Characters with the best moves?

[R3v]

So I'm not sure if this type of thread is allowed, but I thought it would be fun to start a discussion about each move and which character has the best one(like Kirby has the best Utilt etc)

To start off im terrible at this game and this is purely opinion

FTilt: Yoshi(for spikes)
DTilt: fox due to comboing
UpTilt:Kirby
Dash Atk:not sure maybe yoshi for comboing djcs/ftilts horizontally
Sidesmash:Kirby(incredible distance/speed) or pika
Downsmash:most are very similar
Upsmash: Fox/mario
FGrab:Ness
BackGrab: Pika(due to grab range)
Nair:too similar
Fair:links is powerful, but fox is comboable
Uair: Pika
Dair:Kirby
Bair:Kirby
Nuetral B:Yoshi(lol jk) Fox's laser spam is too good
UpB: Pika for strictly recovery purposes
DownB:Fox(shine spike is good) or Jiggs for KOs
Jab:Fox, pika(due to jab grab)
Edge Atk:?
Recovery Atk:?
Taunt:Luigi(does 1 dmg)

 

[Cobrevolution]

dtilt is unequivocally kirby
gonna give dsmash to mario/luigi
utilt i'm giving to pika. it's a bigger pain in the ass than kirby's.
kirby/pika have the best nair.

someone patch this game

 

[The Star King]

utilt i'm giving to pika. it's a bigger pain in the *** than kirby's.

cobr pls

 

[Olikus]

utilt i'm giving to pika. it's a bigger pain in the *** than kirby's.

cobr stahp

 

[Cobrevolution]

true ****.

 

[KeroKeroppi]

rob's right about pika's utilt being better than kirby's

but saying that pika has the best nair?

lol

 

[MrMarbles]

from a samus perspective pika utilt is probably worse than kirbys.

 

[Olikus]

but overall is kirbys utilt better.

 

[Herbert Von Karajan]

bull****

pikas is way better:

why?

take any character at 75%
let them run into a kirby uptilt
how many characters are basicly dead?
kirby basicly cant combo any character at that %, and none of them die automatically, so kirby aint killing anyone with that uptilt

if they run into a pika utilt
pika can combo into killing moves like nair, bair, and down b

kirbys utilt is good at low%, and only against heavys

Go look at the hitbox's again
pika's is a ****ing half circle, covering almost all of its body
kirby's is a quarter circle covering a little more than half of its body

pika's utilt is >>>>> kirby's utilt

Spoiler: my list

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Jab:
Ftilt:
Dtilt:
Utilt:

Fsmash: fast + angles (mario bros are good too)
Dsmash:
Usmash: fast out of sheild
Dash Atk: invincible head

Sheild:
Grab:

Nair:
Fair:
Uair:
Dair:
Bair:

Nspecial:
Uspecial:
Dspecial:

Edge Atk: /
Slow Edge Attack:

Taunt: doges lasers

this is not how i would build an optimal character with the existing moveset though

 

[Han Solo]

Pika's uptilt is better at higher percentages because it leads into finishes, but Kirby's uptilt combos at 0% which I feel is vastly more important.

 

[MrMarbles]

kirby's is also very hard to punish cuz there's very little ending lag. a missed pika utilt can be punished

 

[Herbert Von Karajan]

Pika's uptilt is better at higher percentages because it leads into finishes, but Kirby's uptilt combos at 0% which I feel is vastly more important.

pretty sure jumping onto a pika utilt also combos at 0% into grab

edit: just checked, it definitely does, tested on falcon

its only vastly more important to you because you main a heavy character.

 

[MrMarbles]

pretty sure jumping onto a pika utilt also combos at 0% into grab

edit: just checked, it definitely does, tested on falcon

its only vastly more important to you because you main a heavy character.

might work in practice mode but that very rarely happens in a real match. still i can agree that pika's utilt is arguable better against floatys

 

[Herbert Von Karajan]

i just spent a whole week watching nothing but pika mains and i can tell you it is not rare at all

boom mentioned that one of the best things that gerson does is utilting at exactly the right time

its at least a frame trap, i tested it on cpus not training mode

 

[MrMarbles]

i just spent a whole week watching nothing but pika mains and i can tell you it is not rare at all

boom mentioned that one of the best things that gerson does is utilting at exactly the right time

its at least a frame trap, i tested it on cpus not training mode

ill try it out

 

[Herbert Von Karajan]

ill try it out

at zero you really wanna grab instead of utilt, but spacing with utilt can work if they are hopping

 

[BananaBolts]

@ Herbert Von Karajan you forgot about the get-up attack.

 

[Herbert Von Karajan]

who even uses that move

 

[BananaBolts]

who even uses that move

level 9 computers use the get-up attack quite effectively

 

[FalconOwnage]

Edge Attack: ?

I've been working out

 

[Cedricwa]

best edge attack under 100% is link imo

 

[Kimimaru]

I think DK edge attack under 100% is the best since it's so quick. Plus if they tech in place it's a free grab.

 

[Cedricwa]

Links is super fast too. I just feel like if it misses there's more of an oppurtunity to punish DK than Link

 

[Combo Blaze]

but dat booty tho

 

[Cedricwa]

DK's twerk attack

 

[Deleted member]

Kirby's rock and sword attacks are ones that I use often, as the sword can do decent damage and the rock has high launching power

 

[MudkipUniverse]

This thread should be bumped

 

[Deleted member]

So I'm not sure if this type of thread is allowed, but I thought it would be fun to start a discussion about each move and which character has the best one(like Kirby has the best Utilt etc)

To start off im terrible at this game and this is purely opinion

FTilt: Yoshi(for spikes)
DTilt: fox due to comboing
UpTilt:Kirby
Dash Atk:not sure maybe yoshi for comboing djcs/ftilts horizontally
Sidesmash:Kirby(incredible distance/speed) or pika
Downsmash:most are very similar
Upsmash: Fox/mario
FGrab:Ness
BackGrab: Pika(due to grab range)
Nair:too similar
Fair:links is powerful, but fox is comboable
Uair: Pika
Dair:Kirby
Bair:Kirby
Nuetral B:Yoshi(lol jk) Fox's laser spam is too good
UpB: Pika for strictly recovery purposes
DownB:Fox(shine spike is good) or Jiggs for KOs
Jab:Fox, pika(due to jab grab)
Edge Atk:?
Recovery Atk:?
Taunt:Luigi(does 1 dmg)

omg, i've wondered why i never see you online anymore, my yoshi friend.

ps. you are definitely NOT terrible.

 

[MudkipUniverse]

oh and relevant post:

Jab: or
Ftilt:
Dtilt:
Utilt:
Dash Attack: No idea. Yoshi?
Fsmash: or
Dsmash:
Usmash:
Grab (overall):
Nair:
Fair:
Uair:
Dair:
Bair:
Neutral Special:
Up Special:
Down Special: or

 

[Ælude]

omg, i've wondered why i never see you online anymore, my yoshi friend.

Has it been... a couple years roughly?

 

[Deleted member]

Has it been... a couple years roughly?

are you the r3v? O.o