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Critique My Wario thread

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silentboxer1989

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Welcome to the critique my wario thread where we try to help each other improve.


Rules of the Thread:
1. Present 1 or 2 videos of yourself, giving background as to when the videos were recorded, where, who is the opponent, etc (don't make this part a wall of text though lol). Tournament videos or MM videos are preferred but (serious) friendlies are acceptable. Also please post videos that are recent and of things that you want critiqued which means it doesn't always have to be that you won the match since even in winning there's something to be learned. No computer matches are permitted but if need be WiFi matches are allowed but only if the critiques are OK with it. Best video quality that you can offer should be presented since improvement of skill is what is truely important to us.

2. Videos that are presented will be added to the original post and cateriagized and any comments will be posted under thier name so that they don't have to search the whole thread in search of who related help to them.

3. Before posting a comment on how to help your fellow Wario in his endeavor to become better. YOU MUST WATCH BOTH VIDEOS HE/SHE POSTED. This way you can get a accurate view of their play-style and to help them see where the holes in their game plan are.

6. It is preferred that videos be against S tier, A tier, or B tier characters because those are the matchups most people know well so we can give you better advice. Though if that's not possible, then since you have no alternative any character will do but you most likely won't get as good advice.
7. You must read your critiques.
8. You must ask for advice or feedback on a a specific aspect of your Wario in your post. For instance, something like "how can i work on my ground game" or "how do i approach this person" or "what am i doing wrong". Don't expect to just dump a bunch of random videos and expect people to tell you how to be good.
9. Please after you post your videos please specify who you would like to judge it in the most generic opinion you can say everyone. You can suggest a certain Judge to do it but wait time might be longer.

Judges:
Masky
DMG

Video list:
silentboxer:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n4WNAmE9DkU (Me. VS random online snake)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nbsI2KBL7kY (Me [black and white] vs. Dynomite)

TheOgbot:

Watched the G&W one. Your biggest problem in that match was that you don't understand G&W's moves, the spacing or the timing. Watch PhantomX's videos against UTD Zac, they're kinda old but I think they're good at explaining the matchup.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ALJQjip1zNw vs GnW
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gMgMsTHyJn8 vs Snake


Croi:
I would start by being a little more patient you just kind of rushed in and get picked apart. You also need to remember that Luigi's aerials out prioritize Wario's. Fair will trade though. Be more aware of what you're opponent is doing and try to avoid them. Luigi shouldn't be able to bair you like that. I would try to lessen the amount of fsmash you were just totally whiffing them.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bOHREo5Ndms (vs Luigi)
 

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na i'm speaking about how does that support me in having another wario in my state? and for my videos is there any one that has a tv connector who i can send my videos to and they send them back to me throught yousend.com
 

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Posting this list yet again.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cHGEt31Mq2g (vs ROB)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C9x-xbe7xGM (vs G&W)(I have some trouble against G&W, personally)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sIx5pxFB52o (vs Luigi's Mansion)(It's legal in our local tournies. Been banning this stage ever since)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KeqStEGwEkI (vs Falco)(I know about the chaingrab Wario has on Falco, but I never remember to actually use it )
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K1AKvhGWQmM (vs Falco, Jungle Japes)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pSp265w2pBw (vs Kirby)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2webcsunm-M (vs Yoshi)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ChloXW5Si0U (vs Zamus)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yGWtvJRKG0U (vs Lucario)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xLoXQDR-OPc (vs Snake)(That first Bike was supposed to be a Chomp, btw)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mc1XXz4IEDk (vs Marth)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5lwfCEdPzYQ (vs Not-The-Best Ice Climbers)
 

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Posting this list yet again.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cHGEt31Mq2g (vs ROB)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C9x-xbe7xGM (vs G&W)(I have some trouble against G&W, personally)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sIx5pxFB52o (vs Luigi's Mansion)(It's legal in our local tournies. Been banning this stage ever since)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KeqStEGwEkI (vs Falco)(I know about the chaingrab Wario has on Falco, but I never remember to actually use it )
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K1AKvhGWQmM (vs Falco, Jungle Japes)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pSp265w2pBw (vs Kirby)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2webcsunm-M (vs Yoshi)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ChloXW5Si0U (vs Zamus)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yGWtvJRKG0U (vs Lucario)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xLoXQDR-OPc (vs Snake)(That first Bike was supposed to be a Chomp, btw)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mc1XXz4IEDk (vs Marth)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5lwfCEdPzYQ (vs Not-The-Best Ice Climbers)
I only watched the snake one but

only bite when it'll actually work. don't just bite randomly
stop airdodging into your opponent
play more carefully, especially at higher percents
learn to edgeguard snake
 

