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Let's prove them wrong, I'll get dazed and confused or maybe some other fox players in here to explain why not.
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Fair is to long lasting for a SH unless it connects soon after initiated which defeats the purpose having a long lasting aerial and a full hopped fair is earily avoided. Rising dair is only good when they predict the side b of diddy other wise it's easily avoided.Fox has way more than shine for edgeguarding. Fair normally sends upward, but I don't believe it does during barrells and it's a pretty long lasting aerial. Rising dair is good too. Dair has more priority than all of Diddy's aerials.
There's no reason Diddy won't get sent up if he's hit by an aerial that sends him up. Rocketbarrels have nothing to do with this.Fox has way more than shine for edgeguarding. Fair normally sends upward, but I don't believe it does during barrells and it's a pretty long lasting aerial. Rising dair is good too. Dair has more priority than all of Diddy's aerials.
Lol that pretty much snapped the discussion.The Fox boards thought they countered MK. They're crackheads don't take them too seriously.
major lulz right there ^^...id let a fox player call slippy for shiits and giggles :3 its oh so hilarious hahaYou're all obviously in denial!!! Fox can call Slippy in and... Wait. When you call Slippy you lose a stock? Wtf, handicap broken weak *** character.
he doesnt counter MK, but he isnt bad against MK. Its probably 60/40 advantage MK at WORST in that matchup. Or at least thats what ive been told by fox mains.The Fox boards thought they countered MK. They're crackheads don't take them too seriously.
whaaat. i think fox is good. Then again, i have really good fox mains to look at live (fenrir, garbanzo)This is, of course, in no way a defense for the legitimacy of Fox as a real character. He is still awful.
Good Foxes can cancel their phantasm, so good luck trying to hit them with that...
Diddy Kong is dependant on bananas, and well, shining kinda cancels them pretty well.
Fox has better aerials then Diddy Kong.
Diddy Kongs BIGGEST weakness is killing, and combined with Fox's shine stall, it's hard for Diddy to kill Fox.
Fox has Usmash, Dsmash, Fsmash (slow but strong), Uair, Fair, and Bair to kill with.
Fox also has laser spam to deal small damage.
Fox also has a better off stage game because he has better recoveries, more options, and better moves to gimp.
So um yeah, how does Diddy beat Fox...?
We're not indecisive.
We're just idiots.
Aside from a character or two (really low tier ones) I pretty much agree with this statement completely. Actually, this one of the reasons I believe there are so few Diddy's-his potential is that any match up in the game is basically winnable, yet the problem is almost every single match up will be a hard fought battle-you can't simply lean on your advantages in hopes that you won't have to think as much. Basically, Diddy takes awhile to learn to play as, and then once you learn to play as him every match up you have pretty much just comes down to who the better player is (thinking wise-though I must admit I have lost matches by exhausting my technical skill and getting lazy, and thus not playing at my peak, but everyone has these fluctuations, they are simply more severe for Diddy players because of the work required to play the character).If you ask me how I logistically feel about the majority of Diddy's match-ups, I would say that he doesn't really ****...um, anybody.
If you ask me how I logistically feel about the majority of Diddy's match-ups, I would say that he doesn't really ****...um, anybody.
Aside from a character or two (really low tier ones) I pretty much agree with this statement completely. Actually, this one of the reasons I believe there are so few Diddy's-his potential is that any match up in the game is basically winnable, yet the problem is almost every single match up will be a hard fought battle-you can't simply lean on your advantages in hopes that you won't have to think as much. Basically, Diddy takes awhile to learn to play as, and then once you learn to play as him every match up you have pretty much just comes down to who the better player is (thinking wise-though I must admit I have lost matches by exhausting my technical skill and getting lazy, and thus not playing at my peak, but everyone has these fluctuations, they are simply more severe for Diddy players because of the work required to play the character).
Nope, canceling your phantasm happens after the phantasm starts. The peanut hits the beginning of the phantasm and causes him to sink down. Just where he is in place, glowing blue is when he can get gimped by this. The phantasm doesn't even start. Diddy has better aerials, diddy KO's fox at 100 most of the time, diddy is no samus, he KO's decently. Fox's offstage game won't matter, and gimping diddy shouldn't happen when you recovery with smarts. Laser spam = nothing when he is forced to approach. Fox cannot kill diddy easily, he has to work far harder than diddy to get KO's. Shine stall does absolutely nothing but make diddy be more careful. The thing is, diddy forces fox to go into a dair hit-and-get-lucky mode, fox just has to hit the back of your shield and hope it works because thats really all fox can do offensively against diddy. Reflector is absolutely nothing vs diddy, it's horrible at reflectly the bananas and its so predictable when fox/wolf will use it. At least pit and falco's have range.Good Foxes can cancel their phantasm, so good luck trying to hit them with that...
Diddy Kong is dependant on bananas, and well, shining kinda cancels them pretty well.
Fox has better aerials then Diddy Kong.
Diddy Kongs BIGGEST weakness is killing, and combined with Fox's shine stall, it's hard for Diddy to kill Fox.
Fox has Usmash, Dsmash, Fsmash (slow but strong), Uair, Fair, and Bair to kill with.
Fox also has laser spam to deal small damage.
Fox also has a better off stage game because he has better recoveries, more options, and better moves to gimp.
So um yeah, how does Diddy beat Fox...?
We're not indecisive.
We're just idiots.
Definitively not true. Even diminished Usmashes can kill diddy near 110%. It's fast, Fox is fast, no matter how much you shield, no matter how much you spotdodge, it's going to hit you eventually. No, Diddy doesn't **** Fox, I was just being goofy earlier, but I think it's 60/40 in Fox's favorFox cannot kill diddy easily
Fox cannot kill diddy easily. He has to work hard to get that upsmash, if diddy has a banana he's going to have a difficult time getting past it for the up smash.Definitively not true. Even diminished Usmashes can kill diddy near 110%. It's fast, Fox is fast, no matter how much you shield, no matter how much you spotdodge, it's going to hit you eventually. No, Diddy doesn't **** Fox, I was just being goofy earlier, but I think it's 60/40 in Fox's favor
Believe it or not, it's not too hard to get a single hit on Diddy even with bananas out on the field, and that Usmash is easier to hit that some character's neutral AFox cannot kill diddy easily. He has to work hard to get that upsmash, if diddy has a banana he's going to have a difficult time getting past it for the up smash.
if you are at like...90-100% and you get hit by the dair while you're on the ground...you're deadBelieve it or not, it's not too hard to get a single hit on Diddy even with bananas out on the field, and that Usmash is easier to hit that some character's neutral A
Oh yes good point, and even easier thing to land than the usmash...the dair to usmash. Still in Diddy's favor IMO 60:40if you are at like...90-100% and you get hit by the dair while you're on the ground...you're dead
My low opinion of Fox as a character doesn't necessarily translate into meaning that I think there is no such thing as a good Fox player (I've played some impressive ones in tournament), but the character himself just doesn't dazzle me in the least.whaaat. i think fox is good. Then again, i have really good fox mains to look at live (fenrir, garbanzo)
...?Fox cannot kill diddy easily.
but I think it's 60/40 in Fox's favor
. Still in Diddy's favor IMO 60:40
lulzzzzzzz <---[10char]sooooo which one is it?