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CJTHeroofTime

Smash Lord
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I just mean I don't understand wavebouncing in general. I don't understand how the Brawl physics and a character's move physics affect wavebouncing to produce crazy aerial movement.
oh right, its an anomaly in the programming, probably a small glitch they didnt bother to fix which had something to do with b reversals (which was intentional)
The physics behind wavebouncing is pretty simple, I believe. By reversing at a certain timing, when your character's direction is reversed, the momentum is reversed as well. This means if you're travelling forward and WB, you will turn around and the momentum will continue in the new 'forward' direction. (this as opposed to simple reversing, in which case you would continue traveling in the original direction with your character facing the reverse (so you're traveling backwards))

As far as why it sucks for some people and why is doesnt for others, it just depends on the physics of the special you're reversing. If the special naturally causes you to stop (ie game and watchs bucket, and i believe ness's pk fire actually slows him a little bit) then wavebouncing wont produce an incredibly dramatic effect, as you dont have any momentum to reverse/your momentum is slowed too much to notice. In the case of rob's gyro/laser/up-b, the move doesnt reduce robs momentum, so the result is more pronounced.


Then doooooiiiiiiiiiittttttttttttt.
I will probly around winter break, I just cant afford to get sucked into a show right now because Im whipping my lazy *** into shape right now (physically and academically) so I don't wanna distract myself.


Edit: ROB:M looks so broken I can't even take it. When can we expect some kind of release?
 

stingers

Smash Obsessed
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i watched you vs waffle on yoshis, i dont see how ROB is broken =/

ewww @ bair landing lag. that almost made me throw up. how could you do that to him =[

and what was the reason for the uair change?
 

JCaesar

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I'm not changing anything any time soon. The current ROB:M needs a lot more playtesting, and unfortunately I'm the only member of the backroom who uses him.

Lately I've been doing a lot better with ROB vs the people I regularly play with (especially Thunderhorse's Falco) than I do with any other character (except maybe Peach). I'd like to think it's because ROB has been my main in every iteration of smash I've focused on since the day Brawl was released and I'm just really good with him, but I can't ignore the possibility that it may be because ROB is a little too good himself. Maybe the guys I play with just haven't adjusted to it yet, but it's almost a joke how easily ROB can gimp spacies now. Then again, getting in on Falco is still an unbelievable chore, and I think Thunderhorse would **** me if he played a safer/campier Falco. But like I said, ROB:M needs a lot more testing in real gameplay situations.

As for bair, non-L-canceled landing lags were increased across the board to be more in line with Melee timings. It still autocancels the frame after the hitbox ends, which I believe is how it was in vBrawl.

Uair was reduced to 2 hits to fit better in the faster gameplay and higher gravity. It's actually one of the changes I've been shakiest on myself. I'm not really sure what to do with the move. I wouldn't be opposed to changing it to something entirely different if there were any solid ideas for it.
 

Sapphire Dragon

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Let go of the scars that define you.
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For ROB's uair, you could possibly do something with his eyebeams.

Hey guys, I made a ROB Skype chat, if you want to get in on it, add me on Skype or leave your name here, mine is ZombieSwarm71.
Skype doesn't like me and won't let me add contacts, I've had trouble installing it too. :(
You'll have to add me yourself, my Skype is SapphireRyu
 

stingers

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i have skype! but im never on. you can add me anyways (Stongertron)

@jcaes: i see. for his uair he should just extend his head really far. like hungry hungry hippos
i really dont think ROB looks all that good he still has no way to approach (he's far too slow and still has no aerial mobility). the side b thing helps but you know when people get used to it it won't work nearly as well. kind of like ROB in brawl lol. if anything he needs a buff to his ground speed or something but w/e just leave him imo
 

stingers

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no I was thinking like Sentinel Rocket Punch style

or his head will keep going up and up infinitely until you hit the ground
 

sneakytako

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I also have skype but am never on (Sam Smith)

EDIT: Rob will never be as awesome as Sentinel, unless he starts getting super armor for all his attacks lol.
 

Sapphire Dragon

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Let go of the scars that define you.
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And with continued trolling, that mutual respect forms into a friendship.

Regardless, there's somebody somewhere who you can borrow a comp from for 5 mins to d/l and install a hack. :p
 

Dajayman

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The library by my house prohibits downloads and USB usage, it's quite craptastic.

Why are you all trying to help me join Skype chat? Lololol, do you prefer my trolling over peace? :laugh:
 
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