Character Attributes Directory

[KuroganeHammer]

I'm making this thread so I can easily find where characters rate with air/walk/run/fall speed and weight. Basically this thread will house topics that deal with a characters fundamental attributes.

Character Weight Rankings by @ KuroganeHammer

Running & Walking Speed Rankings by @ KuroganeHammer

Air Speed Rankings by @Indigo Jeans

Fall & Fast Fall Speed Rankings by @ KuroganeHammer

Intangibility/Invincibility & Armor List by @Luigi player

Aerial Landing Lag Data by @A2ZOMG

Characters That Can Walljump, Cling & Crawl by @SonicZeroX

Counters, Reflects & Absorb Multipliers by @ KuroganeHammer

If you guys have any threads you think should be added, let me know!

 

[Signia]

Request: Minimum Fox Trot lengths and Perfect Pivot lengths.

"My Smash Corner" has already ranked pivot lengths using the squares on the left side of Omega Green Hill Zone to measure:

Perfect Pivot Lengths (in squares)

Falcon - 6

Little Mac, Luigi - 5.5

Sonic, Metakight, Fox, Greninja - 5

Lucina, Sheik, Pikachu, DHD, Dark Pit - 4.5

Mario, Yoshi, Diddy, ZSS, Pit, Shulk - 4

Marth, Zelda, DK, Palutena, Samus, Toon Link,
DDD, Falco, ROB, WFT - 3.5

Charizard, Peach, Lucario, Bowser, B.JR,
GAW, Ike, Ness, Olimar, Dr Mario, Pacman, Megaman - 3

Wario, Link, Rosalina, Robin, Ganon, Villager - 2.5

Jigglypuff - 2


It'd be nice to also have minimum fox trot lengths to get a handle on who would improve the most from the technique (shorter is better). I know Little Mac has both a short foxtrot and a long pivot slide, and good back-turned tilts so he would definitely improve the most, so he benefits the most by far, but who else...

 

[jahkzheng]

I know it's not super important or anything, but is there a jump height list for this game hiding anywhere? Was just curious. I know the game says it's Falco, Greninja, and Zamus for the top 3. Was wondering what the others might be. I imagine there's lots of characters with the same jump height. I'm also not sure how much jump height changes on the second jump or more.

 

[SwingRipper]

It would be SO cool if you added match ups to this list like the pokemon type chart With the characters lined up from both ends so there is a line of neutral match ups in the middle

 

[kenniky]

Requests:
height
crouch height

EDIT: Never mind

I am bad at reading

 

[Yikarur]

why are all data on that awkward kurogane page? you can't even sort the tables there

 

[KuroganeHammer]

why are all data on that awkward kurogane page? you can't even sort the tables there

idk i suppose the person who owns the thread likes it like that

 

[Masonomace]

I'm thinking of making a thread for jump height rankings for every character including any Customs that alter jump heights. Testing characters having more than 2 jumps will be a problem as I don't have an idea of how to test their heights but I have a custom stage in mind of going about ranking them.

Does a stage using a drop-through platform for the floor in order to test doublejump heights sound good? And would having platforms 1 grid unit stacking 27 platforms high from the ground sound good? I'm also taking into account for ledge-jump heights & I have that covered by making the 27 platforms overlap the ledge so that just pressing a jump button without any drifting movement has them landing on said platform.

Thoughts? I'd like to figure out how to make the ideal stage & know the best way.

 

[KuroganeHammer]

I have no idea. It would be easy to test normal jump height, but double jump is not quite so simple.

 

[Masonomace]

So far I thought of two ways to test doublejump heights using the custom stage I made on 1/4x (Hold L) speed:

1. Be on the platform's ground floor & hold before pressing . Next, tap once so that it shows the character ducking down to begin dropping through the platform & let go of . Then, hold or to perform doublejump to land on said platform above you
   
   
2. Get to the very end of either ledge so that the character is teetering. Next, hold / & tap once to make the character begin running off the ledge. Then, hold or to perform doublejump & land on said platform above you

It definitely won't be simple to test doublejump let alone triplejump / quadruplejump / quintuplejump / sextuplejump . . . . .but I can at least find out doublejumps

EDIT: I should mention that doing either #1 or #2, Falco will land on the 10th platform both ways. Comparing one Falco doing scenario #1 to the Falco doing scenario #2, both will simultaneously land & put up shield but the Falco doing scenario #1 needed two taps of because it takes longer to drop through the platform floor. Meanwhile the Falco doing scenario #2 only needed one tap of so I might just consider testing scenario #2 entirely.

 

[kenniky]

I ended up sniping Mace in making the jump height directory (which is pretty unfinished atm)

http://smashboards.com/threads/jump-height-rankings.412187/

 

[CURRY]

Jumpsquat data compilation?
I feel like there may have been a post on jumpsquat data in the past, maybe by Shaya... but Googling "jumpsquat data smash 4" isn't getting me anything.

 

[Dantarion]

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet...UqupTNx17RXq2ZxPLNk/pubhtml?gid=0&single=true
Who wants to help labeled this stuff!

 

[Dantarion]

So, now that I understand character attributes, I did a diff...and...whelp, lets get to labeling guys!

 

[san.]

So, now that I understand character attributes, I did a diff...and...whelp, lets get to labeling guys!

Seems like special characters were pushed down. I think Mewtwo is in Giga Bowser's spot.

Is it possible to have these two changes?

• Character name column is always visible. It's really difficult to keep track of which characters to compare for each column if you move too far to the right.
• Column/Attribute number. A lot of attributes are referenced as numbers and it would be nice to have them in the doc.

Thanks for your work!

 

[Dantarion]

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1iewi34QrCh7cvWM3YwyeM5UAUqupTNx17RXq2ZxPLNk/edit?usp=sharing

This is better!

 

[Yikarur]

How is the difference in physics between size and width from Mii's calculated?