chain grabs... what do?

[AngryPiratehat]

I have so much trouble fighting shiek because of her chain grab... how can i combat this?

 

[PsyRex]

The simplest way is don't get grabbed :D other than that, I get killed by it pretty hard as well.

 

[Sashimi]

1) If you don't want to get chaingrabbed, don't play Yoshi. It happens.

2) Don't get grabbed. This is easier said than done, and if you are new to Yoshi or Melee, you will probably get wrecked by bad Sheiks for a while. You need to combo Sheik harder than she can chaingrab you, and you need to learn how to play the neutral with Sheik. The biggest part of this is not making bad approaches. You'll get it with time. aMSa has plenty of sets vs Sheik and he does very well in the matchup, so you can watch what he does. There is also plenty of information on Smashboards if you look for it.

3) When Sheik does get a grab, mix up your DI and try different things. You won't get away for free, but you shouldn't let Sheik chaingrab you for free either.

 

[MrHazuki]

A minor trick that apparently gives Yoshi a slightly smaller frame disadvantage is to choose the higher port number (i.e. reverse port priority), so ideally you need to be P4.

 

[AngryPiratehat]

Thanks guys, I'll work on it!

 

[Pabmyster]

Idk, I see aMSa escape Sheik's CG all the time some how. It seems he Dj out of it, even at low percents. And it isn't like KK or M2K to drop a cg, esp. on a low tier, cus they know everything about the game. I think he just has amazing DI, and know when he can and can't get away

 

[AngryPiratehat]

Idk, I see aMSa escape Sheik's CG all the time some how. It seems he Dj out of it, even at low percents. And it isn't like KK or M2K to drop a cg, esp. on a low tier, cus they know everything about the game. I think he just has amazing DI, and know when he can and can't get away

SDI maybe?

 

[MrHazuki]

Grabs cannot be SDI'd (except Puff's fthrow).

 

[Pabmyster]

Grabs cannot be SDI'd (except Puff's fthrow).

And Kirby's u-throw.

 

[AngryPiratehat]

Ah, thanks for the info! I'll just put that on my TIL list!

 

[kofinater]

Idk, I see aMSa escape Sheik's CG all the time some how. It seems he Dj out of it, even at low percents. And it isn't like KK or M2K to drop a cg, esp. on a low tier, cus they know everything about the game. I think he just has amazing DI, and know when he can and can't get away

If you di slightly behind and up, most sheiks don't regrab. You actually have to wait a bit to CG yoshi and both m2k and KK were bad at the sheik CG. You watch aMSa vs japanese sheiks and they'll always go from 0 to 50. You can get out of it at 30ish by DI'ing behind but that leads to an upsmash, so you're around 50 and in a pretty disadvantages position, You can also just di in front till you get off stag, which also sucks but isnt too bad since yoshi armours a bunch of stuff at thtis %. Yoshi does have some decent shield pressure with nair and fair so just be mindful of where you are placing your aerials and don't get grabbed.

 

[dahuterschuter]

Well, as people have said, don't get grabbed, the best way to do this being insane practice of movement on all the stages to the point that you can just slide all over the stage up and down platforms making goofy Yoshi noises indefinitely without slipping up. I think fluid Yoshi movement is intimidation in itself since something about it just looks more, graceful than other characters, although weirdly enough I think the same thing about that level of Donkey Kong movement.

 

[yaaashua]

I have been annoyed with that for a while, the only thing you can do is to get a PAL version, where sheiks down throw have different angle and you can actually scape

 

[Dinowulf]

we would be in a better world if Yoshi's NTSC was actually pal