SwiftBass
Smash Hero
a bit disappointed with this part and with the arguement honestly. Ive heard chops/pbnj say this about other falcos too. I will say this.....just cuz chops doesn't like it doesn't mean its wrong and sadly enough I am getting the feeling that thats whats being conveyed because the argument is flawed at a primary part of how this game is played.ex) zhu likes to shine nair as a pressure approach at lower percentages when sub-40 you can cc shine out of spanimal nairs. shine nair is a legitimate pressure option at higher percentages but at lower percentages that i see it get used at by zhu... he's asking to get cc shined.
following strict combo percentages with specific combos.
What convinces me that this is a bad way to go about analyzing a players choices is the fact that you are not taking into account situational affects. you cannot sit here and tell me that every time a spacy nairs another at sub-40 that they get CC'd shined ALWAYS. shield pressure varies by much more than you give it credit for especially if its applied relatively regularly during a match. You failed to take into account what the opponent might be doing to answer the shield pressure. you cannot sit there and tell me that EVERY spacy in their shield versus falco is holding down and/or reacts to a nair and CC's it. (given that the following options are viable due to the fact that perfect shield pressure/pillaring onyl exist in the realm of action replay) some options from the position mentioned are making attempts to buffer a roll or buffer a jump which would clearly not lead into a CC'd shine but more likely into the nair hitting them without it being CC'd
you illustrated a poor example imo and by reading your post about the topic i am making the inference that you believe chop's decisions during play to be more absolute and correct in choice in comparison to zhu. Can you explain by these standards how chops drops sets to dr. mario, samus, marth and bowser?(all players considered by the vast majority to be considerably less skilled than him?[specifially pine, MDZ and esam]). If he makes better choices and has better moveset application then how can he lose such matchups lopsided as the latter?
I think you're better than this sleepy and cannot help but think that the example you provided came from an outside source which obviously didn't take into consideration anything that the opponent might be doing. instead the example just assumed the opponent(of relatively high skill i suppose) always buckles down for a CC shine. This is beside my opinion on zhu/chops. you're example is flawed and you are coming off pretty vague which rly doesnt help your argument since you are from the south. I am really disappointed that you or whoever you talked to about this fell back on the spacy matchup. don't you think that illustrating a point about chop's falco on something other than the matchups that he is known for will help convey your point a bit better? we all know that he is one of the best in the US at the fox/falco, falco/falco matchup but what you mentioned(move choice etc. etc. ) should stretch a bit further than just those matchups as they are elements of the fundamental aspects of the game.
lastly.
"zhu likes" is very very very very unstable for an argument. you dunno what he likes(i mean unless he talked to you and said so). You've seen him play at bit thats all.
On a personal note:
everytime someone mentions a falco or the utterance of a falco not from the south is made.......south jumps all down their throat and gets mad defensive. same thing happened when eggm was playing falco and at the time dominating the tristate circuit single handedly only being dwarfed by the likes of mew2king and somtimes cactuar when he showed. We all know chops is talented, but I cant help but feel that the south just likes to hate on falcos that arent from their region just cuz they are different. Zhu's success recently is comparable to almost any smasher he is obviously doing something right. Why is south so critical of him(and when i south I mean PBnj/chops)? seems so unprovoked and elitist at times. Its like the south can't stand seeing another falco in the spotlight or something. good thing PP is from the south, cuz otherwise I'd bet money on him being hated on too.