Can't we all just agree we don't know?

[Starphoenix]

Look we do not know whether Megaman is TRULY out or not, with Inafune as suprisingly happy as he was discussing Brawl I fail to believe Capcom or Nintendo DID NOT contact each other at one point about Megaman. Than again maybe he just slipped through the cracks.

People need to just calm down and wait and see, if Inafune is anything like his friend Sakurai, he can mindgame us as well. All the Anti-Megaman groups need to shut up and the Pro-Megaman group need to shut up, we all need to WAIT till Januray 24th and see if this was a mindgame or for real. Inafune neither confirmed nor denied the possibility of Megaman in Brawl, anyone who fails to see this needs to recheck it. He didn't change ANYTHING about Megaman's chances he just said,

"Well I haven't been contacted yet" did not confirm him.

"But there is still a few months left, maybe Nintendo will contact me and let him in!" did not deny him.

We are still at square one, nothing has changed just everything just got a little bit angrier. Nuff said.

 

[GoldenS1104]

Denial much?

 

[Banjodorf]

Denial much?

That, or he's stating a valid point.

Im not a megaman supporter by any stretch of the phrase, but he does have a point.

 

[New Folder]

but speculation runs these forums

 

[Banjodorf]

but speculatation runs these forums

Ah yes, where would we be without today's "Captain Falcon in SSE!!" thread?

 

[Starphoenix]

Not really, I am just sick of people acting like donkeys because they believe he is out when clearly anyone can see it was not a deconfirmation. But a smooth move at keeping it secretive, basically telling us nothing.

Besides, Samus is WAAAAY cooler than Megaman.

 

[GoldenS1104]

That, or he's stating a valid point.

Im not a megaman supporter by any stretch of the phrase, but he does have a point.

Not really, there's a month till the Japanese release. They're not just gunna be able to add a character in a month's time. Not to mention the Subspace story has already been developed and I'm sure all of the cut scenes have already been produced. They wouldn't just put him in without him being in the story. I think people need to stop kidding themselves.

 

[NDUDE]

Ah yes, where would we be without today's "Captain Falcon in SSE!!" thread?

...Playing SSBM?

Anyways, I've pretty much stopped speculating in general since I've grown tired of it. I'm just going to wait and see...

 

[GoldenS1104]

Not really, I am just sick of people acting like donkeys because they believe he is out when clearly anyone can see it was not a deconfirmation. But a smooth move at keeping it secretive, basically telling us nothing.

Besides, Samus is WAAAAY cooler than Megaman.

They may not have said he was out, but they said he wasn't in yet. That's enough of a deconfirmation. There's only a month left. He's not gunna be in. Not to mention Nintendo clearly hasn't shown interest.

 

[Starphoenix]

Ahh, but GoldenSun you seem to forget, companies and organizations can lie if neccessary; look at the Government. He still did not confirm anything new, he just skated across the issue, like Mike Huckabee.

 

[blayde_axel]

They may not have said he was out, but they said he wasn't in yet. That's enough of a deconfirmation. There's only a month left. He's not gunna be in. Not to mention Nintendo clearly hasn't shown interest.

Yeah, like he's going to say, yeah, he's in. They don't release secrets like that, you know.

 

[GoldenS1104]

Ahh, but GoldenSun you seem to forget, companies and organizations can lie if neccessary; look at the Government. He still did not confirm anything new, he just skated across the issue, like Mike Huckabee.

Techincally, he could be saying that Nintendo didn't ask because he asked Nintendo. But that's a bit of a stretch. Anything's possible, but it looks pretty grim, and i think you're just getting your hopes up for nothing if u think he's still got a good chance.

 

[Tobi-]

Not really, there's a month till the Japanese release. They're not just gunna be able to add a character in a month's time. Not to mention the Subspace story has already been developed and I'm sure all of the cut scenes have already been produced. They wouldn't just put him in without him being in the story. I think people need to stop kidding themselves.

You know, When Sakurai announces a character, they don't just start adding them at that point. In fact, the character was probably a month into development. So there being a month until it's release has nothing to do with it.

He is either in or out by this time. Again, Announcements do not mean they have just started working on them. It just means they are 100% in Brawl, and probably beta-testing them.
However, I'm not a Megaman Supporter, but I can't deny any character until we have 100% deconfirmation officially.

 

[Strongside]

Its foolish to think that the man who was talking in the podcast is the only person with authority in Capcom. Others could have easily been contacted. Also, was Sonic not said the same thing with "Not on the cards at the moment," and "We have not been contacted" just so they would not give it away.

When he was asked that, this man's options were....


A) Confirm him
B) No Comment
C) Not been contacted (Mindgame)

Seems he chose C

 

[harpuia190]

When in history has man "all agreed"?

 

[Starphoenix]

Yeah, ultimately with Sakurai you just have to be cautious, you never know whats going to happen...

It comes down to this, Megaman is in and all the nay-sayers are wrong and he is revealed to be in the game. Or, all the people who held onto hope gets their dreams crushed. One of the two, neither option has better odds it is 50/50. I am not going to get fixated into this debate, I will just wait and see.