silentboxer1989

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Posting this list yet again.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cHGEt31Mq2g (vs ROB)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C9x-xbe7xGM (vs G&W)(I have some trouble against G&W, personally)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sIx5pxFB52o (vs Luigi's Mansion)(It's legal in our local tournies. Been banning this stage ever since)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KeqStEGwEkI (vs Falco)(I know about the chaingrab Wario has on Falco, but I never remember to actually use it )
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K1AKvhGWQmM (vs Falco, Jungle Japes)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pSp265w2pBw (vs Kirby)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2webcsunm-M (vs Yoshi)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ChloXW5Si0U (vs Zamus)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yGWtvJRKG0U (vs Lucario)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xLoXQDR-OPc (vs Snake)(That first Bike was supposed to be a Chomp, btw)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mc1XXz4IEDk (vs Marth)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5lwfCEdPzYQ (vs Not-The-Best Ice Climbers)
I looked at the G&W one. You could have used the bike when you were knocked off the stage
 

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I think this thread needs to be more organized maybe there should be some rules or guidelines to follow. Also if certain Wario's would be willing to critique videos like let's say 2-3 Wario's I Think that would make this thread a lot better however at it stands now it's just really sloppy.
 

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I think this thread needs to be more organized maybe there should be some rules or guidelines to follow. Also if certain Wario's would be willing to critique videos like let's say 2-3 Wario's I Think that would make this thread a lot better however at it stands now it's just really sloppy.
I agree
 

Masky

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Welcome to the critique my wario thread where we try to help each other improve.

Rules of the Thread:
1. Present two videos of yourself (tourney or casual). The first video will be of you winning and the second video should be of you losing so that we can see the contrast of when your doing good and when other factors come into your plans of winning.

2. Videos that are presented will be added to the original post and cateriagized and any comments will be posted under thier name so that they don't have to search the whole thread in search of who related help to them.

3. Before posting a comment on how to help your fellow Wario in his endeavor to become better. YOU MUST WATCH BOTH VIDEOS HE/SHE POSTED. This way you can get a accurate view of their play-style and to help them see where the holes in their game plan are.
Rules should be (IMO) (though a lot of them aren't exactly "rules" lol):
1. Present 1 or 2 videos of yourself, giving background as to when the videos were recorded, where, who is the opponent, etc (don't make this part a wall of text though lol). Tournament videos or MM videos are preferred but (serious) friendlies are acceptable. In the event of a full tournament set, an exception can be made and you can post the full set, though it would help if you point out which matches are the most important.
2. Matches must have recently taken place.
3. No videos against CPUs. No wifi videos.
4. Videos recorded with a capture card, dazzle, or other high-quality device are greatly preferred. No one wants to watch a shaky crappy quality match recorded in bad lighting with your camera/phone.
5. Videos should be against players who know the Wario matchup if possible.
6. It is preferred that videos be against S tier, A tier, or B tier characters because those are the matchups most people know well so we can give you better advice. Though if that's not possible, then since you have no alternative any character will do but you most likely won't get as good advice.
7. You must read your critiques.
8. You must ask for advice or feedback on a a specific aspect of your Wario in your post. For instance, something like "how can i work on my ground game" or "how do i approach this person" or "what am i doing wrong". Don't expect to just dump a bunch of random videos and expect people to tell you how to be good.

Masky would you be willing to critique other playerS?
What? I thought that's what I was doing already, lol
 

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Alright I'll consolidate the matches into a smaller amount of ones I did rather well in.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ALJQjip1zNw vs GnW
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gMgMsTHyJn8 vs Snake

I'll think of a few more later lol
Watched the G&W one. Your biggest problem in that match was that you don't understand G&W's moves, the spacing or the timing. Watch PhantomX's videos against UTD Zac, they're kinda old but I think they're good at explaining the matchup.

Watched the Snake one. That snake didn't really know what they were doing so I can't give any input.

People shouldn't be posting their "best matches." Post the matches where you lost/got wrecked but you don't understand why so that other people can explain it to you and then you'll be better lol
 

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bOHREo5Ndms (vs Luigi)

As you can see, I got absolutely destroyed. Aside from not baiting with the bite so often (That's a big problem of mine, I know), any suggestions on the Luigi match-up?

This match was played on the 29th of May, offline.
I would start by being a little more patient you just kind of rushed in and get picked apart. You also need to remember that Luigi's aerials out prioritize Wario's. Fair will trade though. Be more aware of what you're opponent is doing and try to avoid them. Luigi shouldn't be able to bair you like that. I would try to lessen the amount of fsmash you were just totally whiffing them.
 

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Your second link (ibls vs neo 3)

SDI the Fair.
You were doing an alright job if SDI ing the up tilt at low percent.
Try to SDI the Dair
If you know he is going to Dair. use up tilt. up tilt is a good move man.
Dtilt, i dont know why you were tying to punish with that.
Approach from the air more. (not short hops)
Use more Dairs. (ibls doesnt tend to roll when he has his shield out so if he is shielding and you are above him, bite dont dair)
2:47 DONT waste your full waft when you are down like 80%. You could have made it back just by using upB. And he was nowhere near you to try and punish you getting back to the ledge. The waft could have evened it out.
I have noticed in the past and even now Ibls spams up smash when his opponent is in killing percent. Bait and shield punish.
 

