vesperview
Smash Hero
No it wouldn't.
Sidekick>>>>>>>>>>>>Rival
Nevermind, I thought you were saying take Falco out of the game.
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Characters who I think won't be playable in brawl. (All opinion based)
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Sidekick>>>>>>>>>>>>Rival
Nevermind, I thought you were saying take Falco out of the game.
Actually, if you watch the end of the video, its just a dark blue-greenish sonic, who appears to be black due to the lighting of the Castle S. Level.
Not a shadow costume.
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And I saw what appeared to be an alternate costume for Diddy (Dixie), but it turned out that It was diddy kongs trophy doing his taunt with a dixie kong trophy standing next to him. (That banana-man/alien thing was also in the screenshot which had me to believe that they were infact trophies.)
vesperview
Smash Hero
You guys have it all mixed up, the Wolf costume is the one in that picture and the "Dixie" costume is just a pink recolor of Diddy, Gimpyfish has said it multiple times.
wasn't the "Dixie" alt purple not pink? anyways nice list, except Dixie, she can have a unique moveset 
. She can have her hair moves, orange grenades, can use her guitar, and her canon shot from Mario Hoops as well as borrow some of Tiny's moves. From what I've read/heard Lucas uses some of Ness's moves 
and Ness has used some of Paula's moves, so after all she can have a unique moveset, it's just that it's hard to think of any because all you know of her is little to nothing.
. She can have her hair moves, orange grenades, can use her guitar, and her canon shot from Mario Hoops as well as borrow some of Tiny's moves. From what I've read/heard Lucas uses some of Ness's moves and Ness has used some of Paula's moves, so after all she can have a unique moveset, it's just that it's hard to think of any because all you know of her is little to nothing.
no he doesn't use it, as far as I've seen, but maybe him not using it can have her using it. Wait what instrument does Diddy Kong use in DK64?Well.. Yeah. Little to nothing.
Orange grenades?..
Her guitar was used during a completion of a level. (DKC 2)
You don't see Diddy jamming to his tunes via stereo. (WOULD HAVE BEEN AN AWESOME TAUNT SAKURAI D
A guitar. But does he use it in brawl? No. Why? Because that would turn out horribly.
They gave DK congo drums as his FINAL SMASH, and they are horrible. Dixie wouldn't be unique at all.
(Congro drums not being based off DK64, more so Donkey konga.)
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And I don't care much for the pokemon controversy. Lucario was in some pokemon movie that is relevant to the games.
Pokemon trainer is a great addition. They should be satisfied.
They gave DK congo drums as his FINAL SMASH, and they are horrible. Dixie wouldn't be unique at all.
(Congro drums not being based off DK64, more so Donkey konga.)
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And I don't care much for the pokemon controversy. Lucario was in some pokemon movie that is relevant to the games.
Pokemon trainer is a great addition. They should be satisfied.
She actually is unique already, the moves they have (diddy & dixie) are not really alike he can't do what she can, and she can't do what he can. It's not like Daisy and Peach, all Daisy does Peach can do...but with Diddy and Dixie, they both have their own details. If you are judging in appearance, Luigi has more to lose than Dixie.
he can't do what she can, and she can't do what he can. It's not like Daisy and Peach, all Daisy does Peach can do...but with Diddy and Dixie, they both have their own details. If you are judging in appearance, Luigi has more to lose than Dixie.Metalknux
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Tip: Don't post. This is a list of his opinions, which most likely won't change. Just ignore.
White_Lightning
Smash Journeyman
There is no Wolf Alt costume.
HappyBirthday
Smash Cadet
Falco doesn't doesn't mean much to me but i guess he could be changed since he is a veteran.
Also Dixie doesn't have a chance, you are correct there. Donkey kong isn't really popular enough for a 3rd character but if it gets one it would have to be K. Rool no one else.
Also Dixie doesn't have a chance, you are correct there. Donkey kong isn't really popular enough for a 3rd character but if it gets one it would have to be K. Rool no one else.
BalloonBoy
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Here's MY list that's out:
Falco(clone)
Ness(Lucas is replacing)
Captain Falcon(Ganondorf is taking over)
Pichu(clone)
Dr. Mario(.....do I have to repeat?)
Marth and Roy: (Ike)
Young Link: (Clone)
Shiek: (Just because...)
Luigi: (Ness and Falcon are out, the chances of Luigi being out is pretty high)
Jigglypuff: (It pains me to say this, but she's gone T_T)
Falco(clone)
Ness(Lucas is replacing)
Captain Falcon(Ganondorf is taking over)
Pichu(clone)
Dr. Mario(.....do I have to repeat?)
Marth and Roy: (Ike)
Young Link: (Clone)
Shiek: (Just because...)
Luigi: (Ness and Falcon are out, the chances of Luigi being out is pretty high)
Jigglypuff: (It pains me to say this, but she's gone T_T)
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Captain Falco...Luigi..JIGGLYPUFF!!!