 

[Banjodorf]

Yeah, like he's going to say, yeah, he's in. They don't release secrets like that, you know.

Another valid point, I've had enough experience with the government to know secrets are well kept from those the keepers dont want to tell.

This would be the same scenario.

jan 24th, we will know all.

 

[GoldenS1104]

Yeah, like he's going to say, yeah, he's in. They don't release secrets like that, you know.

If anything he'd just avoid the question, he wouldn't get that specific. Remember when some one asked Nintendo if sonic would be in and they said, "It's not in the cards right now."

 

[blayde_axel]

If anything he'd just avoid the question, he wouldn't get that specific. Remember when some one asked Nintendo if sonic would be in and they said, "It's not in the cards right now."

"No comment" would basically mean "HE'S IN!"

Thus, you make up a story avoiding the fact. Simple.

Then again, we'll all know on the 24th.

 

[GoldenS1104]

You know, When Sakurai announces a character, they don't just start adding them at that point. In fact, the character was probably a month into development. So there being a month until it's release has nothing to do with it.

He is either in or out by this time. Again, Announcements do not mean they have just started working on them. It just means they are 100% in Brawl, and probably beta-testing them.
However, I'm not a Megaman Supporter, but I can't deny any character until we have 100% deconfirmation officially.

That's exactly my point. They would have needed to start working on him by now, so if they still haven't decided to put him in they won't have time to put him in.

 

[Jumpinjahosafa]

ATTENTION

All speculation on Megaman is now considered DENIAL!

If you think Megaman is still in the game, you are in DENIAL!

Thank you and Goodbye.

 

[SU_Remo]

I agree with the OP. The letter definitely makes it sound like the Blue Bomber might not be in the game, but nobody knows for sure. There is so much about this game that several people on these boards are SO positive are true when it's hasn't been confirmed. I enjoy reading and discussing things about Brawl, but 95% of the topics are speculation and people shouldn't get so worked up over this stuff and just let the game come out.

 

[GoldenS1104]

"No comment" would basically mean "HE'S IN!"

Thus, you make up a story avoiding the fact. Simple.

Then again, we'll all know on the 24th.

The only possible way to twist his story so that Mega Man is in the game is that he asked Nintendo to put him in and that's why he is saying Nintendo didn't ask him. Either way, it seems like some of you are in denial. He's obviously not definitely out, I mean, anything could happen.

But still, for some of the Mega Man supporters to have this much confidence that he's in is just false optimism.

 

[Starphoenix]

Funfact: Did you know Nintendo worked on Sonics model BEFORE they got permission to use him in Brawl?

Funfact #2) Did you know when a beta-character is developed they also develop beta-game content in the case that they do add characters?

Funfact #3) Companies can use other company content in a beta-version of a game, they just can't publish it on the final product without rights?


Remember this before you make assumptions, it is still 50/50. Just wait till Jan 24th.

 

[LuiStrokes]

He's just mindgamin us megaman it's bigger than sonic, and sonic it's great.

 

[GoldenS1104]

Funfact: Did you know Nintendo worked on Sonics model BEFORE they got permission to use him in Brawl?

Funfact #2) Did you know when a beta-character is developed they also develop beta-game content in the case that they do add characters?

Funfact #3) Companies can use other company content in a beta-version of a game, they just can't publish it on the final product without rights?


Remember this before you make assumptions, it is still 50/50. Just wait till Jan 24th.

Regarding 1: Really? Proof? If true I find it interesting that they would risk waisting time.

Regarding 2: That seems like a potentially HUUUGE waste of time.

Regarding 3:Regardless of if they're alowed to are not (which they obviously are), isn't that a bit of a waste of time and resources?

Even if they were to do all of that, why wouldn't they ask him as soon as possible. I understand possibly making that stuff while they're still waiting for an answer, but why wouldn't they ask as soon as possible?

 

[Starphoenix]

Regarding 1: Really? Proof? If true I find it interesting that they would risk waisting time.

Regarding 2: That seems like a potentially HUUUGE waste of time.

Regarding 3:Regardless of if they're alowed to are not (which they obviously are), isn't that a bit of a waste of time and resources?

Even if they were to do all of that, why wouldn't they ask him as soon as possible. I understand possibly making that stuff while they're still waiting for an answer, but why wouldn't they ask as soon as possible?

1) That is the case with ALL characters, even third party!
2) It's not when it you have many people working on this and are trying to do the best you can
3) If they anticipated NOT being able to do that, they wouldn't do it now would they.

Look I can't make you open minded to the fact that you could be wrong, just as much as the Pro-Megaman people will not open their minds. People jump to too many conclusions without giving it some time, I mean we will oficially know about a few days after the 24th. So I say just be cool.

 

[GoldenS1104]

1) That is the case with ALL characters, even third party!
2) It's not when it you have many people working on this and are trying to do the best you can
3) If they anticipated NOT being able to do that, they wouldn't do it now would they.

