determine who out of the MBR pool is most qualified to contribute to the project, and then if they have any additional external resources who would be beneficial, to also bring them in as temps.
Questions/comments/arguments?