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Debate Thread: Burn the Witch?

Discussion in 'Competitive Discussion' started by Victory.IsMyDestinySSB4, Feb 21, 2018.


Should Bayonetta be banned?

  1. Yes

    1 vote(s)
  2. No

    4 vote(s)
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  1. Victory.IsMyDestinySSB4

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    Smash Journeyman

    Dec 20, 2016
    I just wanna make a thread where the concept lies in debating the banning of Bayonetta specifically. As ZeRo has said, this issue is tearing the community apart. And I think one of the main reasons for this is a lack of communication.
    Here are the basics for each side:
    For the ban:
    1. Bayonetta requires little skill to play
    Many people complain that Bayo is "braindead" once you learn the devastating combos. Several broken combos have been discovered completely obliterating certain matchups, such as Fox. (fair>fair>fair>fair) Witch time can be outright spammed in some lower-skill circuts, as it only has 5 vulnerable frames.
    2. Bayonettas are too common at tournaments.
    While this argument has a flaw in the sense that Bayo is not the most common character, many people are picking up Bayo thinking she is the only viable character, shown in her growth in use.
    3. Bayonetta is the next Meta Knight Brawl.
    This is due to the reasons above.

    Against the ban:
    1. Use tactics against it
    "Just SDI" has become a joke/meme in the Smash 4 community, but there are some merits to this argument. As players begin to improve on their SDI, Bayonetta's combos will become less efficient.
    2. The metagame will evolve, preventing many of these problems.
    Many people who emphasize this viewpoint believe that the hypothetical Bayonetta ban is more of a "wobbling" ban than a "MK Brawl" ban. These people feel that Bayonetta's strengths are overhyped.

    Bring back customs:
    But all joking aside, customs likely will fix the problems stated above, but it will bring a slew of new problems to the table. (Kong Cyclone, Thunder wave, Infinates, Fox zero to death with just one dair)
    #1 Victory.IsMyDestinySSB4, Feb 21, 2018
    Last edited: Feb 21, 2018
  2. TheWill44

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    Smash Apprentice

    Sep 2, 2016
    Drinking Baba Yaga’s potion
    Instead of posting a thread here, why not read @Das Koopa ’s article on the manner? He does into far more detail than this.
    Shizuka Kawai likes this.
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