BalloonBoy
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See, Ness is definitely out.
Captain Falcon has a CHANCE of being out. And remember, it IS opinion based
If Captain Falcon and Ness is out, then so is Luigi and most likely
Jigglypuff
Captain Falcon has a CHANCE of being out. And remember, it IS opinion based
If Captain Falcon and Ness is out, then so is Luigi and most likely
Jigglypuff
Darkpaladin of Chaos
Smash Lord
So what, you're suggesting Ganondorf will be cut too? Because if you are, then you're an idiot and your opinion needn't be shared with anyone else.
But even then, you wouldn't be as bad as BalloonBoy. Either he's joking or his IQ is smaller than his post count.
No, I didn't put ganondorf on there due to the fact that:
-He is actually a skilled swordsman, unique moveset possibility
-I also heard that they recieved the base of him.
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Though you are free to prove me wrong by telling me some possible movesets for Falco, decloning him. <_<;
-He is actually a skilled swordsman, unique moveset possibility
-I also heard that they recieved the base of him.
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Though you are free to prove me wrong by telling me some possible movesets for Falco, decloning him. <_<;
Metalknux
Smash Ace
You are extremely dumb. How does Ganondorf take over Captain Falcon? They're not even from the same series, and Ganondorf is getting a new moveset. So what if Falco was a clone, he can be decloned. And you don't even have any reasoning for Jiggs or Sheik to be out. You think Luigi's out, too? Do us all a favor and don't post, you're an idiot who obviously has no idea what the fuck is he's talking about.
Metalknux
Smash Ace
If that is directed at me, I honestly don't give a shit. I know VJ is not getting in, I just put him in my sig because I like the character.
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You have got to be kidding me...
There is no way Ganondorf would come back with Captain Falcon's moveset. When Ganondorf comes back he will have his own moveset, and Captain Falcon will return.
Nice logic with Sheik. I have to admit.
You honestly think that somebody like Ike (who plays WAY DIFFERENTLY from Marth and Roy) can replace them? Roy's probably out, yes. But you can't take out the face of Fire Emblem, Marth.
For Luigi; Congratulations, you threw together a bunch of baseless assumptions and made another assumption that has ABSOLUTELY NOTHING to do with the prior assumptions.
There's actually a good chance of Jigglypuff coming back.
Darkpaladin of Chaos
Smash Lord
Well he's been seen with a sniper rifle and a rocket launcher, I'm sure they can make him original. Special attacks are the challenge; anyone can make unique standard attacks for him. And I think Fox's moves were made up to begin with, so it's not hard to do.
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I really think you should explain yourself. With the exception of Knuckles, Lucario, and maybe Geno they all have a good chance of making it in. In fact Krystal and Ridley are almost for sure characters.
Well, with Ridley I really just have trouble wrapping my mind around him. He seems really clunky and awkward somehow as a playable character (even more than Bowser). However, that's just my opinion and of course it could prove to be wrong in the end. Also, I explicitly stated that Krystal may actually have a good chance and that she is someone who I just hope isn't in.
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I have trouble imagining him as well, but with Sakurai anything can happen. He implemented Charizard great, and he kind of has a similar structure.
Therefore there is no reason she should be added to the list.
Darkpaladin of Chaos
Smash Lord
Charizard says hi. Same body type, same style. Ridley has legs and arms, what's the problem? Why don't you use logic in your statements next time so that you don't look like a moron. And given that Ridley is one of the most requested characters out there (which Sakurai knows), even if he was awkward in any way (which he isn't), then Sakurai would have had plenty of time to make him good. Sorry but you fail.
Wow, very prickly aren't we? Apparently now I'm a moron because I have a different perspective than you. And by the way, their body types are not exactly the same, Charizard is much more compact looking to me. Again, this is an opinion so you should seriously calm down a bit. I'm sorry if other people having a different opinion makes you so angry.
Darkpaladin of Chaos
Smash Lord
It's not so much your opinion but your lack of logic. Why don't you tell me what exactly about Ridley is awkward? He seems no more or less awkward than Kirby or Yoshi or Ivysaur. Like I said, he walks on two legs and he has arms. I just can't understand why everyone says he's 'awkward'.
First, you'll notice I never attempted to define it logically. This topic is about opinions and not intended to be a point by point argument of every detail of why a character may or may not be in. I was simply saying that from the various games Ridley seems big and awkward with an absolutely ENORMOUS wing span compared to his body and also a gigantic tail which could probably wrap around him two or three times. Now, they could scale these things down I suppose and change Ridley significantly from what he has been in the Metroid games but I was just saying it's hard for me to view him as playable based on what I know of his previous character models.