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Your second link (ibls vs neo 3)

SDI the Fair.
You were doing an alright job if SDI ing the up tilt at low percent.
Try to SDI the Dair
If you know he is going to Dair. use up tilt. up tilt is a good move man.
Dtilt, i dont know why you were tying to punish with that.
Approach from the air more. (not short hops)
Use more Dairs. (ibls doesnt tend to roll when he has his shield out so if he is shielding and you are above him, bite dont dair)
2:47 DONT waste your full waft when you are down like 80%. You could have made it back just by using upB. And he was nowhere near you to try and punish you getting back to the ledge. The waft could have evened it out.
I have noticed in the past and even now Ibls spams up smash when his opponent is in killing percent. Bait and shield punish.
Wow. I was really off that day.:(
 

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What I noticed from watching the first game:

Air-Dodge a lot more. Mix it up using Short Hops, Full Hops, and empty (meaning doing nothing at all) hops.

Use more Fair..

NEVER use down-smash, it's bad.

Learn the range of your moves..

and grab more
 

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What I noticed from watching the first game:

Air-Dodge a lot more. Mix it up using Short Hops, Full Hops, and empty (meaning doing nothing at all) hops.

Use more Fair..

NEVER use down-smash, it's bad.

Learn the range of your moves..

and grab more


NO! NONE of wario's moves are bad. You just have to know the appropriate time to use it. NEVER say or think that any of wario's moves are bad. Just because you don't use a move a whole lot, does NOT mean that it's a bad move.
 

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NO! NONE of wario's moves are bad. You just have to know the appropriate time to use it. NEVER say or think that any of wario's moves are bad. Just because you don't use a move a whole lot, does NOT mean that it's a bad move.
This is true dsmash like ***** spaces out of their side B. Anyways critique my Wario. pl0x.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uAAI6yk1HHA
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8PxwGf_vfvY
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GKQXYaADFTs

Sorry if the quality is poor I just uploaded them. These are like a month old though b4 my controller broke no johns =/. I have more vids but I don't want to break the rules that I posted...are wifi matches against the rules? Although they say friendlies I believe these are AiB ladder matches I know the pikachu one is but I can't remember if the Marth one is. I would like to be more consistent with my Wario punish better and not get randomly grabbed and space better.
 

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This is true dsmash like ***** spaces out of their side B. Anyways critique my Wario. pl0x.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uAAI6yk1HHA
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8PxwGf_vfvY
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GKQXYaADFTs

Sorry if the quality is poor I just uploaded them. These are like a month old though b4 my controller broke no johns =/. I have more vids but I don't want to break the rules that I posted...are wifi matches against the rules? Although they say friendlies I believe these are AiB ladder matches I know the pikachu one is but I can't remember if the Marth one is. I would like to be more consistent with my Wario punish better and not get randomly grabbed and space better.
Wifi friendlies disappoint me.. I don't understand why critique is necessary. it does not show your full potential.
Down smash is a huge-risk, medium-reward attack; you gotta admit it's not his best move.
Its not his best, but its far from unusable..
 

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Ok Og.

I watched your Video against Duo the 5th match.

I noticed you rushed too much on GnW last stock, I saw you spamming aerials and the GnW just brickwalled you and played carefully and you took 76% for free on a fresh stock.

You rolled 3 or 4 times to the left after a DThrow, be careful with this and try to learn the timing to tech it.

You gotta bait for GnWs bad moves more, like you did with his DTilt you baited it and FF Uair to punish, it was really nice.

Also don't charge your waft to then max, use it even if it's not KO'ing it renders and awesome percent. You full charcged 2 wafts? Am I Right?

If you land a Dair on lower percents you can follow with so many other moves to rack up more damage. You can Dair > Nair, Dair > Bite, Dair > Grab.

I noticed also that this GnW comes from above too much with Dair. You can airdodge through it and punish with a Dair or Uair after it. But this is MatchUp shenanigans the other tips I gave you are general tips.
 

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Guess i'll post these here then

Friendlies with Darkmusician(MK) : 6/23

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qDdtfj9IUb8
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZkmDgCe0EbQ

Things i know i need to work on:
1. Getting rid of my bite habit, or at least stop whiffing them XD

Questions:
How do I approach?

Is it ever a good idea to airdodge vs mk in the air?

When observing people to read their patterns, how intensely do you need to watch them? (one of my biggest personal problems is getting reads to land my wafts)


What am I doing wrong?

thx in advance :D
 
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