Look I can't make you open minded to the fact that you could be wrong, just as much as the Pro-Megaman people will not open their minds. People jump to too many conclusions without giving it some time, I mean we will oficially know about a few days after the 24th. So I say just be cool.

Hey, I understand there's always the possibility, and I know I could be wrong, but to be so hopeful seems a bit foolish as you're just setting yourself up for disappointment.

 

[blayde_axel]

Hey, I understand there's always the possibility, and I know I could be wrong, but to be so hopeful seems a bit foolish as you're just setting yourself up for disappointment.

This is true. The only reason I always get upset is people that say "OMG, "X" Character's not in Brawl!" when they have as little of proof as the people who say they're in...

 

[bballstar23]

This is true. The only reason I always get upset is people that say "OMG, "X" Character's not in Brawl!" when they have as little of proof as the people who say they're in...

It's even worse when people say since, X character is not Brawl, then that must mean that Y character is in now instead.

 

[shadowyoshi2345]

If megaman wasn't going to be in it, he probably would've just said he's not in brawl, instead of beating around the bush

 

[GoldenS1104]

This is true. The only reason I always get upset is people that say "OMG, "X" Character's not in Brawl!" when they have as little of proof as the people who say they're in...

I don't think it's possible to say with 100% confidence that something won't be in Brawl. Whose to say they won't decide at the last minute that they wan't to add 100 more characters and delay the game another year. That's obviously not likely but anythings possible, just look at Duke Nukem...

I think the Dojo and the game itself are the only real proof of anything. If Mega Man is going to be in, they must have finished making him by now because there's no way they would be able to make him in a month's time (especially when you consider u need to leave time to produce the actual discs themselves and ship them).

 

[Starphoenix]

I'm not saying he will be in, I DON'T WANT HIM IN, Samus is enough for me. I just am saying this:

1) Inafune could have lied, plus if Megaman X6 was made without his knowledge this could have slipped by as well. If Megaman was in Brawl, they would HAVE to lie about it to keep Capcom from getting more of the 5000 messages a day saying, "is he in Brawl?"

2) Megaman is WAAAAYY to popular to "not have been contacted" like he said, that right there tells me something is up. Also his tone is a little sarcastic/joking for a statement with such serious applications as this. Also how he stated that Brawl is a few months away, but yet says to call him to work something out is also fishy, any game developer KNOWS that a minimum of three months is not NEARLY enought time to develop a character. And for him to say it is just fishy.

3) His statement is released at a time when Megaman is hugely popular, at the forefront of the lists and has been the most predicted character. This seems like a deliberate attempt to try and put the shock factor (if you will) back into Megaman.


Look I am a political analyst (yeah I know one of those boring men in suit and ties) I pick up on things like this, his statement did not make sense, conflicted in several points and the tone made it seem like it was a lie.

But oh well maybe he's not in too.

 

[00Elf]

The roster had to have been finalized before development on the game even began. It's not like Sakurai and his team are just adding characters as they go, that breeds imbalance.

 

[Starphoenix]

Oh well, what can you do. SOMEBODY is going to be right in the end, even though I do not care for Megaman, I hope he is in just for the Megafreaks sake.

 

[PITforREV]

If megaman wasn't going to be in it, he probably would've just said he's not in brawl, instead of beating around the bush

Well, he did say he wasn't in...he said up to this point i havent been ocntacted about him being in, we dont know when this quote was taken, but whenever it was, you can bet on the fact that megamn wasn't in at the time....this is clear.

 

[M.K]

I think another valid point to bring up is that WE DONT KNOW anything about what is happening over at Capcom. We have no idea, and no way of proving right/wrong, whether this guy is telling the truth, lying for the heck of it, or lying to cover something up.

It's like if you were holding $1,000,000 behind your back, and someone asked you what you were holding, and you said a carrot. They can't be sure without seeing the final result.

 

[Starphoenix]

Good analogy Meta-Kirby.


I am sick of this board though, people are just not open minded to anything, so I think I will take my leave.

 

[SaxyPlayah]

Im tired of those who try and guess whos in and whos out of the game before its even out.....i mean...its ok to discuss ideas and such...but going as far as looking for Captain Falcon in a Subspace Emissary video is just crossing the border....speculation (i hate that word soo much btw, lol, sounds nasty) runs among these boards....and im sure if there wasnt any speculation going on, over half of these accounts would be inactive....

I cant stop those who want to spoil the game for themselves and try to find any clues to how the specs of brawl will work....but ill just state my point that some of this seems ridiculous

So this post isnt complete spam, ill say that i think Inafune is just messing with us like sakurai....but im cool with that....just keeps us in wonder....just gonna have to wait for the game to come out....lol (i kind of personally dont care if megaman is in brawl or not....but i do think the third party slot should go to someone else more deserving to someone like *gulp* geno....)

 

[vonfinell]

When in history has man "all agreed"?

....Pax Romana? Unanimous Jury Decisions?

Anyway, I personally don't care whether Megaman makes it in or not, but I think that what Inafune said isn't necessarily a deconfirmation. It's certainly not a confirmation either, but if Megaman as in he wouldn't necessarily release it to the press without Sakurai's permissions.