Copy Ability Balancing

Titanium

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#1
Hey,

So I don't know if this is a common thing with Kirby, something that's intended to be fixed in 3.6 or whatever, but I was playing as Sonic a few games ago against a Kirby and my opponent swallowed me, stealing my ability. I figured it was no biggie at the time, but when my opponent used his neutral-b it traveled much farther than Sonic's, about as long than 2.5 Sonic's. It also seemed like he didn't enter a special fall after he used the move when I was out of range. The best I can figure is Kirby's copy was never balanced when Sonic was updated in 3.5.

For recovery purposes, I know Kirby doesn't really need more help, but there he has it. Still, I'm curious if this is a recurring trait, that other neutral b's were never balanced after PM moved into 3.5. If you have any information, let me know below.
 

Shenanigan

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#2
If I remember correctly, when Kirby swallows certain characters, he gets the brawl version of their abilities instead of the PM version. It's actually relevant in a couple of matchups like Wario, where you can throw out a gigantic bite hitbox that has infinite duration and does like 25%.
 
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Titanium

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#3
Wow, that's actually super helpful. It makes sense why Wario was so high up on that thread tiering Kirby's copy abilities now...

Edit: I tested it out, you were mostly right. Kirby's is nothing like Wario's command grab in PM, but you can't hold it open indefinitely.
 
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benefluence

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#4
Editing Kirby's copy abilities is one of the hardest things logistically for the PMBR to do, and they've said before they won't change them unless there's a dire need to. Most of them are indeed still the vBrawl version.
 
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