Note: The original Ridley in the original Metroid for the NES might be reasonably proportioned but it seems VERY unlikely that they would use this model. If Ridley is in, it will almost certainly be the Prime series Ridley.
Note: The original Ridley in the original Metroid for the NES might be reasonably proportioned but it seems VERY unlikely that they would use this model. If Ridley is in, it will almost certainly be the Prime series Ridley.
Darkpaladin of Chaos
Smash Lord
I like the Meta Ridley form better, but I think they would use the Zero Mission design (below) because they did that with Samus. It's not 'certain' that he'd be in his Prime series form for that reason. In Zero Mission, his wings are much smaller, even compared to Meta Knight or Pit. His tail would also be no different than Mewtwo's.
Isn't Zero Mission basically a redo of the original? Just curious, that has nothing to do with the subject at hand. Seriously, the reason I usually don't get into these discussions is that it's all really irrelevant at the end of the day. Nothing any of us says here, no matter how logical/illogical is going to have any bearing on who is-isn't in Brawl. In less than two months we'll all know the whole roster and all of these debates will be rendered useless anyways. However, in the spirit of good will, I hope the best for you and all your character picks. I really don't have anything against Ridley at all, and again, I was simply stating my opinion.
Eh. I don't think i'll be adding Geno & Ridley to my list.
1. I'd get 500 rant posts
2. I say they both have an equal chance of being put in.
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If they wanted to add another third party, I think Geno would be it. Thats why I didn't add him. As for ridley, well, alot of people think he won't be in and alot of people think he will be in. When Brawls out and this topic is still up i'll be sure to bump it for a few laughs.
Lucario will probably be up there though. I could care less for some pokemon that was in his own movie.
1. I'd get 500 rant posts
2. I say they both have an equal chance of being put in.
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If they wanted to add another third party, I think Geno would be it. Thats why I didn't add him. As for ridley, well, alot of people think he won't be in and alot of people think he will be in. When Brawls out and this topic is still up i'll be sure to bump it for a few laughs.
Lucario will probably be up there though. I could care less for some pokemon that was in his own movie.
Rauzaruke
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I think #1 on my list would be Ridley. But before the flaming, hear me out.
Would he really not work as a playable character? Sure he is a fan favorite, the recognizable villain of the Metroid series, and a sought after character for Brawl, but have you ever looked at him in the Metroid games? He is just too freaking huge. Look at the size of the Battlefield stage for Brawl, then stick a huge arse Ridley in there. He would cover the entire stage, pretty much a GigaBowser the entire match. Fun for everyone, right?
Sure, you could argue that they shrunk Bowser and Charizard to fit, but Bowser's size has changed over the course of the Mario games, and both Charizard's and Bowser's genuine meaty-ness allows such a shrinking without proportion problems. Ridley's figure, however, is actually quite slender given his size. Teaching him the TM Minimize would only make him look like a tiny, angry velocilraptor with wings, which is completely far fetched from his actual character.
In the Metroid games, he is monstrously huge and can pick Samus up in ONE HAND and claw her to shreds, or crush her with a giant tail, or turn her into a BBQ chicken sandwitch his incinerating breath. If you shrink him, sure you have a playable fast Pterodactyl like creature in Brawl, but it would not represent what makes him Ridley in the first place. His size.
With the size issue he would be better suited for an assist trophy, an awesome assist trophy if I may add. I will, however, eat my words if Sakurai manages to implement him as a playable character in Brawl.
*holds up flame shield*
Would he really not work as a playable character? Sure he is a fan favorite, the recognizable villain of the Metroid series, and a sought after character for Brawl, but have you ever looked at him in the Metroid games? He is just too freaking huge. Look at the size of the Battlefield stage for Brawl, then stick a huge arse Ridley in there. He would cover the entire stage, pretty much a GigaBowser the entire match. Fun for everyone, right?
Sure, you could argue that they shrunk Bowser and Charizard to fit, but Bowser's size has changed over the course of the Mario games, and both Charizard's and Bowser's genuine meaty-ness allows such a shrinking without proportion problems. Ridley's figure, however, is actually quite slender given his size. Teaching him the TM Minimize would only make him look like a tiny, angry velocilraptor with wings, which is completely far fetched from his actual character.
In the Metroid games, he is monstrously huge and can pick Samus up in ONE HAND and claw her to shreds, or crush her with a giant tail, or turn her into a BBQ chicken sandwitch his incinerating breath. If you shrink him, sure you have a playable fast Pterodactyl like creature in Brawl, but it would not represent what makes him Ridley in the first place. His size.
With the size issue he would be better suited for an assist trophy, an awesome assist trophy if I may add. I will, however, eat my words if Sakurai manages to implement him as a playable character in Brawl.
*holds up flame shield*
Cinder
Smash Master
Size argument always fails, just so you know 
Rauzaruke
Smash Apprentice
Figured as much. But I had to try right? XPSize argument always fails, just so you know